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What is the plan to change air pressure at away games then? Or do they just forfeit those?

Brady has talked about consistency with the balls this whole time. Why would he want flat balls half the time and normal balls the other half? That wouldn't make any sense. His numbers also don't back this up if your claim is that they give him a competitive advantage. The difference between his home and away numbers is a lot less than almost any other QB. So either it didn't happen, or it doesn't make a difference...
 
This was explained in the other thread on the Wells report:

Brady was pissed off after the 16 psi balls in the Jets game @ Foxboro, read the rule book, told Jastremski to set the psi at 12.5 henceforth, cue both men b & m-ing about doing more meticulous work with the game balls.
 
There is so much delusion... You guys will deny anything no matter how obvious it is if its badmouthing the patriots. Stop being so biased.

Wells only said it's probable because there is no concrete evidence so formally it is the right thing to say... but circumstantial evidence is enough to convict someone of wrong doing, and there's about 200 pages of circumstantial evidence here...

It is CLEAR from the texts that Brady was giving gifts to McNally.
He calls himself "the deflator" while saying he needs new kicks, new gifts.
Do you think the other assistant was giving McNally gifts without Brady's knowledge?
What about Brady's text messages to the other assistant asking him if hes okay and the assistant replying he's nervous? Why be nervous if you're innocent?

I love the Patriots and I love Brady, I really don't care if he bribed an assistant into changing pressure... but it's pretty obvious that Brady at least knew a bit about it.



Cool why don't you just leave and root for another instead of being a F'n troll.

Stop lying about 'loving' Brady, be a man and admit you are a troll. I will think of A**H**** like you when Brady is hoisting the Lombardi 50 trophy.
 
CNN calling Brady, cheater, indicted, liar
 
In particular, we do not believe there was anywrongdoing or knowledge of wrongdoing by
Patriots ownership, Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick or any other Patriots coach in the matters investigated. We also do not believe there was any wrongdoing or knowledge of wrongdoing by Patriots Head Equipment Manager Dave Schoenfeld.

Okay this reminds me of Tom Cruise saying to Jack Nicholson, "And there is no way they would ever disobey your orders. Because they would never disobey your orders."

What is Wells waiting for BB to text "DAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED!"
 
Honestly. Local media may well be worse than the national media.
Problem is that everyone is only reading the conclusions and not the report itself. No one would want to be convicted of anything based on that report
 
So McNally and/or Jastremski's phones were looked through for evidence in regards to deflating the balls, correct? And all they found was text messages between those two?

If they're so sure that Brady was conspiring with these two guys and nobody else - how come they didn't find any texts from Brady on 1 of their phones? They don't need to go through Brady's phone.
 
Given that McNally is a part-timer, and the two of them did help give the Pats a black eye, whether they intended to or not, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fired even without such a demand.
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If you want to know why they used "more probable than not," it's because that's the requirement for punishment.

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Which now means Troy Vincent is armed to punish Brady.
 
The report says that according to Exponent's analysis, the IND balls were underinflated by an amount consistent with physics, while the NE balls were not. One can certainly argue with Exponent's analysis, but I wouldn't expect media types to do so (how could they)? So it's reasonable for the media to not talk about the IND balls.

Per my math which I assure you is not wrong, 11.27 PSI is the potential drop based on temp decline alone. 8 of the 11 Patriots balls were above that and 1 was .07 less, 1 was .27 less and 1 was .37 less. This all being measured by NFL folks who never measured the same ball the same PSI at the same time. Amateur hour all around.
 
Don't you mean, "It's more probable than not that they can suck your popsicle?"

Given the evidence and the way they relied on text messages, I have my doubts whether Ted Wells and his legal team can suck your popsicle, or each other's, for that matter.

Man there is so much I want to say but it's not appropriate. :cool:
 
piss off troll.

I was going to games at Foxboro when every seat was a metal bleacher big guy. I've been a fan of this team for over 20 years. You dudes want to bend over backwards to deny the obvious, you go right ahead. You're just going to fuel this thing and make it worse on yourselves.
 
I really wish the Colts game was at home. There will be no kneel downs and there will be blood. 82-0.
 
The GOAT is innocent baby! They couldn't prove sh!t!! #PATSNATION BABY!!!!
 
I was going to games at Foxboro when every seat was a metal bleacher big guy. I've been a fan of this team for over 20 years. You dudes want to bend over backwards to deny the obvious, you go right ahead. You're just going to fuel this thing and make it worse on yourselves.

i thought i told you to piss off
 
Sadly I expect some other BS claim some time in the future of something else the Pats did and it will be immediately suspected to be true. The league has poisoned the NFL environment and the Pats, and no other team, will be constantly under extra scrutiny.

I fear it's going to suck being a Pats fan for a while, and our only hope is going to be if Bob Kraft grows a set and goes all Al Davis against the league.

The league is not your friend Bob, and if you expect to keep your team as a competitive entity and keep your fan base you had better stand up for them now!
 
So McNally and/or Jastremski's phones were looked through for evidence in regards to deflating the balls, correct? And all they found was text messages between those two?

If they're so sure that Brady was conspiring with these two guys and nobody else - how come they didn't find any texts from Brady on 1 of their phones? They don't need to go through Brady's phone.
they did find communication from Brady on Jastremski's phone, consisting of a few phone calls when the allegations first hit (which they obviously have no record of what was said) and a couple texts from Brady which say "You doing good?"
 
We're going to be hated by the rest of the NFL until the end of days even more than before, but honestly, who gives a f*ck? We're on the most sustained run of excellence the league will ever see, and 31 other teams would give both balls, deflated or no, to have Brady even after this. Brady kicked the edge of the rules and got caught. He's going to the HOF even with this and might even get a 5th ring...but it's pretty funny watching people around here try their a**es off to figure out what the definition of "is" is.
 
I know it won't be particularly liked here, but I ran across this in a comment thread elsewhere and it pretty much hits all my feelings on this

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"OK, after reading all the technical part of the report and bits of the others (especially the text message bit), I've come to a few conclusions.

It's clear that McNally probably broke the rules and was intentionally deflating balls in violation of the NFL procedures, on more than one occasion. Jastremski was also apparently in the know, and may even have been the instigator.

It's not clear that McNally or Jastremski intended to deflate the balls to below the 12.5 psi spec. The relatively damning text messages indicate that balls were sometimes inflated to over the desired spec of 12.5 psi, and possibly to be out of spec on the high side, so their intent, or their "job", may have been to make sure nothing was overinflated, rather than to intententionally under-inflate.

The physics analysis pretty clearly indicates that thermodynamic effects account for underinflation of some of the balls, and for all but approximately 0.1 - 0.4 psi of underinflation for the other balls. McNally may have just gone through and stuck the needle in a few of the balls that felt harder, and dropped a few to something like 12.2 psi.

It's clear that Brady was, in some sense, "generally aware" of what is going on. But it's not clear that he actually did anything technically wrong, and certainly there is no evidence that he actually ordered the deflation.

He was providing autographs or similar kickbacks to Jastremski and McNally. However, that in and of itself is not really that damning. These two were, respectively, the guy who inflated the balls and the guy who was supposed to make sure that the refs properly re-inflated to the correct level. Since he's picky about his ball inflation level, giving the autographs to them is likely akin to me being nice to my admin who plans all my travel, so that I don't end up with 3-stop flights and stays in a Motel 6. Similarly, knowing how much of a perfectionist Brady is and how he will get really angry at people, I'm sure anytime a ball in a game felt too hard, he would light into Jastremski and/or McNally for it, whether it was their fault or not.

Given all that, it's likely that Brady asked them to make sure the balls were "soft", that is, inflated to at least the low end of the spec. There is no evidence that he deliberately asked them to deflate them, but I don't ask my admin her secret tricks to getting me the awesome flights that don't show up on Orbitz. There's also no evidence that he indicated to them that the balls should be illegally out of spec, i.e. below 12.5 psi, but he certainly wasn't checking them with pressure gauge, and if they were extra soft, I don't think he would have complained. Just like I don't complain if I find myself booked in a hotel that's above per diem.

So, long and short, it is probable that part-time Patriots employees, being pressured by Tom Brady to make sure the balls weren't too hard, violated game-day procedures and sometimes let some air out of balls.

It is probable that Brady knew they were going "above and beyond" to keep the balls from being too hard, but impossible to prove (unless McNally or Jastremski comes forward and says that they did it and that Brady was aware of it).

It is possible that their intent was to reduce the pressure below 12.5 psi, but also possible that they were merely trying to make sure the balls were at 12.5 psi, i.e. at the low end of the spec. Not enough evidence one way or another.

It is doubtful that Brady directly instructed them to specifically deflate the balls to be out of spec. So his claim that he never intentionally tried to break the rules could be technically true, technically.

It is doubtful that the balls used in the AFC CG were significantly out of spec at kickoff--probably less than half a psi.

It is certain that this had no effect on the outcome of the game."
 
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