Brady at the MGM grand

Sticky Caulk said:

The boring came from Pac. He didn't attack but a few fluries. We know Mayweather comes for a check but a lot of people were under the illusion that Pacman was more than that. Pacman should have known Mayweather was a better boxer than him from the beginning and went for broke Gatti style.

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He did try. Whenever he lunged Floyd sidestepped. And when he tried to walk him down, Floyd stiffed him with a jab and then sidestepped. And when Pac did get inside, Floyd held him. Floyd is just too hard of a puzzle to figure out. He had a 3 inch height advantage, a 4 inch reach advantage, quicker reflex, and is as smart a fighter as there ever been. But no one ever watches his fights for offense.

For a fighter to get dominated like Pac, he barely got any bruise to his face. He was never hurt lol.

Wheelman said:

So What happened?

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Lots of dancing, some poking. No one got hurt. Mayweather won on points.

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DarrylS said:

I pine for the days of Muhammad Ali vs. Frazier or Liston or Patterson... those were much better days for boxing in general.. maybe the boxers were more likable.. there was an element of theatrics and we all wanted to watch him weave his pugilistic magic..

Does anyone remember the Liston vs. Ali fight in Lewiston in 1965??? Less than two minutes into the fight Liston was on the ground and Ali stood over him taunting him..

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that was the fight with the invisible punch.

ps i thought pac won that fight.

If you've ever seen Dancing With The Stars then you have basically seen the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight. The difference is you didn't have to pay $1oo to watch DWTS.

Deus Irae said:

I hear you about the differences. To me, MMA is just a street fight with a referee and gloves, and a street fight has no business having either a referee or gloves.

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At this point in my life I have about fifteen years worth of experience between the two disciplines. Boxing was "my sport" for a long time until I walked into a Jiu jitsu school and felt like a baby for two years. Then I followed a buddy after practice to the Muay thai academy and spent another few months getting my legs chopped off. MMA is infinitely more complicated and technical than boxing...and then the ground game starts. To compare to football, boxing is is you could only run the ball between the tackles. MMA is the full game. Watching boxing now feels exactly like watching football where running between the tackles is all you can do.

"Another run between the guard and the center...ah but this time they pulled the backside guard! Masterful! What strategy!" And I'm just sitting there like "there's 11 men in the box! Throw the damn ball!"

Brady_2_Moss said:

This is such an ignorant view of martial arts. Most fighters in MMA have studied one or many martial arts for years. Take high level Jiu Jitsu for instance, a 15olb jiu jitsu black belt could tap Gronk within a minute - no joke. It takes 8-10 years (on average) to become a BB in jiu jitsu. That's just one facet, add to that Muay Thai, wrestling, boxing, and to a lesser degree, karate, etc. - it's hardly a street fight. MMA can be brutal, but it is combat in the truest sense and demonstrates the full human potential. To the uninformed, it may look like 2 guys in a bar fight, but that's like saying football is just a bunch of dumb jocks running after a ball.

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It's not ignorant, at all. It's my informed opinion, from my personal perspective. You're free to disagree with it. Next time, though, try reading the thread before posting. Had you done that, you'd have seen that both of us involved in that back and forth were acknowledging that we were discussing only our specific tastes. Neither of us was bashing the "inside baseball" aspects of either sport.

And no "combat in the truest sense" involves rules, so don't kid yourself.

VectorPrime said:

Well that was dumb. Boxing will never ever come close to this level of hype again because millions of non fans (like me) who bought into all the hype and excitement are now going "that was it? never doing this again." This was the last hurrah and it sucked.

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Boxing has been trying to kill itself for years. Maybe this year it finally succeeds.

"Sarah Connor? Come with me if you want to live."

i want my $100 back!!!
money is a defensive wizard and makes every damn fights boring as hell to watch for non fans.

pac was much smaller fighter and he didn't have a speed advantage. fight was over in the 1st round. it was so predictable.

this would be a lst PPV i'll buy for a boxing match. i'm really done with the sports. if there is another big fight, i'll make sure my friends pay it and not me! and i'll just wait till the morning and download the fight. no way in hell i'm gonna pay for another boxing PPV.


seriously, only guy who can 'dirty up' the fight against money is probably a prime hit man hearns and few others.

i'm just done with the sports. i even watched the klitchko fight in showtime last saturday. put me to sleep in 2 minutes. sweet science of zzquil is what boxing has become.

VectorPrime said:

Really wish Brady wasn't pulling for Mayweather. Mayweather is a horrible human being. Not sure why they are friends.

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This narrative has become so absurd. Manny is not a saint. There's a reason he's so religious and preachy now.

DarrylS said:

I pine for the days of Muhammad Ali vs. Frazier or Liston or Patterson... those were much better days for boxing in general.. maybe the boxers were more likable.. there was an element of theatrics and we all wanted to watch him weave his pugilistic magic..

Does anyone remember the Liston vs. Ali fight in Lewiston in 1965??? Less than two minutes into the fight Liston was on the ground and Ali stood over him taunting him..

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Ali was every bit the dull boring fighter later in his career that Floyd is today. He was the king of hanging on the ropes until his opponent gassed out. Boxing still has its great fights, you just wont often see them when a belt/legacy is on the line.

hoeilaart said:

Ali was every bit the dull boring fighter later in his career that Floyd is today. He was the king of hanging on the ropes until his opponent gassed out. Boxing still has its great fights, you just wont often see them when a belt/legacy is on the line.

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The difference is that Mayweather has always been about one thing, money. It's the only thing he's ever cared about and his entire persona is based around it. It's shallow and it's boring. Ali on the other hand was so much more. He was arguably larger outside the ring than he was in it. He wasn't just a great fighter, he was great.

hoeilaart said:

Ali was every bit the dull boring fighter later in his career that Floyd is today. He was the king of hanging on the ropes until his opponent gassed out. Boxing still has its great fights, you just wont often see them when a belt/legacy is on the line.

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lol. not even gonna bother correcting this uninformed post

Deus Irae said:

A lot of the MMA people can't appreciate what they're seeing out there. The ignore the obvious differences in the two sports, and judge boxing based upon MMA criteria. I think it's just another issue with the short attention span generations.

The same people would probably complain about Ali and the rope-a-dope against Foreman.

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Ali knocked out Foreman in the end.

Didn't see anything close to that ending last night.

I had to show my son Hagler-Hearns, parts of Ali-Frazier (all 3) to show him what boxing used to be like.

Last night was a snooze fest. A very good technical fight, but very little entertainment value to the millions.

Pacquiao looked a little too happy to lose with the large purse. Even though he is a year or two younger than Mayweather, he looked ready to get on with the rest of his life.

VectorPrime said:

The difference is that Mayweather has always been about one thing, money. It's the only thing he's ever cared about and his entire persona is based around it. It's shallow and it's boring. Ali on the other hand was so much more. He was arguably larger outside the ring than he was in it. He wasn't just a great fighter, he was great.

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Ali was a compelling historical figure.

Mayweather is just a shallow cliche of his era.

shmessy said:

Ali knocked out Foreman in the end.

Didn't see anything close to that ending last night.

I had to show my son Hagler-Hearns, parts of Ali-Frazier (all 3) to show him what boxing used to be like.

Last night was a snooze fest. A very good technical fight, but very little entertainment value to the millions.

Pacquiao looked a little too happy to lose with the large purse. Even though he is a year or two younger than Mayweather, he looked ready to get on with the rest of his life.

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With his faculties in tact which is more than you can say for a lot of FB players. Maybe Tom's trying to darken his image what with blowing off the Prez and cheering for a noted wife beater?

vyrago said:

With his faculties in tact which is more than you can say for a lot of FB players. Maybe Tom's trying to darken his image what with blowing off the Prez and cheering for a noted wife beater?

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If Joe Namath had done this, it would have been fine. Just fine.

And, if Jeter had done this, it would have been fine.

So how drunk was TB during the prefight interview??

wolverinejoe80 said:

lol. not even gonna bother correcting this uninformed post

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Yeah, don't bother adding to the conversation.