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From the LA Times on Exponent who did most of the scientific studies for the Wells Report:

But Exponent's research has come under fire from critics, including engineers, attorneys and academics who say the company tends to deliver to clients the reports they need to mount a public defense.

"If I were Toyota, I wouldn't have picked somebody like Exponent to do analysis," said Stanton Glantz, a cardiologist at UC San Francisco who runs a database on the tobacco industry that contains thousands of pages of Exponent research arguing, among other things, that secondhand smoke does not cause cancer. "I would have picked a firm with more of a reputation of neutrality."

In the late 1980s, it was hired by Suzuki to conduct tests that showed that the Samurai sport utility vehicle wouldn't tip over during turns at 38 mph, disputing research published by Consumer Reports magazine. In Exponent's research, the Samurai successfully completed turns at 43 mph. It called the Consumer Reports test "stunt like."

About 10 years ago, Ford, General Motors Corp. and Chrysler hired Exponent to help with their defense in a slew of lawsuits filed by mechanics who alleged that asbestos in brakes caused them health problems. Exponent's findings upheld the automakers' argument that the brakes were not a hazard.

The firm was hired by Exxon to show that a double hull probably would not have prevented the Valdez disaster of 1989. It was also hired by NASA to help determine causes of the Challenger shuttle explosion, and by the Federal Emergency Management Agency to survey the damages to the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building after the Oklahoma City bombing.

Swiss Re, an insurer of the World Trade Center, hired Exponent after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks to argue its case that it should have to pay only half the $7 billion in claims sought on the grounds that the collapse of one tower would have compromised the entire complex even if the second tower had not fallen.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/18/business/la-fi-toyota-exponent18-2010feb18

So this is hired gun company hired by large companies to produce data that helps them win cases even if it flies in the face of real science.
 
Yea, no bias at all there...

What are you talking about? They were hired by the Tobacco industry to write a report about second hand smoke and they "proved" that second hand smoke doesn't cause cancer. Why would the Tobacco industry want us to think smoking doesn't cause cancer. Isn't that one of their biggest selling point?
 
Exponent isn't the issue. The had scientists from Columbia saying the same thing. They had their pick of experts and they were always going to choose the experts they wanted, and ignore those they didn't want to hear. It doesn't matter where they came from, they had options.
 
Too bad Kraft won't hire his own experts to debunk the data. Too late because he already said he'd lay down and take any punishment the league dished out....

BEND OVER TOM !!
 
I agree! Why should they listen to anyone from Harvard, MIT, BU, BC, CalTech etc.
 
What are you talking about? They were hired by the Tobacco industry to write a report about second hand smoke and they "proved" that second hand smoke doesn't cause cancer. Why would the Tobacco industry want us to think smoking doesn't cause cancer. Isn't that one of their biggest selling point?

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic, just forgot to add the /sarc tag.
 
How about just run the experiment over and over and over again.

The scientific reports in that report were by far the weakest part as this is something repeatable and provable.
 
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic, just forgot to add the /sarc tag.


I was being sarcastic. I knew what he meant. I was trying to make a joke. Must not have come out as I intended. Sorry @deter if you took it the same way as Gwedd.
 
I was being sarcastic. I knew what he meant. I was trying to make a joke. Must not have come out as I intended. Sorry @deter if you took it the same way as Gwedd.

Never mind. :)
 
Exponent isn't the issue. The had scientists from Columbia saying the same thing. They had their pick of experts and they were always going to choose the experts they wanted, and ignore those they didn't want to hear. It doesn't matter where they came from, they had options.

Columbia didn't agree at all. The one guy was joking off the cuff because he was a Jets fan. And no academic would put his reputation on the line with bad research.
 
The math is easy.

NFL said 72 degrees and 48 degrees
72 degrees = 295.372K
48 degrees = 282.039K
Difference is 13.333K or 4.514% drop
PSI at 12.5 is actually 27.2 (12.5 + 14.7 for atmosphere)
A 4.514% drop brings it to 25.9277
From 25.9277 – 14.7 = 11.27 PSI expected end result

Add into this a cold rain and it can be lower. Also add in that the NFL folks had variations of .45 PSI measuring the same ball at the same time.

8 of 11 balls were above 11.27. 1 was .07 less, 1 was .27 less and 1 was .37less. This is insignificant and well within the error expected based on the demonstrated inability of the NFL staff to conduct a proper reading. Did the ball start at 12.5 or 12.05 based on the reffs being off of one another by up to .45 PSI.
 
From the LA Times on Exponent who did most of the scientific studies for the Wells Report:


So this is hired gun company hired by large companies to produce data that helps them win cases even if it flies in the face of real science.

Nice find Rob.
 
remember that this was not a sting operation or anything else...........the NFL loves spending millions in order to enforce a 25K fine
 
Never mind. :)

No problem. I just didn't want to offend anyone because my sarcasm has been taken many ways other than intended.
 
remember that this was not a sting operation or anything else...........the NFL loves spending millions in order to enforce a 25K fine

that's a 25K team fine. it says nothing about what is going to happen to brady personally. brady is headed for the guillotine.
 
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