NFL.com 7 round draft has us taking...

Round 1 (32): Landon Collins, S, Alabama
Round 2 (64): Grady Jarrett, DT, Clemson
Round 3 (96): Ali Marpet, G, Hobart
Round 3 (97): Anthony Chickillo, DE, Miami
Round 4 (101): Tyler Lockett, WR, Kansas State
Round 4 (131): Bobby McCain, CB, Memphis
Round 6 (178): Austin Shepherd, OT, Alabama
Round 7 (219): Junior Sylvestre, LB, Toledo
Round 7 (253): Doniel Gambrell, OT, Notre Dame College

Some UDFA's include Joey Mbu, Austin Hill & DeAndre Smelter

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...venround-mock-draft-notable-undrafted-players

Man, I'd be thrilled if Smelter was available with our 6th. I know the knee injury and GT's crazy offense may skew opinions, but I just can't see him going undrafted. Obviously I'm no expert, but I'd be absolutely shocked if he goes undrafted. I say snag him with our 6th (if available), stash him on IR and lock him in a room with the playbook for the year, and reap the benefits in '16.

Yeah, I saw that. Not half bad, I thought. Grady Jarrett is a great pick.

I would have preferred a RB at #97 instead of Chickillo. As the board played out, RB David Cobb, Minnesota would have been the pick for me, a good fit and a quality choice IMO.

I'm skeptical that BB would use #32 on a SS, even including one that's dropping down draft boards like a lead weight. I felt that the NFL.com guys freaked out a little to be mocking Collins into the 2nd round, and thought, "Hell, just give him to the Pat's and lets get on with it". To me, Shaq Thompson > Landon Collins.

My only other complaint is that they didn't draft a Long Snapper. I think that 6th rounder is GUARANTEED to be a LS... although I gave up betting on certainty in BB drafts many years ago.

Not a bad mock but I don't like Collins at 32. I don't think he's going to anything more than an okay safety as a pro.

Love the Jarrett and Lockett picks. A Divison III Guard scares me though. All in all a B-/C+

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Round 1 (32): Landon Collins, S, Alabama
Round 2 (64): Grady Jarrett, DT, Clemson
Round 3 (96): Ali Marpet, G, Hobart
Round 3 (97): Anthony Chickillo, DE, Miami
Round 4 (101): Tyler Lockett, WR, Kansas State
Round 4 (131): Bobby McCain, CB, Memphis
Round 6 (178): Austin Shepherd, OT, Alabama
Round 7 (219): Junior Sylvestre, LB, Toledo
Round 7 (253): Doniel Gambrell, OT, Notre Dame College

Some UDFA's include Joey Mbu, Austin Hill & DeAndre Smelter

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...venround-mock-draft-notable-undrafted-players

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Give me Byron Jones at 32 instead of Collins. Mike Davis at 131 instead of McCain. Smelter at 178. Love the Garrett, Marpet, Chickillo and Lockett picks. That would be so good. I'd let Brother OTG pick the 7th rounders. I wouldn't care.

I like the Collins, Jarrett, Marpet, and Lockett picks and would be thrilled with Smelter as a UDFA. I would take that draft. Ideally I would want a corner before the 4th and McCain isn't my favorite in the draft by any stretch of the imagination but that's a draft I would be satisfied with.

patsfaninpa said:

Give me Byron Jones at 32 instead of Collins. Mike Davis at 131 instead of McCain. Smelter at 178. Love the Garrett, Marpet, Chickillo and Lockett picks. That would be so good. I'd let Brother OTG pick the 7th rounders. I wouldn't care.

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Jones-Jarrett-Marpet-Davis and Smelter is about as close to perfect as a draft could get. Just add Shaq Mason please.

manxman2601 said:

Jones-Jarrett-Marpet-Davis and Smelter is about as close to perfect as a draft could get. Just add Shaq Mason please.

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I'm a big Lockett fan too. Apprentice for a year. Will allow us to let Amendola walk after 2015 season. Chickillo is an interesting pass-rusher. Can never have enough of those. I could see Davis at 101. A move back from 131 for a 5th and a 6th. Should be able to get Mason with one of them. We do have Buchanan and Moore. So, de isn't a priority.

patsfaninpa said:

I'm a big Lockett fan too. Apprentice for a year. Will allow us to let Amendola walk after 2015 season. Chickillo is an interesting pass-rusher. Can never have enough of those. I could see Davis at 101. A move back from 131 for a 5th and a 6th. Should be able to get Mason with one of them. We do have Buchanan and Moore. So, de isn't a priority.

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I've not paid any attention to the smaller receivers this year so I'll happily accept your word on that. Chuckle would be absolutely fine. Ben Heeney or maybe Paul Dawson, if he falls, would be good too.

I love Lockett at #101. Joey Mbu the DT from Houston as a UDFA is great IMO as well. Like his story. Collins as our first pick. Not big on that. Makes me harken back to Chris Canty in 1997.

Smelter would be a great project to take on late RD/UDFA. With the Patriots recent history of rehabbing and not being afraid of the once dreaded ACL injury and getting those guys back fast, I like it. Brigham and Womens Hospital is right there on site in the city Kraft created and I think the surgical staff there has gotten to become to be one of the best in the world in overcoming that type of injury. There is an amount of fearlessness to that particular injury that has proven to be not an obstacle to this team.

Can't throw out specifics, I'm no doctor, but they don't seem to veiw it as career ruining. It's almost as if they veiw it as career strengthening.

I'd be happy to see ONE of Jarrett and Marpett available at 64.

Using the simulators has a disadvantage. You end up picking a guy like Collins, knowing that you can get Jarrett and Marpett later.

Do you all really think that Division 3 Marpett is ready to start in the NFL?
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I suspect that we will pick a LT if we stay at 32.

OhExaulted1 said:

Collins as our first pick. Not big on that. Makes me harken back to Chris Canty in 1997.

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Landon Collins is a pretty good player. He won't be a flop in the NFL. I'd take Jones over him. But, we could use a long-term answer at safety opposite McCourty. He'd be our in the box thumper who can prob cover most te's. Also, plays special teams. I don't see any analogies that can be made between Canty and Landon Collins. Curious why you compared him to Canty.

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Do you all really think that Division 3 Marpett is ready to start in the NFL?
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I don't want to go into next season with Marpet as my only answer at LG. I think he can be very good but I do think there's some overestimating of the step up he's going to have to make. He's going from blocking unathletic 240b guys to Suh, Dareus and Wilkerson. That's a lot to expect.

patsfaninpa said:

Landon Collins is a pretty good player. He won't be a flop in the NFL. I'd take Jones over him. But, we could use a long-term answer at safety opposite McCourty. He'd be our in the box thumper who can prob cover most te's. Also, plays special teams. I don't see any analogies that can be made between Canty and Landon Collins. Curious why you compared him to Canty.

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I think the other big factor is we really don't know what type of coverage the Pats are gonna run this season. The luxury of having both Revis and Browner was the ability to play a lot of single deep safety with Chung playing down in the box. The loss of those two will undoubtedly force some sort of change, but exactly what coverage scheme they will run I don't think any of us know.

Collins isn't a Cam Chancellor safety, he can play deep as well as be physical down in the box. I have no doubt he would be an upgrade over Chung and fit in well next to McCourty, the question is if that is worth a 1st round pick. I really don't know without knowing what we are looking for at SS.

I think the similar uncertainty about scheme also makes it difficult to evaluate CB's because we don't know what type of player we are looking for. I don't know if BB knows what he is going to do yet or whether he will decide what fits his players best

manxman2601 said:

I don't want to go into next season with Marpet as my only answer at LG. I think he can be very good but I do think there's some overestimating of the step up he's going to have to make. He's going from blocking unathletic 240b guys to Suh, Dareus and Wilkerson. That's a lot to expect.

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He's going to need some time. Great potential, but to expect him to get selected at #96 and seemlessly come in and take over the LG spot for the defending World Champions is a little to much to think a D3 kid can do. We need some help there if they don't bring Connolly back, but overwhelming this kid may hurt him more than help him.

If he's there at 177 or 219 OK, pull the trigger.

#96 for a kid from Hobart to be our starting LG? I'm not buying that as a wise choice. Taking Zach Moore at #198 from Concordia, I liked that pick. Get him in and get him into the system.

Tell me what you know about Hobart College. You know, enrollment, affiliations, ect. He was squaring off with teams like Vasser, St. Lawrence, Skidmore and Clarkson.

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He's going to need some time. Great potential, but to expect him to get selected at #96 and seemlessly come in and take over the LG spot for the defending World Champions is a little to much to think a D3 kid can do. We need some help there if they don't bring Connolly back, but overwhelming this kid may hurt him more than help him.

If he's there at 177 or 219 OK, pull the trigger.

#96 for a kid from Hobart to be our starting LG? I'm not buying that as a wise choice. Taking Zach Moore at #198 from Concordia, I liked that pick. Get him in and get him into the system.

Tell me what you know about Hobart College. You know, enrollment, affiliations, ect. He was squaring off with teams like Vasser, St. Lawrence, Skidmore and Clarkson.

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I don't think it's fair to compare Marpet and Moore. Marpet has real upside and excellent athleticism - he could be an excellent starter one day. Moore is little more than a long-term backup who you hope might do something. Marpet can be Joel Bitonio - I just don't think he's a lock to be so in year one. I'd still take him at 96 and I'm even prepared to accept that he does really well in camp and can be a starter on day one. It's just that I don't want to risk betting the house on that. I want a backup plan.

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I don't think it's fair to compare Marpet and Moore. Marpet has real upside and excellent athleticism - he could be an excellent starter one day. Moore is little more than a long-term backup who you hope might do something. Marpet can be Joel Bitonio - I just don't think he's a lock to be so in year one. I'd still take him at 96 and I'm even prepared to accept that he does really well in camp and can be a starter on day one. It's just that I don't want to risk betting the house on that. I want a backup plan.

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Bitonio? I think that's a little bit of an overly optomistic comparison on the other end manx. I wish we would have snagged him last year instead of Easley. Holding out hope for Easley, but Bitonio was a Logan Mankins-type rock on that Clev line as a rook. I don't see Marpet doing that. JMHO.

manxman2601 said:

I don't think it's fair to compare Marpet and Moore. Marpet has real upside and excellent athleticism - he could be an excellent starter one day. Moore is little more than a long-term backup who you hope might do something. Marpet can be Joel Bitonio - I just don't think he's a lock to be so in year one. I'd still take him at 96 and I'm even prepared to accept that he does really well in camp and can be a starter on day one. It's just that I don't want to risk betting the house on that. I want a backup plan.

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Obviously, we can continue the discussion about Marpet at 96 at a later time, AFTER we have drafted a LG that could compete for the starting role in 2015. I think that this player will be drafted in the first 70 picks of the draft.

There are lots available at 32 or with a small move up or down. I understand that your Plan A is to move up for Jones. I support that if Belichick thinks that he has a plug-in starter. If not, I agree with your choice of Erving. Also, there are LT's available at 32 that could start.

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Bitonio? I think that's a little bit of an overly optomistic comparison on the other end manx. I wish we would have snagged him last year instead of Easley. Holding out hope for Easley, but Bitonio was a Logan Mankins-type rock on that Clev line as a rook. I don't see Marpet doing that. JMHO.

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Check out Bitonio's combine and Marpet's. They're very similar. And Marpet is a bit of a nasty dude as a blocker too. He's not Bitonio now, but I do believe that's his upside. But I recognise your side of the coin too - there's a fair bit of projection in that analysis.

mgteich said:

Obviously, we can continue the discussion about Marpet at 96 at a later time, AFTER we have drafted a LG that could compete for the starting role in 2015. I think that this player will be drafted in the first 70 picks of the draft.

There are lots available at 32 or with a small move up or down. I understand that your Plan A is to move up for Jones. I support that if Belichick thinks that he has a plug-in starter. If not, I agree with your choice of Erving. Also, there are LT's available at 32 that could start.

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You'll see Clemmings and Fisher very high on my big board along with Erving.