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Brady will not get help from NFLPA because he's left money on the table with the Pats. They are probably in on this scam anyway.
"On behalf of all players, it is our responsibility to protect the rights in the collective bargaining agreement"

That's part of what the NFLPA said when fighting for Hernandez's money. I think Brady will be just fine.
 
FWIW, the investigators say that Anderson told them two balls measured below 12.5 PSI and that Anderson had another ref inflate them over 12.5 PSI, give them back to Anderson, and then Anderson inserted the gauge and used the relief valve on the gauge to bring them down to 12.5 PSI (see page 52 of the report).
I would be willing to believe that most of that didn't happen, and they were really just below 12.5 PSI the whole time but he said he reinflated them to save face.
 
I don't know , man.....this is troubling. I don't feel good about Brady regarding this. I'm a Pats fan first - not a Patriots apologist.

I don't like the flurry of activity of Brady blowing up the phone of the handlers. Sure, if every text message read something like "What the eff?" or "Hey Joe, what is all this nonsense about?" I would feel differently. But when the text messages say stuff like "We all good?" I smell conspiracy.

I think Brady knew more than he said he did. That makes me pretty pissed off. It doesn't matter if the weather caused deflation, a rogue ball handler did it, even the Colts - but when you step up and say you don't know a thing about it at all, and then evidence says otherwise, you blew it, Jack.

I am particularly upset for my daughter. She is 11, loves the Patriots, and will be crushed if this turns out to be true.

DAMN!!!!!!
 
I just did a simple statistical analysis to see if there was a significance difference between the IND and the NE balls, after adjusting for the fact that there were measurements from both refs and that the Pats balls started out .5 PSI less. The Pats balls were statistically significantly under-inflated .

I am not saying that this proves that they cheated; there are many explanations for this. All I am saying that this result is unlikely due to RANDOM error. I.e. there was something systematic going on.

If the Colts kept their balls warmer on the sideline, that would explain the difference.
 
Hey Tom stupid move not to show for the President's congratulations meeting. Now shut your mouth and have the best year ever of your professional football career, nothing else matters even if you are not guilty. I love you but can't defend you, not now. It's in your hands this must be your best season or you are done in the media.

37/50
328 yards
4 TD
101.1 QB Rating
SB MVP

Properly inflated and closely guarded footballs.

Idiot.
 
More probable than not that this sucks
 
Good point.
Apparently the only footballs that have to pass extremely tight specifics are Patriot footballs. Who gives a crap about the other 31 teams. That's how that report reads to me.
 
You can actually view the texts through the context of McNally being the guy who fixes the balls when the refs f*** up. For instance, they had them at 16 PSI that one game. He is the "deflator" potentially because he deflates them to get them back to proper levels... Yes this is still technically not allowed but he would simply be doing the ref's job after they didn't, not cheating.

If McNally was going to the bathroom and deflating balls every week, don't you think Wells would've included that in their report?

Amazing what they managed to leave out of this thing. Still wondering if Columbia gave them an answer they didn't want to hear and they went elsewhere because of it.
 
Guys, who gives a F.

NFL paid for the report it wanted, no one will question it because they want this to be true .

We know our guy, greatest of all time.

Who gives a fcuk what the equivalent of this guy thinks-->
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At least the SB itself was clean.

Give Kensil some time to present the "evidence" to Wells...then Wells can "maybe" strip the Patriots of all their previous championships because "perhaps" the camera guy and these equipment guys were "more probably than not" in on fixing EVERYTHING from the start. Start of what? "In all likelihood" whatever starting point Ted Wells is told to use by Kensil.

See? How can anyone not see it's all "independent" investigation?
 
So how long do you think the league will take before bending the Pats over and sticking a needle in them? Before minicamp? Before Training camp? Start if the season? Or right before the Jets game!:confused:
 
"Brady said he didn't know McNally, Brady is a liar! Also, Brady never gave McNally Uggs for Christmas, which made McNally mad."

Maybe he didn't give McNally Uggs because... he didn't really know him...

I'm thinking this too. In all the texts, all the Brady talk goes through Jastremski. McNally asks him to get tickets from Brady, merch from Brady, etc etc and clearly Brady didn't give him uggs/etc. That to me supports Brady not knowing who McNally is. It's totally plausible that Brady knows Jastremski and McNally works under him. I work in a small chain and I report to my Bosses who talk with the owner/upper management. I don't know any of them personally and I honestly don't think any of them know my name, even though we have met plenty of times.

And with the comments of the 16psi balls, that to supports that the context of the prior texts (needle, deflator, etc) was likely about managing the balls BEFORE giving them to the refs, not altering them after. It at least sheds more than adequate reasonable doubt.
 
FYI, Breer spouting on about Belichick punishment...

Albert Breer ✔ @AlbertBreer
The league will look at discipline for Patriots coach Bill Belichick, though the evidence in the Wells Report makes it look less likely.
Albert Breer ✔ @AlbertBreer
There is precedent for "lack of institutional control" penalties ... Most notably ones handed to Sean Payton in '11 and Rich McKay this year

IMO this holds no water. While I don't think Payton should have been disciplined, the Bounty Program was PROVEN and was much more serious of an allegation. Similarly, the crowd noise deal with Atlanta was PROVEN and was much more serious, and it was not a coach or GM who was disciplined but rather a guy on the competition committee... In this case Belichick was not only cleared as not knowing anything by Wells, but Wells did NOT EVEN PROVE SOMETHING HAPPENED.
 
The angle people seem to be honing in on now seems to be how Brady told Belichick he had nothing to do with it. Depending on what exactly happened, it'll be interesting to see how that shakes out.

Also, Sharks of Vegas had done a complete 180. Sharks of Vegas is kind of a moron.
 
Stop and think about what you're writing people. You sound like a bunch of Steelers fans except they think Goodell is against them and pro Patriots. Cool down, wait and see what develops penalty wise, and the Patriots will move on from there. If others want to think the Patriots have been so successful because they cheat, fine and good. We know how much work the Patriots put into these championships. We know how much they sacrificed. Relax.
 
My guess is a 4 game susp. Jimmy G goes 4-0 with a 14-0 TD to INT ratio and we have a QB controversy on our hands.

LOL
 
If the Colts kept their balls warmer on the sideline, that would explain the difference.

Colts did everything they possibly could to make sure the drop wasnt as big. They knew what was gonna happen.

-Colts warn NFL about deflated balls days before

-Walt Anderson was reminded to follow procedure. Yet somehow never writes the pre-game PSI measurements and tells the investigation that the game balls went missing before hand.

-After the Colts get one of the Pats balls the whole process of checking the balls is initiated.

-Then somehow the refs could only check 4 of the Colts balls (which btw 3 were reported as under inflated but yet that is getting completely ignored) because they ran out of time. But Ted Wells says a person can deflate 12 balls in 1:40. How come the refs couldn't measure 24 balls twice in 12-15 minutes?

SET-UP
 
My guess is a 4 game susp. Jimmy G goes 4-0 with a 14-0 TD to INT ratio and we have a QB controversy on our hands.

LOL

If Brady gets 4 games then Aaron Rodgers should get at least 2.
 
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