Ted Wells' Train Wreck Press conference :D

raduray · May 12, 2015

reflexblue said:
I read on yahoo that wells said he had 'Direct Evidence' of bradys guilt in his press conference.... I wish someone asked him why didn't he use it in his report.

If he said that, it opens him up to discovery and, if untrue, defamation and all sorts of professional misconduct sanctions.

TheBostonStraggler · May 12, 2015

Bruins29 said:
I am not trying to single anyone out in particular but, can the instant gratification, ADD guys on here please shut up already. I mean last night it was Kraft the **** who diddnt hire a hit man only 2 hours after the punishment was read. Now we have people asking why Brady hasn't done a PC and proclaimed his innocence.

Everything has to be so "now" with some of you because you have no patience and obviously no idea on how you create strategy defending false accusations on a grand scale with a mob mentality public.

This. Actually 100 times this.
Virtually nothing is gained from trying to be the loudest public talker right now. Regardless of what small point can be won, or lost, Brady has been deemed guilty by an authority. Like it or not that is a trump card for the haters.
This is about impugning the charges and evidence, this is about impugning the authority, and finally this is about winning the damn protracted war. Nothing is more important than winning the war. Field Marshal Goodell and his Army Group Center has won hundreds if not thousands of miles of no mans land. But the battle that will win this war has nothing to do with no man's land (talking loudest), it has to do with the place with all the people and buildings (a tribute to the WWII historians).

Relax, have a drink, and stop (as Bruins29 said) thinking with your emotion and expecting action right now. The delight will be in the ultimate victory.

Charlotte Pats Fan · May 12, 2015

Danny said:
Here's what the piece of **** looks like for anyone that doesn't know:

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Looks like Freddy

raduray · May 12, 2015

RodneyScarrison said:
I still don't understand this. If Brady didn't have anything to hide (which I believe he didn't) and knew the text records would essentially exonerate him completely why didn't he just cooperate? He had a chance to clear his name and just refused to do so for what reason? I can't think of a logical reason to not to allow the text records to be examined unless there was incriminating stuff in there and knew he was better off just refusing completely.

Can anyone explain why? I'm sure I'm missing something here and would like to hear someone to elaborate on his motive to not allow the text printouts to be processed. That's just the one thing here that doesn't click with me.

1. He didn't have to and didn't want to, 2. Wells already had those texts from the Patriots employee phones.

Koma · May 12, 2015

AndyJohnson said:
You are kidding right?

Did you read what Wells did with the text messages in the Incognito case?
Did you read that he included texts from JJ in the report that had nothing to do with the case but made it look like he has the 50000 yard jersey that is supposed to be in the Pats HOF?
To think that his texts would be treated fairly is nuts.

JJ and JM traded texts that 'he' asked about you and 'he' said you must have stress getting it done.
JJ and JM said that 'he' was JJs friend because JMs sister was very ill and they were trying to figure out how to deal with the season tickets and JJs friend had dealt with something like that. JJs friend corroborated that story.
Wells concluded that all 3 were lying and the only credible explanation was that he was Brady and the stress was about taking air out of footballs.
Are you seriously telling me you would show any texts sent to anyone to someone with that agenda and lack of concern for the truth?
Yee stated that the agenda was apparent during the meeting that the phone records were requested.

So you tell me.
Hey, I am trying to hang you. Will you offer me all of your texts messages so I can put my interpretation on them, call you a liar and publish that as the reason you will be suspended?

Thank you for posting that explanation. I read an excerpt about that part of the report and, while Wells says there was a different explanation, he said he didn't accept it and didn't explain what it was.

One of the frustrating parts about this is that there could be a full accounting of the conversation, with the friend verifying it and proof of the sister's medical issues and some people will still deny it because of what Wells wrote.

Ring 6 · May 12, 2015

Koma said:
Thank you for posting that explanation. I read an excerpt about that part of the report and, while Wells says there was a different explanation, he said he didn't accept it and didn't explain what it was.

One of the frustrating parts about this is that there could be a full accounting of the conversation, with the friend verifying it and proof of the sister's medical issues and some people will still deny it because of what Wells wrote.

You just described what happened. Wells opinion is in the report, the people involved's explanation is in the footnotes.

Patstopia · May 12, 2015

Have to disagree with this, staying silent and letting the NFL dictate the conversation is a poor strategy! They really need to get out in front of it. Sitting ideally by while the conversation leaves you out is a sure way (as already seen) to lose public opinion.
Wells may be a ****head, but he is being seen as outraged by having to defend his report.
The only Patriot thing people see is fan support of the team. Has Tom even said anything? Has BB?

Bobsyouruncle · May 12, 2015

After reading that transcript the explanation given for deciding on the other gauge was pure gobblygook. He rambles for a while about nothing and concludes based on the numbers we decided it was most likely. Another words, since they're guilty, and the gauge Anderson used shows innocent it couldn't be right! Any gauge that says they're not guilty just proves how defective the gauge is!

What a crackpot.

raduray · May 12, 2015

TheFlyingWedge said:
The Wells report plastered text messages to the entire world that made McNally and Jastremski look like complete clowns even though they were probably just joking around. These two guys might be idiots, but they have been completely disgraced and their integrity completely shattered because they trusted Wells to give up their phones. Wells "assured" Brady that if he gave up his phone, everything would be safe - How did that work out for McNally and Jastremski who will be ridiculed for the rest of their lives?

Unfortunately, the team employees are not protected by the CBA whereas Brady is.

sieglo · May 12, 2015

Sfpat said:
I think he was smoking some of that green stuff that smells funny

Jets paraphernalia?

cmasspatsfan · May 12, 2015

How hard could it be to hire someone independent that both the league and the team agree on, I would think every team should have that right in the name of fairness.

raduray · May 12, 2015

Deus Irae said:
I think people are being unfair to Wells. He's obviously an accomplished man, and is likely quite brilliant. The problem seems to be more of an inability to translate that brilliance into sports culture, as we saw in the Martin case long before deflategate came along.

His report, though, is really shoddy work, I'll grant that. I give the benefit of the doubt, such as it is, that he was stretching to reach a conclusion instead of just getting the facts, because there are essentially no incriminating facts that can withstand even moderate scrutiny.

How could he say that he would have checked the GUILY box if the the standard had been beyond reasonable doubt?

nabwong · May 12, 2015

Patstopia said:
Have to disagree with this, staying silent and letting the NFL dictate the conversation is a poor strategy! They really need to get out in front of it. Sitting ideally by while the conversation leaves you out is a sure way (as already seen) to lose public opinion.
Wells may be a ****head, but he is being seen as outraged by having to defend his report.
The only Patriot thing people see is fan support of the team. Has Tom even said anything? Has BB?

Relax, the pats are trailing by 10 points in the 3rd quarter. There's still a quarter to go. I like our chances.

Silver Blue&Red · May 12, 2015

="RxJock1120, post: 4208596, member: 3705"]Remember how Wells suggests that the increase in call volume between Brady and the other equipment guy after the AFCCG is somehow indicative of Brady's guilt.....well it's not like this press conference is in any way indicative of Wells guilt!!![/QUOTE]
This is one of the things that has bothered me the most. Of course he's going to contact him after the game. Wouldn't you after someone is accusing your team of something. Find out what the hell's going on? Start your own investigation?. What a blatant reach for something! How can anyone believe this is some sort of evidence of guilt? I'm so angry over this. Not only because my team is going through this, but wherever I go I'm constantly confronting people. Because I'm wearing my colors of the team more than ever

Deus Irae · May 12, 2015

raduray said:
How could he say that he would have checked the GUILY box if the the standard had been beyond reasonable doubt?

By lying

Joker · May 12, 2015

Now we know why Putin never returned Krafty Bob's ring...his twin brother Roger told him to keep it...

Vladamir Goodellavitch...has a nice bloshevik ring to it, eh comrades?

RodneyScarrison · May 12, 2015

cmasspatsfan said:
How hard could it be to hire someone independent that both the league and the team agree on, I would think every team should have that right in the name of fairness.

That's like saying someone on trial should get to agree with the state on who the judge is

Deus Irae · May 12, 2015

RodneyScarrison said:
That's like saying someone on trial should get to agree with the state on who the judge is

It's how arbitration often works.

BradyFTW! · May 12, 2015

RodneyScarrison said:
That's like saying someone on trial should get to agree with the state on who the judge is

Sure, if you have no idea what you're talking about it probably does seem like that.

cmasspatsfan · May 12, 2015

raduray said:
If he said that, it opens him up to discovery and, if untrue, defamation and all sorts of professional misconduct sanctions.

Its on yahoo, I read some of it he's hanging his hat on the text from Brady saying you must be stressed, and some people wonder why Brady wouldn't turn his phone over. Looking forward to his sham report getting shredded.

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