@Fill-Up-Rivers,
First thing: I asked you several questions in my reply to you. You seem to think that I should answer your questions, but that there is not reciprocal obligation. Why is that?
2nd thing: You do NOT know how to do the pressure / temperature calculations, do you?
I'm not asking because I don't know the answer. I'm asking to get you to face the answer. And to get you to think about the implications of that fact when you make bold, bald assertions that contradict the laws of physics.
@tom.kordis what is it you want to bet on exactly ???
I'm just saying the Brady and the 2 dudes are guilty...The 2 dudes lost their jobs and Brady will get a slap on the hand. But who knows, Goddell might lay down the Hammer like he did with the Saints.
The bold part is what we are betting on, exactly.
There is precisely zero doubt that nobody let any air out of those balls.
I don't give a flying fart what Wells says, or what the ex-Chair of Princeton's physics department, or what the fine fellows at Exponent labs say.
They ALL got it wrong.
The FACT that the League doesn't understand the trivially simple interaction between temperature & pressure in footballs is BLATANTLY obvious from the text of the report. It is laughable, if it didn't convict 3 innocent people.
The FACT that they got their calculations wrong is right there, in the numbers in their own report.
It is not possible that their conclusions are correct.
And, frankly, what I've read so far is simply incompetent.
And the truth about this, the fact that they screwed the pooch, WILL come out during the course of this football season, as soon as the weather cools off. (November or December). As soon as we get into cold weather games,
EVERY home team's footballs (&
some visiting team's balls) are going to deflate. To exactly the level that the Pats did.
Some visiting teams' footballs will deflate exactly as the Colts' did.
Everyone will run in circles, until someone (like me) points out the very simple variable that explains this simple mystery.
The explanation that the Good Princeton Professor & the folks at Exponent labs couldn't figure out.
So what they chose instead was an explanation that violates the laws of physics.
That was a REALLY crappy choice.
What will you say then, eh, Fill?
Is EVERYBODY cheating?
Will you then rescind your accusations against Tom Brady?
And who cares if people DO rescind their accusations, 9 friggin months too late? When his whole clusterfork should have been over & done with in 3 friggin' days.!
So, that's what we're betting on. I agree that, for the next month or so, the media & the NFL are going to HAMMER Brady, the ball boys & the Pats organization.
Some time next November or December (or sooner, if some of us can get the media to pay attention to competent testing), everything will reverse when the clowns realize that everyone's balls are "deflating".
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This is the 2nd time the Patriots have been caught cheating after all :-/
Spygate? A stupid technicality.
And you got the story COMPLETELY WRONG when you asserted that they taped the Jets' practice. Why are you so poor at getting your facts straight?
Deflategate? Nope.
Nobody cheated, and nobody got caught.
An incompetent report was released by a lawyer.
Are you shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, that this could happen??
It's sounds like you're really into science.....
I've been a mechanical engineer (a good one) for over 40 years.
When I heard about this fiasco, it took me one napkin, one pen & about 90 seconds to figure out what happened. With ZERO doubt.
There are approximately 2 million competent mechanical & chemical engineers in this country who could do the same calculation that I did. And do it correctly.
It appears that every single QUOTED TV personality & TV "science guy", including Neil deGrasse Tyson (PhD in physics & cosmology), Bill Nye, at least 3 PhDs in meteorology at the Weather Channel (who DO allegedly work with Pressure-temperature calculations) are not capable of getting the correct answer.
And, frankly, I do believe that there is one certain way of getting your calculation onto the national media stage: Do It WRONG. Which leads you to the oh-so-sensational conclusion that Brady's a liar & a cheat.
Similarly, I KNOW that there is one CERTAIN way to NOT get your calculation onto the national media stage: Do the Calculation CORRECTLY. Which leads to the not-particularly-sensational conclusion that "the temperature drop did it, not Mr. Golden Boy."
For the slimeballs in the media, what fun is that...??
The reason that I know this last point is that I lived it. I was in Phoenix for the 12 days before the Super Bowl, including Media day. I approached approximately 65 (±5) reporters, and asked them if they would like to know the answer to the biggest story of the day. 64 of them feigned "no interest". One listened, looked at the trivially simple calculation that PROVES that nobody tampered with the balls, and informed me that he couldn't write a story that used so many equations.
I asked several if it bothered them, as human beings, to be publicly accusing innocent people of lying & cheating. Most were offended by this question, but were not willing to spend 10 minutes to find out the truth about their actions. Too much trouble, don't you know.
A couple replied with remarkable, & pathetic, honesty that "No, it doesn't bother me in the slightest."
Will Science explain why the Patriots have unexplainably low amount of fumble's since the 2007 season ? We're talking winning the Lottery multiple times type stats.
No, statistics is NOT "science".
But GOOD statistics does disprove CRAPPY, INCOMPETENT statistics.
And the crappy incompetent statistics that you are quoting has already been disproven.
Also did you hear what kind of Brady memorabilia that equipment manager has ???? He claimed to have Brady's 50,000 passing yard Football ...Brady was trading him Game Day Schwagg in trade for him taking care of keeping the balls Psi at what Brady liked
Who gives a ****, cowboy?
Do you think that "conversations & Game Day Schwagg" change the Ideal Gas Laws?
I can assure you that they do not.
Nothing that I've posted here is limited to the Pats / Colts game. It doesn't change one iota depending on any actions by any people.
The pressure in the Pats balls was EXACTLY where it had to be, per the gas laws.
The pressure in the Colts' balls was EXACTLY where they had to be, according to the gas laws.
NOBODY gets to break the gas laws.
They were all out on the same field, in the same cold, rainy conditions. And they were there long enough to equilibrate to the same rain / air temperature.
And yet the pressures changes were different.
Which leads one to the obvious conclusion that there was something different about their starting condition.
What was it?
