The Published Wells Report.

I apologize if this was mentioned, but I am unable to read all 43 pages of this thread.
What's the likelihood that McNally and the other attendant acted alone in an attempt to appease Tom and earn more autographed gear to sell?

Grizzafted said:

unbelievable the lengths some of you will go to deny the obvious.

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Perhaps we just don't agree with that obviously false statement. Given that the investigator didn't agree with it either, perhaps we can be forgiven.

Waiting for the $25,000.00 fine so that I can make a t-shirt to troll all of the haters.

Jeff Howe is the only New England reporter with a backbone. Kudos Jeff.

patriot1136 said:

I apologize if this was mentioned, but I am unable to read all 43 pages of this thread.
What's the likelihood that McNally and the other attendant acted alone in an attempt to appease Tom and earn more autographed gear to sell?

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Not likely at all

ashley1992 said:

The level of evidence is definitely stronger than I think most anticipated. Now I guess it's a wait and see to hear what penalties the NFL lays down against Tom and the Pats. Let's hope is just a fine but I have a feeling it's going to be more than that.

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I'd like to pretend that Goodell could simply ignore the public outcry, but I don't see how that's possible in this situation. If the reports' findings are "good enough" to drag the team's name along with Brady's reputation through the mud, then their probably good enough to justify a suspension.

If Goodell simply hands down a fine, the pitchforks will be out all across the country.

supafly said:

Yes, I'm quite aware of the fraud that is SoV. The issue is that yesterday, people were still treating his opinion as gospel. I just found it ironic that he's changed stances yet again, and now is predicting a suspension. Unfortunately, I have concerns that he may be right this time around. Let's hope not.

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The most unfortunate part of this that it is about freaking footballs in a game that was a blowout. Now because a team couldn't bear the embarassment our team and QB are again tarnished by the public opinion over footballs

MEH .............

Sitting this one out ...............

I don't mean to be rude or dismissive, but details about scientific findings, true meanings of text messages, who said what to whom, etc. is all meaningless in the sense that there is now, and forever, an overwhelming public perception that everything accomplished since 2001 is illegitimate. That's ridiculously unfair and untrue, but it is what it is. It was all so unnecessary.

We waited months for this ??? The wells report does not say one way or another anything. It' s wishy ,washy at best, what a joke this is !! And once again the backlash starts....OMG !

supafly said:

I'd like to pretend that Goodell could simply ignore the public outcry, but I don't see how that's possible in this situation. If the reports' findings are "good enough" to drag the team's name along with Brady's reputation through the mud, then their probably good enough to justify a suspension.

If Goodell simply hands down a fine, the pitchforks will be out all across the country.

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Goodell has handed the decision on punishment to Troy Vincent.

ArchAngel007 said:

The most unfortunate part of this that it is about freaking footballs in a game that was a blowout. Now because a team couldn't bear the embarassment our team and QB are again tarnished by the public opinion over footballs

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I agree but see it as more than that. The Patriots let themselves get into this situation knowing the incredible scrutiny they are always under. Again Im disappointed as a fan of them. While I think "probable" is unfair I also think someone did deliberately deflate the balls and im not sure who was involved.

rlcarr said:

I haven't gotten to Exponent's appendix yet to see the full report from the engineering company, but the text of the report says Exponent took that into account in their calculations. You can argue about how well/correctly did so, but they knew about this issue and knew they had to adjust for it.

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What happened to Columbia? They didn't toe the party line after a few tongue in cheek "gotcha" texts turned up? This whole thing is a complete sham. Pathetic.

Grizzafted said:

unbelievable the lengths some of you will go to deny the obvious.

brady lied, he deflated footballs, probably for years, and he's going to get suspended a few games. my guess is 4.

f* it, it happened. it's annoying that he didn't come right out and admit it when the story broke, but the guy has 4 rings, millions of dollars, and a supermodel wife. he will be fine, and so will all of us. deal with the burn and move on.

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piss off troll.

Dr Pain said:

No the game was at the Jets on 10/16. This is the day after and the game balls were 16PSI. No wonder Tom was pissed

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That's what I said.

Deus Irae said:

I'm actually disappointed with how little evidence there actually seems to be.

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From what i heard and read, no evidence against Belichick and Kraft but the text messages between McNally and Jastremski clearly implicate that they knew Brady and were acting on his behalf. Doesn't look good that Brady refused to cooperate with the investigation either.
The USA Today also reported that "The report also details scientific evidence supporting a conclusion the balls were deliberately deflated".
Keeping my fingers crossed!!!!!!!

For those of you talking about the evidence, one way or another, Jeff Howe sums up the entirety of the report:

Mike Auger ‏@mauger345

@jeffphowe From reading the "deflator" and "haven't gone to ESPN...Yet" quotes, isn't it completely obvious he is joking in those texts?

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Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe


Ted Wells simply decided he didn't want to believe McNally and Jastremski with those explanations

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ashley1992 said:

"The report also details scientific evidence supporting a conclusion the balls were deliberately deflated".

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A part of that so called scientific evidence also said a guy can deflate 12 balls in 1:40 but yet 2 refs couldn't measure 23 balls in 12-15 minutes.

Gronk's response:

https://vine.co/v/eZUhquu19Oa

ashley1992 said:

From what i heard and read, no evidence against Belichick and Kraft but the text messages between McNally and Jastremski clearly implicate that they knew Brady and were acting on his behalf. Doesn't look good that Brady refused to cooperate with the investigation either.
The USA Today also reported that "The report also details scientific evidence supporting a conclusion the balls were deliberately deflated".
Keeping my fingers crossed!!!!!!!

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You're overselling the text messages, and I'd never give the investigation my phone, either.

Where are the videos of other bathroom stops? How can one explain the 16 psi balls?

Questions like that needed to be dealt with through the use of actual evidence.