Bruschi: I 'do not accept' Wells report

jeffro · May 8, 2015

Rob0729 said:
Bruschi brought up something I have said for a while. Why would Brady have a ball boy go into a bathroom and quickly deflate 12 balls without gauging them (and there is no way McNally could have deflate the balls and gauge them). By doing that, he risks getting too underinflated balls. It would be better to risk that the refs kept them at 12.5 PSI.

And take them out of a bag, line up and take air out of a dozen balls, put them back in the bag in 90 sec.

How much do they think is not explained by temperature? Would Brady really risk all this coming down for a small fraction of a PSI?

40yrpatsfan · May 8, 2015

even if McNally did deflate them, there's no evidence that Brady knew anything about it. It's just a complete assumption that he had anything to do with it, if it even happened at all.

Froob · May 8, 2015

Did we ever find out if McNally washed his hands?

patsinthesnow · May 8, 2015

Tedy tearing Woody apart, called him out numerous times. "You won two superbowls with this man and you don't respect him."

upstater1 · May 8, 2015

sevengables_2207 said:
It does not matter because there were no official measurements (of either team's set of 12 balls) taken before the game by Anderson, making it pure conjecture to determine how much of a drop actually occurred.

The report says that Anderson did indeed take measurements. 12.5 for the Patriots balls and 13.1 and 13.0 for the Colts.

upstater1 · May 8, 2015

Rob0729 said:
The way the worded it in the report was very misleading. It started out saying that Exponent said they could not determine in any way what caused the deflation by the data, but then based on their assumptions which included that they would use the logoed gauge readings at halftime (that had a far bigger discrepancies between the Pats and Colts' balls than the non-logoed gauge) because Walt Anderson almost positive that he used the logoed gauge before the game, but he could have used the non-logoed one and that Walt Anderson's recollection the PSI of each ball before the game is accurate (even though he cannot remember which gauge he used or whether he signed all the K Balls before the game) they "proved" that there was no way the Patriots balls could have deflated that much.

Aha, so not only were they uncertain, but they were absolutely convinced there was no way (or almost impossible) that the Patriots balls could have deflated in that fashion.

Even though Exponent's own Ideal Gas Law calculation showed that the Patriots balls would deflate in exactly the rate they did.

RobertWeathers · May 8, 2015

Trycked said:
Has Deion Sanders or Michael Irvin said anything about the Wells report? While I like Bruschi and all, I'm interested in a more impartial outsider athlete point of view.

Those two love TB12. I don't think you would get any impartial opinions from them.

BradyFTW! · May 8, 2015

upstater1 said:
The report says that Anderson did indeed take measurements. 12.5 for the Patriots balls and 13.1 and 13.0 for the Colts.

To the best of his recollection, which is proven multiple times throughout the report to be pretty shoddy.

sevengables_2207 · May 8, 2015

upstater1 said:
The report says that Anderson did indeed take measurements. 12.5 for the Patriots balls and 13.1 and 13.0 for the Colts.

Did not write them down. Anderson went by recollection which is scientifically worthless.

Jlaff · May 8, 2015

patsinthesnow said:
Tedy tearing Woody apart, called him out numerous times. "You won two superbowls with this man and you don't respect him."

Didn't hear that in the original link, do you have another one? Would love to see that.

patsinthesnow · May 8, 2015

Jlaff said:
Didn't hear that in the original link, do you have another one? Would love to see that.

I saw it on TV if I see a link on twitter I'll post it.

JackBauer · May 8, 2015

AndyJohnson said:
Bruschi shows he is a man and Kraft shows he is not.

How sad is it that a player who has been out of the league six years has more stones than the present owner when it comes to sticking up for the team and, more importantly, for the quarterback who is predominantly responsible for the team's unprecedented success in the past decade and a half?

luuked · May 8, 2015

upstater1 said:
The report says that Anderson did indeed take measurements. 12.5 for the Patriots balls and 13.1 and 13.0 for the Colts.

At the very least the Colts numbers are definitely not right as proven by how some of the Colts balls were still around 12.9 around halftime even though the temperature drop makes it impossible for them to essentially not lose any PSI.

Ring 6 · May 8, 2015

JackBauer said:
How sad is it that a player who has been out of the league six years has more stones than the present owner when it comes to sticking up for the team and, more importantly, for the quarterback who is predominantly responsible for the team's unprecedented success in the past decade and a half?

It's pathetic.
Kraft can choose Brady or Goodell, and he is choosing Goodell.

If Brady is suspended and Kraft doesn't declare war on Goodell, I will hope that Brady demands a trade and BB resigns. Kraft does not deserve either of them if he lets that happen.

luuked · May 8, 2015

upstater1 said:
The report says that Anderson did indeed take measurements. 12.5 for the Patriots balls and 13.1 and 13.0 for the Colts.

What the **** are you disagreeing with ? Physics ?

ViperGTS · May 8, 2015

JackBauer said:
How sad is it that a player who has been out of the league six years has more stones than the present owner when it comes to sticking up for the team and, more importantly, for the quarterback who is predominantly responsible for the team's unprecedented success in the past decade and a half?

Hell not just that. Massive financial success.

Wiluven · May 8, 2015

Here's the video of Bruschi vs Woody.

http://espn.go.com/boston/video/clip?id=12848278&ex_cid=espnapi_public

Woody's a ****ing douchebag.

upstater1 · May 8, 2015

luuked said:
What the **** are you disagreeing with ? Physics ?

I suggest you calm down, because I dont even know what you are talking about, but you are apparently frothing..

luuked · May 8, 2015

upstater1 said:
I suggest you calm down, because I dont even know what you are talking about, but you are apparently frothing..

You know exactly what I was talking about. Conveniently your disagree vote on how I said that given the measurements at halftime it is impossible that the Colts ball started out at 13.0-13.1 disappeared out of nowhere.

robbomango · May 8, 2015

Rob0729 said:
Bruschi brought up something I have said for a while. Why would Brady have a ball boy go into a bathroom and quickly deflate 12 balls without gauging them (and there is no way McNally could have deflate the balls and gauge them). By doing that, he risks getting too underinflated balls. It would be better to risk that the refs kept them at 12.5 PSI.

We are literally talking about a potential .2-.4 difference in air pressure, it's incomprehensible. There's nothing to suggest TB liked the balls at that range(12.0-12.3) and texts point out that they set them at 13psi as others pointed out.

Also, Brady went to the competition committee with Manning to have rules adjusted, this doesn't strike me as a person who skirts the rules but actively gets involved when he has a problem. Brady also mentioned going to the refs with the rules to get the balls at 12.5psi. These don't sound like the actions of a rule skirter and of course are never brought up.

I hate how these investigations are done in a vacuum without any point of reference to other teams or league practices.

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