Brady's response through Don Yee

You da man Don Yee!

@livinginthe past @Ivan I was referring to the suggestion that Kraft step down as owner of the franchise because of his failure to stick up for Brady....I'm also disappointed in Kraft, but to call for his resignation? Now that's extreme

TomPatriot said:

Why didn't the NFL just give the Patriots a warning not to use under-inflated balls so there wouldn't be an unfair DIS advantage in the Colts- Pats AFC Championship Game? That is essentially what Grigson was asking for. Instead, the NFL decided to run a badly designed trap play.

Click to expand...

I corrected your statement above

Chiuba E. Obele said:

@livinginthe past @Ivan I was referring to the suggestion that Kraft step down as owner of the franchise because of his failure to stick up for Brady....I'm also disappointed in Kraft, but to call for his resignation? Now that's extreme

Click to expand...

If Kraft does nothing else, this would be the second time that he's allowed either his coach or his quarterback to get railroaded with either no or half-assed support from him. So yes, I agree. It would be time for him to step down.

Chiuba E. Obele said:

Mike & Mike ‏@MikeAndMike 2h2 hours ago
“If you’re going to destroy the legacy of one of the greatest players ever, I need more than 'probably.” -@Espngreeny

Click to expand...

When Mike Greenberg is standing up for Brady then you know you f***ed up.

Ross12 said:

I also think this is a very clearly warning shot to the NFL by Brady, saying "Go ahead, make my day. Suspend me. Let's see where this rabbit hole goes."

Click to expand...

Agree.

Frankly, I think the league will chicken out and give Brady a penalty so small he won't appeal -- e.g., a cash penalty for the false statement about not knowing McNally. And then -- somewhat disappointingly to us -- Brady won't have sufficient motivation or perhaps even grounds to sue the league.

Chiuba E. Obele said:

@livinginthe past @Ivan I was referring to the suggestion that Kraft step down as owner of the franchise because of his failure to stick up for Brady....I'm also disappointed in Kraft, but to call for his resignation? Now that's extreme

Click to expand...

I don't think it is extreme at all.

Kraft, through prioritizing the league over the Patriots, has allowed the franchise and its fans to have its greatest achievements undermined by jealous, petty individuals.

Some may say that he has been 'weak'.

I disagree.

Kraft is a rich man because he knows which side his bread is buttered.

Sfpat said:

You need to delete the words "little to" from the above

Click to expand...

In fairness, not really. There's some evidence of a coverup, just not that Brady did anything wrong in the first place.

Chiuba E. Obele said:

Let me ask you something guys, would Brady benefit from taking a page from Pete Carroll, and sitting down to do an interview with someone from the news media (just one person)?

As great as this statement was, I still think he himself needs to tell his story, right from his own mouth, and no surrogates

Click to expand...

I lean to a yes. But right now the issue is to throw the league on the credibility defensive, rather than leaving them on offense smearing Brady. Once that stabilizes, Brady can address the substance.

Fencer said:

Agree.

Frankly, I think the league will chicken out and give Brady a penalty so small he won't appeal -- e.g., a cash penalty for the false statement about not knowing McNally. And then -- somewhat disappointingly to us -- Brady won't have sufficient motivation or perhaps even grounds to sue the league.

Click to expand...

That's the line of thinking I'm at right now. The league released the report and then sat back to garner public reaction while they decided on Brady's punishment. But, Brady's very valid rebuttal through Don Yee basically says to them "this report is a pile of slanted bull**** and you will see me in court when you suspend me." The NFL will then say "oh f***", remember all the cases they lost over Bountygate, and say "uhh, okay, well, maybe just a little tiny fine..." Brady very well may not be able to fight a little fine. Would love it if he tried anyway.

BradyManny said:

What was your take on the scientific analysis done by the league's consultants? Just curious.

Click to expand...

The firm they hired did a hatchet job, they are hired gun how defended the Tobacco industry among others, as defense witnesses, the methodology was fatally flawed.

Yee should just put out his notes of the whole Brady interview. Let's get it all out there.

KontradictioN said:

It's a powerful response.

Click to expand...

No it's not. It's a toothless rebuttal focusing on the relationship between Wells and the NFL instead of any facts that might support Brady's defense. And ....what the NFL could have done differently prior to the game is irrelevant to the findings of the report that "tampering" occurred. Sorry...I just don't buy into the "If we weren't warned about breaking rules in advance, then we shouldn't be punished for breaking the rules." That is a ridiculous defense.
My take: the league was content to ignore the pregame warnings by Indy.....but Indy pressed the issue once they obtained evidence. Indy forced their hand....much like Spygate. Both Indy and the NYJ forced the NFL into action...opening pandora's box.
Regardless of anyone's opinion on Wells, the reality is that Well's reports have supported action and punishment in the past and likely will in this case as well. The Brady camp has to do significantly more than shoot the messenger....and that is all Yee is offering right now.
And sorry to the faction that believes Brady can do no wrong, but Brady's refusal to support his verbal testimony with his electronic records essentially nullifies his "testimony." Sorry.....he has to live with his choices and he made his choice. When I learned Brady refused to provide his electronic info, my first reaction was that Brady was essentially pleading "No Contest". Willing to accept the consequences without admitting to anything.
IMHO

Hate to say this, because I know how we all feel misled, but I wonder if Sharks of Vegas did have a source who was involved enough to know the league was worried the scandal would turn on themselves. What has become clear is that Goodell isn't as dumb as people think when met with the need for self preservation, so he hired Wells to cover his ass, and pissed on us and told everyone he was this independent investigator, when we all should have seen it for the farce it was. More than likely SOV's source was involved enough to know there was panic, like in many work places, but not nearly involved enough to know that they were in full damage control mode for themselves. Kraft's demand for an apology might have exacerbated this, pushing Herr Goodell to not only cover his ass but to get even.

KontradictioN said:

If Kraft does nothing else, this would be the second time that he's allowed either his coach or his quarterback to get railroaded with either no or half-assed support from him. So yes, I agree. It would be time for him to step down.

Click to expand...

I don't agree with Kraft's response, but the fact is, Belichick and Brady are employees of Kraft's, and he's under no obligation to defend or agree with the actions of his employees, especially if he disagrees with them.

Ever think he might be trying to do what's in the best interest of the franchise?

The only situation I would ever call for Kraft's resignation is for mismanagement...but not for this

borg said:

No it's not. It's a toothless rebuttal focusing on the relationship between Wells and the NFL instead of any facts that might support Brady's defense. And ....what the NFL could have done differently prior to the game is irrelevant to the findings of the report that "tampering" occurred. Sorry...I just don't buy into the "If we weren't warned about breaking rules in advance, then we shouldn't be punished for breaking the rules." That is a ridiculous defense.
My take: the league was content to ignore the pregame warnings by Indy.....but Indy pressed the issue once they obtained evidence. Indy forced their hand....much like Spygate. Both Indy and the NYJ forced the NFL into action...opening pandora's box.
Regardless of anyone's opinion on Wells, the reality is that Well's reports have supported action and punishment in the past and likely will in this case as well. The Brady camp has to do significantly more than shoot the messenger....and that is all Yee is offering right now.
And sorry to the faction that believes Brady can do no wrong, but Brady's refusal to support his verbal testimony with his electronic records essentially nullifies his "testimony." Sorry.....he has to live with his choices and he made his choice. When I learned Brady refused to provide his electrons info, my first reaction was that Brady was essentially pleading "No Contest". Willing to accept the consequences without admitting to anything.
IMHO

Click to expand...

Never, ever, be on a jury. Pretty please.

Considering who runs the League Office, I feel like this image still applies to current issues.

Fencer said:

Agree.

Frankly, I think the league will chicken out and give Brady a penalty so small he won't appeal -- e.g., a cash penalty for the false statement about not knowing McNally. And then -- somewhat disappointingly to us -- Brady won't have sufficient motivation or perhaps even grounds to sue the league.

Click to expand...

Now I actually DO hope the NFL suspends Brady.

This farce of a report and the corrupt ratocracy running the league office need to be exposed.

borg said:

No it's not. It's a toothless rebuttal focusing on the relationship between Wells and the NFL instead of any facts that might support Brady's defense. And ....what the NFL could have done differently prior to the game is irrelevant to the findings of the report that "tampering" occurred. Sorry...I just don't buy into the "If we weren't warned about breaking rules in advance, then we shouldn't be punished for breaking the rules." That is a ridiculous defense.
My take: the league was content to ignore the pregame warnings by Indy.....but Indy pressed the issue once they obtained evidence. Indy forced their hand....much like Spygate. Both Indy and the NYJ forced the NFL into action...opening pandora's box.
Regardless of anyone's opinion on Wells, the reality is that Well's reports have supported action and punishment in the past and likely will in this case as well. The Brady camp has to do significantly more than shoot the messenger....and that is all Yee is offering right now.
And sorry to the faction that believes Brady can do no wrong, but Brady's refusal to support his verbal testimony with his electronic records essentially nullifies his "testimony." Sorry.....he has to live with his choices and he made his choice. When I learned Brady refused to provide his electrons info, my first reaction was that Brady was essentially pleading "No Contest". Willing to accept the consequences without admitting to anything.
IMHO

Click to expand...

LOL, is this a joke? Sorry, I have to ask before I give it a serious response.

It's gonna be a fun year, ladies and gents. Not only are our New England Patriots defending Super Bowl Champions, but this year it is truly NEP vs NFL, with the head honchos gunning for our QB. It will be a war on multiple fronts both on the field, in the media and maybe even in the courtroom.

And as always, OUR team will come out victorious. They may even go undefeated.

reflexblue said:

OOH i like that, not a bad idea. I think Bob is getting old, soft, and to willing to go along with remaining quite and compliant so he and the rest of the owners can rake in the $$$$$$$$$$$.

Click to expand...

Bob has a legacy that he wants to protect as well. He wants to be perceived as the guy who saved NEP football and is the Ben Franklin of the NFL.

If Bob's legacy was that of Al Davis's, he'd be devastated.