THE OFFICIAL 2015 NFL Rounds 4-7draft thread

DaBruinz · May 2, 2015

primetime said:
He's "required" to serve 5 (everyone who goes to the Naval Academy is) but can apply to leave after 2 if he's on the Patriots roster.

Actually, he can get dispensation for the 2 if he is on the Patriots Roster, just like Ben Garland did with the Broncos last year.

primetime · May 2, 2015

ViperGTS said:
Slater was a terrible 5th round choice for a "special teamer" as well. Why do people constantly undervalue superior or possible superior special teams players? That's where Edelman started. If you can get a long snapper that won't ever airmail a ball or misfire you do it. Could be the play of a game.

Normally I'd agree, but Slater could come in and play from day one. Cardona will almost certainly be unavailable until 2017, and it seems unlikely that another team would have selected him in the 5th or 6th round as a result.

rochrist · May 2, 2015

DefenseRules said:
Are there any good corners left at this point?

There weren't any left after the 1st round.

ViperGTS · May 2, 2015

jmt57 said:
Experts looking for/expecting the Patriots to draft corners early and often were a bit off.

Looks like Malcolm Butler, Logan Ryan and Alfonzo Dennard will be competing for the two outside starting positions, with Kyle Arrington as the slot corner.

After that it is Bradley Fletcher, Robert McClain, Justin Green, Dax Swanson and Chimdi Chekwa at cornerback. Hopefully everyone can continue to improve, and stay healthy.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Pats double down at corner in the 2016 draft, similar to the focus on the offensive line this year.

Kinda like..you know building from the inside out? Maybe this is what they liked this year (Front 7). I completely agree.

Husse · May 2, 2015

Skree said:
Who am I supposed to be looking at here?

#22

Patriot Missile · May 2, 2015

primetime said:
He's only 222 lbs. Tweener type guy.

Pretty close to Shaq Thompson who you would of thought if drafted by Pats would be converted to safety. 6th round vs 1st. I see the value after initial wtf moment.

J Beezy · May 2, 2015

For all the people who want us to pick up Lael Collins (myself included)... The best chance of us actually getting him is for him to go undrafted. He has openly said he would not play this year if drafted after the 3rd, and being drafted would allow him to sit out this year and resubmit his name for the 2016 draft. If he goes undrafted he CANNOT declare again next year and must sign with n NFL team if he intends to play a down in this league. As a UDFA I think the pats would have a good chanceto sign hhim and would be able to get him for a cheap 3 year contract

Skree · May 2, 2015

Husse said:
#22

Thanks!

KDPPatsfan85 · May 2, 2015

Interesting...

https://twitter.com/PFF_Matt/status/594586824145707008

ViperGTS · May 2, 2015

primetime said:
Normally I'd agree, but Slater could come in and play from day one. Cardona will almost certainly be unavailable until 2017, and it seems unlikely that another team would have selected him in the 5th or 6th round as a result.

Possible. They could slide him into the Reserves. There are quite a few things that could be done I imagine.

DaBruinz · May 2, 2015

jays52 said:
Linebackers that size with that speed taken where he was don't convert to safety or project to be a dime backer. They're special teams guys. With that speed he'll be a stud covering kicks.

While I agree about covering kicks, what is to say that he won't be able to handle being a safety? He's just doesn't have speed. He's also got quickness and agility that compares closely to the likes of Kam Chancellor and other good Safeties.. The question becomes how does diagnosing plays in front of him.. He did play OLB for Miss. St. and did drop into coverage for them.. Not saying that he WILL be a Kam Chancellor but there is nothing that says he won't either.

FredFromDartmouth · May 2, 2015

How about Ifo Ekpre-olomu? Is he still available? Might as well draft him since this season is a throw-away as far as the defensive backfield....

primetime · May 2, 2015

DaBruinz said:
Actually, he can get dispensation for the 2 if he is on the Patriots Roster, just like Ben Garland did with the Broncos last year.

Garland joined the Broncos in camp after being signed as a UDFA in 2010, then served 2 years active duty prior to rejoining the Broncos (in camp) in 2012. He didn't actually make his NFL debut until last season after 2 years of bouncing around on the practice squad, but he had done exactly what Cardona would have to do - serve 2 years and then apply to join the NFL - by 2012.

Garland was signed by the Denver Broncos on April 25, 2010 after going undrafted in the 2010 NFL Draft. The Broncos placed Garland on the reserve/military list on September 4, 2010 to serve his two-year military commitment.[3] He was released by the Broncos on August 31, 2012. He was signed to the Broncos' practice squad on September 1, 2012. He was released by the Broncos on August 30, 2013 and signed to the team's practice squad on September 4, 2013. Garland signed a future's deal with the Broncos on February 4, 2014.[4] He made his NFL debut on November 9, 2014 against the Oakland Raiders.[5]

Garland was Stationed at Scott Air Force Base. as a Public Affairs Office from 2010 to 2012 while assigned to the Denver Broncos Military Reserve players list. Garland held the rank of second lieutenant during this time.

The Boomer · May 2, 2015

goheels22002 said:
A tip of the cap to Belichick's father, Steve, with the selection of LS Joe Cardona from Navy. Good show.

He's required to complete his military service first, I believe. 19-0 in 2019!

borg said:
There's your DB......a 4.33 oversized DB................BB.......chess master .........proven each and every pick.
What a one-two punch.....Ensign Long Snapper and our 222 lb transitional DB.........
BB is a true visionary
Ebner should be calling his agent

I love how we can rarely predict what he will do next. A small LB with secondary talent. Great gambles. One of my binky big WR picks could still be there at 202 or next round. However, at this point, those WR picks are more likely competition for Dobson, et. al. rather than upgrades. The same is obviously true at CB.
I just love how GOAT BB is so far ahead of us almost every time.

primetime · May 2, 2015

ViperGTS said:
Possible. They could slide him into the Reserves. There are quite a few things that could be done I imagine.

This used to be the case but DOD has had a directive since 2008 (probably after the Caleb Campbell fiasco) that makes a 2 year commitment a requirement.

shmessy · May 2, 2015

rochrist said:
There's some speculation he could move to safety.

Naw, we're all set at Safety. We've got Jordan Richards.

RayClay · May 2, 2015

primetime said:
Nor has NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/matthew-wells?id=2553443

I like that we draft players no one has heard of. Would suck if the team had to depend on web sites for information. Not likely we would have just happened to walk into a Mississippi popeye's, for example.

Anyway, this guy looks like a pretty impressive under the radar athlete, though position is an issue.

2014 SENIOR SEASON:

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Started all 13 games at outside linebacker … Notched 45 total tackles and ranked second on the squad in tackles for loss with 8.5, including four sacks … Tallied six quarterback hurries … Tallied five tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss, half a sack and two pass breakups in the Sept. 13 win at South Alabama … Registered five tackles, a sack and a quarterback hurry in the Oct. 11 win against No. 2 Auburn … Credited with four tackles, one tackle for loss and a forced fumble in the road win at Kentucky … Recorded a season-high nine tackles in the home win against Arkansas to go along with 1.0 tackles for loss, two pass breakups and a pair of quarterback hurries … Totaled five tackles, a tackle for loss, two quarterback hurries and a pass breakup at No. 3 Alabama Nov. 15 … Had a career-high 1.5 sacks in the Senior Day win against Vanderbilt, tallying three tackles.

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http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=204973097

2013 JUNIOR SEASON:

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Starting linebacker who ranked fifth on the squad in tackles with 50 ... Started all 13 contests ... Tied for the team lead in fumble recoveries with two while racking up 6.0 tackles for loss and one sack ... Made initial stop of the year against Oklahoma State (8/31) on Josh Stewart by tossing him for a two-yard loss on the final play of the first quarter ... Recovered first career fumble at Auburn (9/14), grabbing a Tre Mason fumble in the third quarter ... Registered first sack of the season against Troy (9/21), stopping Deon Anthony for a three-yard loss in the first quarter ... Forced a fumble on the play, his first of the campaign and second of career ... Tallied two tackles and one for a loss against LSU (10/5) ... Tallied six tackles at Texas A&M (11/9), including three on the Aggies’ opening drive of the contest ... Notched seven tackles against the Alabama, including four third-quarter hits ... Recorded seven tackles against Ole Miss (11/28), making four hits during the Rebels’ first drive of the second half ... Forced a fumble in the Liberty Bowl win over Rice.

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http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=204973097

2012 SOPHOMORE SEASON:

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Posted 34 tackles in 13 games … Earned a start at outside linebacker in four of the first five games of the season … Filled up the defensive stat sheet with one sack, 2.5 tackles for loss, an interception, two pass breakups a forced fumble and three quarterback hurries … Recorded a career-high 10 tackles against Texas A&M … Posted four tackles each of the first two weeks of the season.

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http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=204973097

2011 REDSHIRT FRESHMAN SEASON:

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All-SEC Freshman nominee who played in all 13 games, including three starts … Totaled 36 tackles, 5.0 tackles for loss, one pass breakup and one quarterback hurry … Registered five tackles and 1.0 tackles for loss in his first start in the season debut at Memphis … Credited for a tackle for loss in the SEC opener at Auburn … Notched a season-high six tackles and 2.0 tackles for loss in the win vs. Louisiana Tech at home … Made five tackles in the homecoming victory against UT Martin … Totaled three tackles in the Music City Bowl victory against Wake Forest, including one behind the line of scrimmage.

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http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=204973097

HIGH SCHOOL:

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Listed as the No. 4 Most Wanted Prospect in the state of Mississippi by the Clarion-Ledger ... Selected to play in the Mississippi-Alabama All-Star Game ... Listed as the No. 6 prospect in the state regardless of position by Scout.com ... A four-star prospect and the No. 17 running back in the nation according to Scout.com ... The No. 11 prospect in the state on the Mississippi Press Fantastic 15 ... Preseason member of the Clarion-Ledger Dandy Dozen ... Named First-Team All-State in Class 4A by the Mississippi Association of Coaches ... Despite missing four games during senior season due to injury, finished with 1,050 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns ... Also credited with 36 tackles and four interceptions ... Rushed for 1,352 yards as a junior on 113 carries and scored 21 touchdowns ... Also starred on the Lawrence County High School basketball team ... Committed to Mississippi State over Ole Miss in January of 2010.

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http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=204973097

shmessy · May 2, 2015

The Boomer said:
I love how we can rarely predict what he will do next. A small LB with secondary talent. Great gambles. One of my binky big WR picks could still be there at 202 or next round. However, at this point, those WR picks are more likely competition for Dobson, et. al. rather than upgrades. The same is obviously true at CB.
I just love how GOAT BB is so far ahead of us almost every time.

Yeah, it's like appreciating Modern Art.

IcyPatriot · May 2, 2015

eff the lawn at this point ..............

manxman2601 · May 2, 2015

I realise this isn't a recommendation for some, but PFF have been loving the Patriots draft. At the attached link there's a statistical comparison between Wells and Shaq Thompson. Spoiler alert. Wells wins.

https://twitter.com/PFF_Matt/status/594586824145707008

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