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KontradictioN said:

I like this pick a lot more than I live the Richards pick. Grissom was wreaking havoc on Alabama all throughout the Sugar Bowl a couple of years ago. He shouldn't be used in coverage too often as he lacks the athleticism to do so on a regular basis but as a rotational 5-tech, he should be a nice piece to have. He needs to work on his technique a bit more at the next level but the team could probably use another pass rusher, given the state of the secondary, and they got one.

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PP2 said:

Beat me to it. This was pre-MCL and if I'm right, pre-stress issues in both feet?

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manxman2601 said:

I wonder if Grissom is a combination of Hightower insurance and a future Nink replacement. Dropped into coverage almost as much as rushed the passer.

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patsfaninpa said:

There's an old adage about pro football which is still true. You can never have enough pass rushers. My pet peeve about many NFL teams is the lack of a rotation along the DL. I think we're building a nice 8 man rotation. A solid backup at every position. The big fellas wear out. You need to get to the qb in order to prevent some of these 4th quarter comebacks which happen all the time.

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unoriginal said:

Collins ran a 4.64, Hightower a 4.68. Grissom a 4.81. I don't think he's an off-the-line defender.

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Canuck said:

Probably that he has also played some TE as well being a defensive player might be a factor in him being drafted. Belichick like players who can play multiple positions. Probably not a starter but can be coached to be a backup at multiple positions.

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patsfaninpa said:

There's an old adage about pro football which is still true. You can never have enough pass rushers. My pet peeve about many NFL teams is the lack of a rotation along the DL. I think we're building a nice 8 man rotation. A solid backup at every position. The big fellas wear out. You need to get to the qb in order to prevent some of these 4th quarter comebacks which happen all the time.

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jays52 said:

I just watched a fair bit of his game footage. About half an hour of staring at #85. In it I saw him play over the guard, over the tackle, over the tight end, and from outside in a two point. He's a very intriguing athlete. There were a couple of situations he was playing the 3 on passing downs. Easy win for him to beat the guard with his athleticism but he also displayed an adequate bull rush with good pad height and leverage. He got a few reps playing the 4 in base which surprised me. He didn't get blown off the ball. He plays long in the running game. Very active moving with the blocker. Not a first step edge world beater but he bends well and is more athletic than advertised. He scrapes like an ILB- actually one of the real standout aspects of his game. In a two point he was decent. He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy with the hip fluidity to play off the line very often in the NFL. What did, however surpise me was his pursuit. He may have ran a 4.8 but he pursues like a 4.5 heat seeking missile. There were a few plays where his teammates looked in slow motion in comparrison as he knifed across the field and arrived with bad intent. To me he looks like a left end with plus athleticsm in this system. He can kick in and play over the guard in sub without being too much of a liability. He's not so much of a liability dropping back that you can't zone blitz with him but he doesn't look like a linebacker to me. He's a very interesting athlete. I don't think he'll be a Collins style chess piece, nor the pure linebacker talent that is High, but he strikes me as a very valuable rotational guy who allows some more diversity and flexibility. Can back up Easley and be a productive base end/sub rusher inside. I think he's a player.

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There were a few plays where his teammates looked in slow motion in comparison as he knifed across the field and arrived with bad intent.

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KontradictioN said:

We're probably going to need it, as things stand right now. I don't have a whole world of confidence in a secondary that is going to have to employ a lot of zone looks because of the lack of confidence in the CB position. Of course, the team could draft someone like Shaw or pull the trigger on a trade but, as it stands right now, it looks like the Patriots secondary is returning to the vaunted "death by a thousand papercuts" secondary we saw from 2010-2012 (pre-Talib). So all the pass rush help we can get is much needed. On another note, I do like how the front seven is shaping up. They should be stout.

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robertweathers said:

Loved this...

There were a few plays where his teammates looked in slow motion in comparison as he knifed across the field and arrived with bad intent.

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patsfaninpa said:

The Talib Trade and Revis signing bailed us out. From an area of poor drafting and equally poor development once we had them. Can we win without good corner play? Up to a certain point. But, doubt we can win it all. Somebody could step up like Butler or Dennard. That's more likely than whomever we pick today.

Gonna be like one of those Tampa 2 teams. But, a 4-2-5 instead of a 4-3. Hope the DL gets to the qb. Because, the corners will play soft and try not to give up big plays. Your death by a thousand papercuts has returned.

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manxman2601 said:

I wonder if Grissom is a combination of Hightower insurance and a future Nink replacement. Dropped into coverage almost as much as rushed the passer.

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PP2 said:

FWIW, this bust beat up Saban's OL something good in the sugar bowl. BB may have seen something there.

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PP2 said:

It's, quite frankly, poetic.

The man possess a mean literary streak.

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moosekill said:

I at least give Scott99 a pass, when I was 15 I was emotional and thought I new everything too.

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50-yard-line said:

The two picks of Day 2 confirmed for me what I believed going in: BB likes the 75 players he had under contract going into the draft, so he's picking people he thinks possess certain skill sets - intelligence, versatility - which give them a chance to make a young and very deep football team.

That doesn't mean I agree with his picks - I thought AJ Cann was as gift-wrapped for us as Malcom Brown had been at the end of Round 1, but apparently Scar and BB didn't agree. I'm also thinking they could have taken Cann or someone else and still had Richards and Grissom in the 3rd. but who knows?

So what do I know? I hear the "reminds me of Harmon and Wilson" on Richards, but for all the hand-wringing about those two, both contributed significantly through the playoffs last year. Harmon did his job and got the pick in the end zone to end the Baltimore game and Wilson made a big hit to prevent a 3rd down conversion in the SB, and was big on ST all year long.

I went back and looked at the 2012 draft post-Tavon Wilson round 2 and round 3. There are a couple of guys I wish we had taken instead in hindsight (though I'm not even sure they would have flourished in our system) and a whole bunch of guys I never heard of and doubt are still in the league.

After the big 4, I don''t think there were any corners BB thought would break into his ranks - they like Greene and Swanson a lot, too, and both have a year in their system. I posted this in another thread, asking where any remaining corner might fit in.

My hunch is that Bradley Fletcher might well be one of our starting CBs. Kelly hung him out to dry last year, putting him one-on-one against some top receivers with absolutely no safety help. My guess is that BB thinks he's going to be a pleasant surprise.

There's just not a lot of room on this team, even on the PS.

They still need to address the OL in a big way. Evan Mathis coming here would make this off-season okay.

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scott99 said:

And how old are you ? That you don't know (no ?) when to use new or knew ? You're a Rhodes Scholar right ?

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