Sharks of Las Vegas

VectorPrime said:

You can't fire sports media members for being biased morons. But you can and should fire corrupt league officials.

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Officials sure I am with you on that. You damn well can fire media or journalists for being sharks. For reporting half truths and making stories that aren't anything into something they shouldn't be. They should have editors that say, umm no way are you writing that. Or producers who say, no Stephen A you cannot rant about something that doesn't warrant ranting.

Here's what should haven been the responsible journalism approach. "The NFL has stated there is an investigation into how balls were a little bit low on air when measured at halftime. In no way is there or has there been any accusation levied against and team et etc." This is what journalists should have repeated ad nauseum. Any question asked, just shrug and say we know what you know. Period.

WEEI played a nice little montage this afternoon of some clips during the media hysteria of 'Deflategate' (I'm really starting to hate that stupid term)

I had almost forgotten how much some of these clowns were crucifying the Patriots. Most of them just went with assumption that the Patriots cheated, cameragate was revisited again and again, and the majority of these idiots were more interested in doling out punishment than actually discussing the possibility that the Patriots might be innocent.

Some unidentified female host on FOX even pointed out that if Brady is cheating in a football game, he would also probably cheat on his wife

I'm sticking by my pessimistic view of this. Mainly since any action against Kensil, Grigson or a league official will have to be determined by an investigation where the assumption is everyone told the truth and some spilled their guts.

Come on that's not happening, those guys will lie and they are good at as they have lots of practice. Plus the fact that any sanction against the three mentioned above is going to be a huge stain on the NFL at a time where last years crap has faded in most people's memories.

I just don't see anyone getting in any trouble, except possibly the Pats for doing nothing wrong.

The league sucks.

Rob0729 said:

See I think he would have tried to sweep what the League did wrong under the rug. Unfortunately too much has come out that it cannot be swept under the rug. If the Wells report and there is no information about when the League knew about Grigson's allegations and what they did with that information, the more rational national guys will start to question the report. Many national guys have already started to question what the League knew and when and what they did before and during the game. They have also questioned how leaks came out that smeared the Pats only to be diffused the next day. This is where it helps the Pats because a lot of the national media want to make ESPN look bad and making ESPN look like they were used by Kensil to smear the Pats is a good way to smear ESPN. Goodell has to make someone look bad in the League office.

He might be able to try to minimize what Kensil and others did. But he does have to throw someone under the bus.

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ESPN managed to make itself look bad all by itself when it buried the Kelly Naqi screwup.

ViperGTS said:

There should be a whole group of reporters fired or suspended if and when it absolves the Patriots.

Felger
Mazz
P. King
G. Doyel
B. Kravitz
S.A. Smith
S. Bayless
Pretty much everyone else at ESPN

Pleas feel free to add to the list and who and specify which type of punishment if any you would apply.

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Add Kelly Naqi

karguy85 said:

I guess it was August Krönig in and Rudolf Clausius who discovered the ideal gas law. Perhaps the NFL will fine them (or their ancestors since they are long gone) for discovering it.

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No, but they'll change it because it gives the Patriots an unfair advantage.

I heard Kensil was sent over to London to steal Hawkings' voice system. While stopping at murder, they definitely don't want another Bill Nye wannabe to ruin this either.

Rob0729 said:

See I think he would have tried to sweep what the League did wrong under the rug. Unfortunately too much has come out that it cannot be swept under the rug. If the Wells report and there is no information about when the League knew about Grigson's allegations and what they did with that information, the more rational national guys will start to question the report. Many national guys have already started to question what the League knew and when and what they did before and during the game. They have also questioned how leaks came out that smeared the Pats only to be diffused the next day. This is where it helps the Pats because a lot of the national media want to make ESPN look bad and making ESPN look like they were used by Kensil to smear the Pats is a good way to smear ESPN. Goodell has to make someone look bad in the League office.

He might be able to try to minimize what Kensil and others did. But he does have to throw someone under the bus.

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I've mentioned this before, but I can't believe this report ISN'T going to call into question Kensil's impartiality and the integrity of the League office (not to mention Goodell)

But one important aspect that I hope we don't allow to get lost in the commentary is this

If Kensil was blatantly biased against the Patriots now, helping to fabricate a scandal now, then what role did he play in turning a violation of a new camera placement rule, which was implemented RIGHT when Kensil had left the Jets and joined the League office - the team which coincidentally would later inform the League Office (presumably Kensil) of the Patriots continued violation

Remember, the first of what would become a rash of "-gates" happened thanks to the League's over-reaction - potentially Kensil's - to signal filming camera placement.

If Kensil, who joined the League office immediately following his time as Jets President (when he was jilted by Belichick) had any connection to Spygate's "investigation/reaction/punishment" just one year after he joined the League office, then I think THAT deserves it's own investigation too

Sciz said:

Well I can tell you that he didn't write any awesome pieces in the four weeks following October 23, because he was suspended after punching a cab driver and stealing his car. He's not being accused of letting any air out of the tires, though. He has that going for him.

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Thank you for bringing that up. That's the most notable thing he's done.

FlyboyPatsFan said:

Well, there is a lot of running with the herd and betting with the smart money, but SOV is putting their reputation on the line. They are in the gambling business, and the only way to survive that is not to gamble.

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ViperGTS said:

There should be a whole group of reporters fired or suspended if and when it absolves the Patriots.

Felger
Mazz
P. King
G. Doyel
B. Kravitz
S.A. Smith
S. Bayless
Pretty much everyone else at ESPN

Pleas feel free to add to the list and who and specify which type of punishment if any you would apply.

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Tim "He Gives Me The" Benz. Banished for life to Pittsburgh for simply being a world-class troll.

raduray said:

Add Kelly Naqi

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I can understand how the likes of Doyle and Kravitz make hay by slandering the Pats given that they write articles for a fanbase of semi literate hicks seething with jealous resentment. I don't understand how the Felger and Mazz's and Hackie McMullins of the world get away with this. Defaming the local team should be a career ender.

Don't forget Gary Tanguay, he should just go away no matter what the report says.

If the report exonerates the Patriots, I can't wait for Brunell to cry on TV again saying he just can't believe the report.

ViperGTS said:

There should be a whole group of reporters fired or suspended if and when it absolves the Patriots.

Felger
Mazz
P. King
G. Doyel
B. Kravitz
S.A. Smith
S. Bayless
Pretty much everyone else at ESPN

Pleas feel free to add to the list and who and specify which type of punishment if any you would apply.

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Good luck with that. Sports reporters are considered the toy department in journalism circles. Since real journalists have no ethics or accountability these days, who's making sports reorters accountable. They are entertainment, like the kardashians.

YOUGOTMOSSED said:

I can understand how the likes of Doyle and Kravitz make hay by slandering the Pats given that they write articles for a fanbase of semi literate hicks seething with jealous resentment. I don't understand how the Felger and Mazz's and Hackie McMullins of the world get away this. Defaming the local team should be a career ender.

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YOUGOTMOSSED said:

I can understand how the likes of Doyle and Kravitz make hay by slandering the Pats given that they write articles for a fanbase of semi literate hicks seething with jealous resentment. I don't understand how the Felger and Mazz's and Hackie McMullins of the world get away with this. Defaming the local team should be a career ender.

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Because doing so makes you a brave and independent patrician proving that you are a higher form of life than the the plebeian fanboys, honks, homers and pom-pom waving rump swabs who have the audacity to root for the local teams. The fact that those four pro teams have won 9 world championships in 14 years is an inconsequential detail to be summarily dismissed. That type of smarmy attitude is exemplified by Shank Shaughnessy's continual, repeated assertions that the Patriots didn't win the SB on their own (Seattle gave it to them) and that the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2013 was a "fluke" (yeah, a 162 game regular season, going 11-5 in the postseason against Tampa Bay, Detroit and St. Louis was a "fluke.). They're all jerk-offs. But, as much as the contrarians hate the local teams, their greatest hatred and disdain is reserved for the fans those teams.

Fear for the worst but hope for the best. It's hard to know with the people involved in the investigation having conflicts of interest, and the people interpreting those investigations being as dumb as bricks.

Froob said:

I'm sure the league will look into it. The gas law is just deceptive IMO and really has no place in today's world.

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there is no way the Final Report will mention the ideal gas law. it's too complicated for goodell.

BradyManny said:

Fear for the worst but hope for the best. It's hard to know with the people involved in the investigation having conflicts of interest, and the people interpreting those investigations being as dumb as bricks.

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That's an insult to bricks.

TommyBrady12 said:

there is no way the Final Report will mention the ideal gas law. it's too complicated for goodell.

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Actually it literally has to.

TommyBrady12 said:

there is no way the Final Report will mention the ideal gas law. it's too complicated for goodell.

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Recitation of the alphabet is too complicated for The Dope.