Just a quick reminder

KontradictioN said:

What a strange statement to make. What leads you to this conclusion? The draft has not taken place and the season is still roughly 5 months away.

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We're finally seeing that panic set in from the combo loss of Vereen/Ayers

After this SB win, I get the feeling the balance has tipped. I hear more and more how Brady is the Goat and the Patriots are one of the best teams ever. Brady's performance in the SB, pretty much destroyed anyone who thought his success was due to using deflated footballs. When Bill came out recently about Spygate and how the Patriots camerman was filming in front of 80,000 people, it silenced alot of misinformed haters who thought Spygate meant the Patriots were filming the opponents signals in secret. The media that supported the Patriots all year and especially during the weeks leading up to the SB looked like geniuses compared to the morons that made themselves look like idiots for all their anti Patriots comments.

I shudder to think what would have happened if Patriots had lost this SB like the Broncos lost theirs.

It would have been open season on everything related to the team until Brady and Belichick were gone.

chasa said:

We are due for a down year this year.

After last years title, I'm just going to relax and enjoy this year with no expectations.

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You are absolutely right. The last two times that the Patriots had the bye in Week 5 or before, they went 14-2.

supafly said:

If your version of "down" means not winning the SB, that's one thing, but I think we'd all be shocked with a 9 win season, barring the usual yearly concern for catastrophic injury.

The schedule is probably the easiest it's been since Belichick/Brady started working together. I'd think anything less than 11-5 would be an epic failure, at least under normal circumstances.

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Having to play suh twice a year, the dude goes out of his way to hurt people.

Rex coaches teams specifically to beat the patriots. the bills were a solid team last year, and they got BETTER in this offseason.

the afc east probably wont be an easy 6 wins this year.

First there were the Tuckheads - The irony here is that the team crying about the correct call the loudest is the team that beat the Pats 25 years earlier on a truly bogus call, and at that time that team proudly wore the motto of "if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin" on their sleeves. What a perfect revenge. Their media rep is Jim Nants and he was the first to coin the term Tuck Rule. I laugh in all their faces.

Then came the Spybabies - These clowns are actually split into two subgroups. There are those who whine about the Pats filming coaches signals from the wrong place and those who think that the Pats filmed a practice or something before the Silence of the Rams. I can't do anything but hold my side and laugh in their faces too.

The next step back in the evolutionary process brought us the Asterjerks - Thanks to the senile old fart who forgot that his team went undefeated right after losing a first round pick and being fined by the NFL in 1970, a whole new animal slithered out of the slime. These are the dopes who can't come up with a reason to attach any negativity to, say, the Saints for Bountygate, the 49ers for cheating the salary cap or Jerry Rice breaking the rules by using stickum, but are positive that our SBs are tainted in some way. They just can't come up with an exact reason why. They make me laugh louder and harder.

And of course the Rub-It-Inbreds are the worst - There was some mention of them here in an earlier post. Going back to my thoughts at the time, especially concerning all the crying and moaning about beating up on poor Joe Gibbs, it kept reminding me of listening to the people who didn't want to keep score or keep any standings in LL baseball. I guess the NFL version of that species didn't know that one of the tie breakers is point differential. I laugh at them too, but I feel a little bad for them when I do. They really are clueless.

And now, the true bottom of the chain, the Deflatists - These creatures don't know what the Pats did, but they want them strung up for it. From all appearances, just like with the 2001 taping fable, nothing happened. But, with just a few well placed paragraphs or words here and there, the mediots were able to go for weeks with talk about the Pats cheating. This might be the lowest form of being ever and for them I save my best laugh of all. The one that's so deep that it hurts.

RecoveringCowboy said:

They are in a three way

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Who else here gets excited when they read this?

VectorPrime said:

The problem is that unless we get the full exoneration we deserve we will never hear the end of lies about how the Pats have been playing with tampered footballs for the past 7 years. Because that's what people are already saying. And soon it will become a 'fact', just as people's understanding about CameraGate went from the Pats illegally filming signals on the sidelines for a single game in 2007 to the 'fact' that we've been filming practices and walkthroughs since 2000.

It's just infuriating. Just as our team's reputation was finally beginning to recover from the slanderous accusations brought on by CameraGate and all the damaging lies that came after it and the nation's football fans as a whole were beginning to warm up to the team and to Brady in particular THIS s**t happens and it's all undone. Mike Kensil and anyone else involved in this is a truly selfish man. F**k him. He's the single most damaging enemy to a sports franchise that doesn't involve some South American drug cartel.

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As Indy fan David Letterman said to (Boston guy) Louis CK "I've been told that a deflated football is worth 40-50 points."

Lighten up. They will never be "exonerated" because they didn't do anything. Everybody knows it's BS, it's a salve for the losers and we have a serious problem with the commissioner.

They won, they stuffed it in the face of the losers in Indy and Baltimore and the rest of the league, that admits they're competing for second place most of the time.

chasa said:

Having to play suh twice a year, the dude goes out of his way to hurt people.

Rex coaches teams specifically to beat the patriots. the bills were a solid team last year, and they got BETTER in this offseason.

the afc east probably wont be an easy 6 wins this year.

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Even with the improved division, which is a certainty, I'd have a hard time seeing more than 2 losses, but you bring up a solid point that the division has improved. I certainly agree that 2/3 of: Bills, Jets, and Dolphins can steal one this year.

One area the Bills and Jets are still lacking is at QB play, though.

supafly said:

Even with the improved division, which is a certainty, I'd have a hard time seeing more than 2 losses, but you bring up a solid point that the division has improved. I certainly agree that 2/3 of: Bills, Jets, and Dolphins can steal one this year.

One area the Bills and Jets are still lacking is at QB play, though.

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And therein lies the entire point of that discussion. You can include Tannehill in that as well. Remember how disruptive Suh was in our game with Det. last year?

Neither does anyone else.

DarrylS said:

Haters are going to hate.. not much you can do about that.

Most folks I know across the country, admit they are jealous of our success...

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Yeah that's what I see as well. I live in Texas and have a mix of Cowboys, Texans and Saints fans, plus the occasional fan of pretty much every other team, including the Pats. There's always that person that throws cheaters out there but for the most part people respect the Pats dynasty. I lost count of all the Saints fans that shook my hand with respect on my walk back to the hotel after that MNF beatdown in 2009.

One of my good friend is a Broncos fan. He was happy to see the Pats beat Seattle and hopeful Belichick and Brady would retire. Respect and envy. That's what I see more than anything.

OhExaulted1 said:

And therein lies the entire point of that discussion. You can include Tannehill in that as well. Remember how disruptive Suh was in our game with Det. last year?

Neither does anyone else.

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Yeah, Belichick has always done a great job of slowing down the most productive players on either side. It's truly an honor to see him coaching so effectively.

supafly said:

Yeah, Belichick has always done a great job of slowing down the most productive players on either side. It's truly an honor to see him coaching so effectively.

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I completely agree but the words "Make them go to Manningham!" will haunt me to the grave.

VectorPrime said:

I completely agree but the words "Make them go to Manningham!" will haunt me to the grave.

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Ugghhh...

I liked the approach and the theory behind it--but yes, it will haunt me almost as bad as SB42. I either read or heard Manningham claim that the equipment guys had debated on a cleat 1/2 size larger for some reason (can't remember why), and that had it gone down that way, he'd have been out of bounds on the catch attempt.

Just think of how close we came to three losses in a row with that Kearse catch! That would've been too much.

VectorPrime said:

The problem is that unless we get the full exoneration we deserve we will never hear the end of lies about how the Pats have been playing with tampered footballs for the past 7 years. Because that's what people are already saying. And soon it will become a 'fact', just as people's understanding about CameraGate went from the Pats illegally filming signals on the sidelines for a single game in 2007 to the 'fact' that we've been filming practices and walkthroughs since 2000.

It's just infuriating. Just as our team's reputation was finally beginning to recover from the slanderous accusations brought on by CameraGate and all the damaging lies that came after it and the nation's football fans as a whole were beginning to warm up to the team and to Brady in particular THIS s**t happens and it's all undone. Mike Kensil and anyone else involved in this is a truly selfish man. F**k him. He's the single most damaging enemy to a sports franchise that doesn't involve some South American drug cartel.

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Guess they'll just have to win again this year to set the record straight once and for all.

Here's something I came up with:

Joe Montana won 4 out of 6 NFCCG (66.6%).
Brady won 4 out of 6 Super Bowls (66.6%).
And 6 of 9 AFCCG (66.6%).

Same percentages, but Brady reached the Championship game three times more, and two more Super Bowls. I wouldn't give up those AFCCG wins against Baltimore and Chargers just to be able to say Brady is perfect in the Super Bowl. Would you really give a chance to another AFC team?

The only issue is it's almost impossible for a quarterback at any skill level to get to two additional Super Bowls in their career, even if he plans to lose once getting there.

So I would imagine Brady is a little bit better for having gotten to six of them.

supafly said:

Yeah, Belichick has always done a great job of slowing down the most productive players on either side. It's truly an honor to see him coaching so effectively.

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It's been an honor to watch him coach this team to 12 division titles, 9 league championship games, 6 SB appearences and 4 World Championships in 15 seasons. Remarkable and historical are the only words I can come up with to describe it.

Steve Belichick was smiling from up above when Bill gave The President of the United States a thumbs down yesterday, and that's not a political statement. I thought it was genuinely funny.

OhExaulted1 said:

And therein lies the entire point of that discussion. You can include Tannehill in that as well. Remember how disruptive Suh was in our game with Det. last year?

Neither does anyone else.

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Do remember how disruptive cameron wake is every time we play him? No add in Suh on the other side of the line.

chasa said:

the afc east probably wont be an easy 6 wins this year.

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It almost never is.

chasa said:

Do remember how disruptive cameron wake is every time we play him? No add in Suh on the other side of the line.

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That would make the DL about as strong as the one Detroit had that NE handled last year. Wake has some dominant performances, but he has plenty of games where NE makes him look average. I recall Solder dominating Cameron in Nate's first NFL start back in 2011.

Oswlek said:

It almost never is.

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It's actually remarkable to see how many posters seem to underrate divisional games every year, which I suppose is easier to understand when you stand back and look at the sheer dominance they've had.

Still, I'm not sure if I've ever personally taken a divisional game for granted. Those are situations where you can narrow the gap that the individual records may insinuate. After all, we've seen 1-14 teams beat 14-1 teams (2004 Dolphins game) within the division.