Brady at the MGM grand

People say this after a hyped up fight, every time. Boxing is not always Tyson. Actually, it rarely is. The way those two went at it is unbelievable and hard to really understand unless you try to do it yourself. Stuff is crazy.

If you can't pin Mayweather against the ropes, you can't beat him. M.P. just became the latest to learn that.

Mayweather won as I predicted but I wasted my 100 dollars on this boring BS

Deus Irae said:

If you can't pin Mayweather against the ropes, you can't beat him. M.P. just became the latest to learn that.

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That's the fun of Mayweather. Everyone looks like someone that can take him until they get in the ring with him. He's a great heel too. Obviously boxing is not dead and he's been great for the sport considering a huge amount of people watched.

Sticky Caulk said:

That's the fun of Mayweather. Everyone looks like someone that can take him until they get in the ring with him. He's a great heel too. Obviously boxing is not dead and he's been great for the sport considering a huge amount of people watched.

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A lot of the MMA people can't appreciate what they're seeing out there. The ignore the obvious differences in the two sports, and judge boxing based upon MMA criteria. I think it's just another issue with the short attention span generations.

The same people would probably complain about Ali and the rope-a-dope against Foreman.

So What happened?

Sticky Caulk said:

Obviously boxing is not dead

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That match was boxing's last hurrah.

Deus Irae said:

A lot of the MMA people can't appreciate what they're seeing out there. The ignore the obvious differences in the two sports, and judge boxing based upon MMA criteria. I think it's just another issue with the short attention span generations.

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Boxing is fantastic if you love seeing a lot more strategy over action. MMA is much better if you prefer a combination, though favoring action, as much more is legal.

Entirely different crowds, most seem to favor the MMA style lately as its faster paced, myself included, doesn't make boxing bad by any means, but tonights showing certainly wasn't a $400m fight in my eyes.

You can only enjoy boxing after watching MMA if you're capable of appreciating what you're seeing, MMA is much easier to appreciate.

Wheelman said:

So What happened?

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Mayweather won in typical Mayweather fashion! Nothing special

Haterproof said:

Mayweather won in typical Mayweather fashion! Nothing special

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I've never watched boxing in my life. Was it a knockout in the first round or something?

strngplyr said:

Boxing is fantastic if you love seeing a lot more strategy over action. MMA is much better if you prefer a combination, though favoring action, as much more is legal.

Entirely different crowds, most seem to favor the MMA style lately as its faster paced, myself included, doesn't make boxing bad by any means, but tonights showing certainly wasn't a $400m fight in my eyes.

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The money is irrelevant. The issue is the fight. The fight played out the way Mayweather fights play out. Mayweather showed he's still tough to pin down. Pacquiao seemed to show that time's caught up with him.

It's just too bad the heavyweight division sucks.

Wheelman said:

I've never watched boxing in my life. Was it a knockout in the first round or something?

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Mayweather is one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time. He controlled the fight and out-boxed Manny. Landed something like 60-70 more punches and a higher percentage of them too.

Deus Irae said:

The money is irrelevant. The issue is the fight. Mayweather showed hes' still tough to pin down. Pacquiao seemed to show that time's caught up with him.

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Pacquiao's size difference killed him. Fight wasn't fair from the start, 4 inch reach and 3 inch height difference favoring Mayweather. When both are equally talented, or at least very close, HUGE advantage to Mayweather.

He tried to be aggressive but the unfair size difference never allowed it to happen outside of 2 or 3 rounds he got Mayweather against the ropes. All Mayweather did was send a few jabs out and it kept Pacquiao and his style at bay for the entire night pretty much.

Edit: You're probably right that he's slowing down, but I don;'t think that was the issue tonight.

strngplyr said:

Boxing is fantastic if you love seeing a lot more strategy over action. MMA is much better if you prefer a combination, though favoring action, as much more is legal.

Entirely different crowds, most seem to favor the MMA style lately as its faster paced, myself included, doesn't make boxing bad by any means, but tonights showing certainly wasn't a $400m fight in my eyes.

You can only enjoy boxing after watching MMA if you're capable of appreciating what you're seeing, MMA is much easier to appreciate.

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I'm not an MMA fan. I tried to develop a taste for it, but I just can't.

Deus Irae said:

I'm not an MMA fan. I tried to develop a taste for it, but I just can't.

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Like I said, totally different styles, I'm younger, 26, I much prefer the pace of MMA fights over boxing, it can be a lot more reckless while still showing a bit of boxing's strategy, but I fully understand the appeal to boxing, it's just not for me, at least not on the same level as MMA.

strngplyr said:

Pacquiao's size difference killed him. Fight wasn't fair from the start, 4 inch reach and 3 inch height difference favoring Mayweather. When both are equally talented, or at least very close, HUGE advantage to Mayweather.

He tried to be aggressive but the unfair size difference never allowed it to happen outside of 2 or 3 rounds he got Mayweather against the ropes. All Mayweather did was send a few jabs out and it kept Pacquiao and his style at bay for the entire night pretty much.

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He wasn't aggressive enough. He should have jumped in a bit more at the end. He is softer now. Guy on one of the networks says that he just isn't the same man he was when he started because he lives a softer life now. I think that's true.

Froob said:

Christ everyone is at this fight. Brady, MJ, Gronk, Wahlberg, TO, hell even Floyd Mayweather .

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Just got home from watching it. Too bad Pacquio wasn't.

Sticky Caulk said:

He wasn't aggressive enough. He should have jumped in a bit more at the end. He is softer now. Guy on one of the networks says that he just isn't the same man he was when he started because he lives a softer life now. I think that's true.

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I fully agree, in rds 10-12 he should have gone all in, he had to have known he was down by a few points, theres no way he truly thought it was close enough to fight how he did.

That's partly why I'm not sure he was SUPPOSED to win. I'm not big on conspiracies, but Pacman has either gotten VERY soft of Mayweather was winning that fight now matter what.

strngplyr said:

Like I said, totally different styles, I'm younger, 26, I much prefer the pace of MMA fights over boxing, it can be a lot more reckless while still showing a bit of boxing's strategy, but I fully understand the appeal to boxing, it's just not for me, at least not on the same level as MMA.

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I hear you about the differences. To me, MMA is just a street fight with a referee and gloves, and a street fight has no business having either a referee or gloves.

Sticky Caulk said:

He wasn't aggressive enough. He should have jumped in a bit more at the end. He is softer now. Guy on one of the networks says that he just isn't the same man he was when he started because he lives a softer life now. I think that's true.

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That's sort of what I was referring to. He wasn't willing, or able, to take the shots needed to get inside on Mayweather.