Tom Curran gives some much overdue respect for Nick Caserio

Rob0729 · Apr 16, 2015

I think everyone overlooks Nick Caserio's contribution to this team. When Pioli was here, all the personnel moves were credited to Bill and Scott. Since Caserio took over the same role as Pioli had, Belichick gets all the credit (granted considering some of the complaining on certain moves, Caserio might be happy to defer all the credit to Belichick). It is nice to see someone in the media give Caserio his due.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/caserios-success-often-overlooked

Galeb · Apr 16, 2015

Rob0729 said:
I think everyone overlooks Nick Caserio's contribution to this team. When Pioli was here, all the personnel moves were credited to Bill and Scott. Since Caserio took over the same role as Pioli had, Belichick gets all the credit (granted considering some of the complaining on certain moves, Caserio might be happy to defer all the credit to Belichick). It is nice to see someone in the media give Caserio his due.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/caserios-success-often-overlooked

I'm a huge Caserio fan. He's much more than just a "front office guy" and he's dreamy too.

patfanken · Apr 16, 2015

Caserio is going to make someone an OUTSTANDING GM one day (hopefully it will be the Pats). There are very few guys who have the kind of mulit-level experience that he's had since he came into the league. He's done it all in the scouting department, as a coach, and lately as a contract and cap guy. He has also gotten to see "team building" at it's best over the last 14 years, and I think that is THE most difficult thing for a GM to do well consistently. More that any other professional sport, football requires just as much "chemistry" as talent to create winners

Next time you come to TC, take the time to watch Caserio work with the players (usually receivers). You'll find the interaction interesting

As long as Caserio has the typical "patriot ego" we have a chance to keep him long term. Clearly, at least so far, Kraft and BB have done a good job of keeping him feeling important. I'm hoping that He and McDaniels will be satisfied to wait another 2-5 years before BB decides to hang them up, and it will be the Josh and Nick show, just like in college. Won't THAT be something.

fnordcircle · Apr 16, 2015

Galeb · Apr 16, 2015

patfanken said:
Caserio is going to make someone an OUTSTANDING GM one day (hopefully it will be the Pats). There are very few guys who have the kind of mulit-level experience that he's had since he came into the league. He's done it all in the scouting department, as a coach, and lately as a contract and cap guy. He has also gotten to see "team building" at it's best over the last 14 years, and I think that is THE most difficult thing for a GM to do well consistently. More that any other professional sport, football requires just as much "chemistry" as talent to create winners

Next time you come to TC, take the time to watch Caserio work with the players (usually receivers). You'll find the interaction interesting

As long as Caserio has the typical "patriot ego" we have a chance to keep him long term. Clearly, at least so far, Kraft and BB have done a good job of keeping him feeling important. I'm hoping that He and McDaniels will be satisfied to wait another 2-5 years before BB decides to hang them up, and it will be the Josh and Nick show, just like in college. Won't THAT be something.

Caserio has already been extended through 2020. It would appear that he is the heir apparent.

patsinthesnow · Apr 16, 2015

R. Kraft
Belichick (GM)
Belichick (coach)
Brady
-------------
J. Kraft
Caserio
McDaniels
Garoppolo

The second age, whenever it happens, is all set.

Soul_Survivor88 · Apr 16, 2015

patsinthesnow said:
R. Kraft
Belichick (GM)
Belichick (coach)
Brady
-------------
J. Kraft
Caserio
McDaniels
Garoppolo

The second age, whenever it happens, is all set.

Speaking of Josh.... I like him a lot, but he has many detractors outside of NE. I heard he did a long of things wrong in Denver to piss people off. Do you know if he has a great relationship with the Patriots front office?

patsinthesnow · Apr 16, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Speaking of Josh.... I like him a lot, but he has many detractors outside of NE. I heard he did a long of things wrong in Denver to piss people off. Do you know if he has a great relationship with the Patriots front office?

No idea, but remember, Josh was a 33-34 year old during his time in Denver. I'll never forget his obnoxious fist pumps when he beat BB. Clearly he's changed since then.

JayNM · Apr 16, 2015

patsinthesnow said:
R. Kraft
Belichick (GM)
Belichick (coach)
Brady
-------------
J. Kraft
Caserio
McDaniels
Garoppolo

The second age, whenever it happens, is all set.

Not trying to open a pandora's box here and hijacking the thread altogether, but i don't trust McD to takeover. Actually, IMHO, Patricia may be better as a future (very far away future,hopefully) substitute for BB

kudzif · Apr 16, 2015

patfanken said:
Caserio is going to make someone an OUTSTANDING GM one day (hopefully it will be the Pats). There are very few guys who have the kind of mulit-level experience that he's had since he came into the league. He's done it all in the scouting department, as a coach, and lately as a contract and cap guy. He has also gotten to see "team building" at it's best over the last 14 years, and I think that is THE most difficult thing for a GM to do well consistently. More that any other professional sport, football requires just as much "chemistry" as talent to create winners

Next time you come to TC, take the time to watch Caserio work with the players (usually receivers). You'll find the interaction interesting

As long as Caserio has the typical "patriot ego" we have a chance to keep him long term. Clearly, at least so far, Kraft and BB have done a good job of keeping him feeling important. I'm hoping that He and McDaniels will be satisfied to wait another 2-5 years before BB decides to hang them up, and it will be the Josh and Nick show, just like in college. Won't THAT be something.

How can you make such an assessment.No one honestly knows his contribution except those in the inner circle and i'm sure they are not talking, and most Gm's have multi level experience so he is not special in that regard.The honest assessment is that no one honestly knows how good he is except Bill, and i doubt Bill sat down to give his assessment of Caserio to Curran.

shmessy · Apr 16, 2015

Galeb said:
I'm a huge Caserio fan. He's much more than just a "front office guy" and he's dreamy too.

The day of the inconsequential last game of the season against Buffalo it was announced how he signed a contract extending him through the 2020 season. That was GREAT news. Keeping Caserio long-term was very underrated (and underreported) news.

Other than that, every time I see him I think of Lady Elaine Fairchilde.

shmessy · Apr 16, 2015

kudzif said:
How can you make such an assessment.No one honestly knows his contribution except those in the inner circle and i'm sure they are not talking, and most Gm's have multi level experience so he is not special in that regard.The honest assessment is that no one honestly knows how good he is except Bill, and i doubt Bill sat down to give his assessment of Caserio to Curran.

They put out a press release to announce that they signed him to a 6 year contract extension through 2020.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...ector-player-personnel-nick-caserio-extension

"......Caserio signed a contract extension with the Patriots that runs through the 2020 season, according to NFL sources, a deal thought to be the single longest front-office contract in the NFL.

Any questions?

Soul_Survivor88 · Apr 16, 2015

shmessy said:
They put out a press release to announce that they signed him to a 6 year contract extension through 2020.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...ector-player-personnel-nick-caserio-extension

"......Caserio signed a contract extension with the Patriots that runs through the 2020 season, according to NFL sources, a deal thought to be the single longest front-office contract in the NFL.

Any questions?

Nuff' said

Galeb · Apr 16, 2015

kudzif said:
How can you make such an assessment.No one honestly knows his contribution except those in the inner circle and i'm sure they are not talking, and most Gm's have multi level experience so he is not special in that regard.The honest assessment is that no one honestly knows how good he is except Bill, and i doubt Bill sat down to give his assessment of Caserio to Curran.

Caserio not only coaches, he watches film and he's a spare arm in preseason. The guy has studied every aspect of football under the direct tutelage of BB. Few GMs, if any, have had the breadth and depth of NFL exposure that Caserio has had. The only thing Caserio lacks is experience with other teams and systems.

Gumby · Apr 16, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Speaking of Josh.... I like him a lot, but he has many detractors outside of NE. I heard he did a long of things wrong in Denver to piss people off. Do you know if he has a great relationship with the Patriots front office?

Gee, doesn't that sound AN AWFUL LOT LIKE the resume of that one-time coach of the Cleveland browns after his FIRST HC gig????

PS: can you please at some point, when the novelty has worn off, take a diet pill on the sig pics. There are some great shots there, but we don't need to see them after every comment forever.

The Brandon Five · Apr 16, 2015

Gumby said:
Gee, doesn't that sound AN AWFUL LOT LIKE the resume of that one-time coach of the Cleveland browns after his FIRST HC gig????

PS: can you please at some point, when the novelty has worn off, take a diet pill on the sig pics. There are some great shots there, but we don't need to see them after every comment forever.

Gumby-you can change your settings in User CP to not show sig pics in posts.

PatsWickedPissah · Apr 16, 2015

The Brandon Five said:
Gumby-you can change your settings in User CP to not show sig pics in posts.

Yeah, I'm gonna hafta do that

Soul_Survivor88 · Apr 16, 2015

Gumby said:
Gee, doesn't that sound AN AWFUL LOT LIKE the resume of that one-time coach of the Cleveland browns after his FIRST HC gig????

PS: can you please at some point, when the novelty has worn off, take a diet pill on the sig pics. There are some great shots there, but we don't need to see them after every comment forever.

I know. Belichick is the GOAT of second chances for NFL Coaches. No dispute there my friend!

Believe me, I want McDaniels to be a successful head coach - even if he doesn't stay around long enough to take over for Belichick. But some of the stories about his personal traits kinda raises eyebrows, and I wonder if he would be able to thrive with the responsibilities that Belichick has

These reporters/commentators recall his tenure with the Broncos

And this page from Grantland.com recounts McDaniels all the relationships that were ruined by McDaniels .

Nothing against McDaniels personally.Hs's a great OC and my favorite contender for Head Coach, but he has to learn from his mistakes before taking over the reins...and I mean really really learn lol

Gumby said:
PS: can you please at some point, when the novelty has worn off, take a diet pill on the sig pics. There are some great shots there, but we don't need to see them after every comment forever.

How's that? Better?

Ice_Ice_Brady · Apr 16, 2015

How about some much overdue disrespect to Scott Pioli. I'm not saying he's not a great GM, but come on, he was rated the #1 GM for the 2000s (I think it was by ESPN or SI or both) throughout all four major sports. Clearly that was a huge reach; his success was bolstered to an enormous degree by Belichick.

NormZauchin · Apr 16, 2015

kudzif said:
How can you make such an assessment.No one honestly knows his contribution except those in the inner circle and i'm sure they are not talking, and most Gm's have multi level experience so he is not special in that regard.The honest assessment is that no one honestly knows how good he is except Bill, and i doubt Bill sat down to give his assessment of Caserio to Curran.

I think that since Caserio replaced Pioli as Belichick's right hand man in evaluating talent, the Patriot drafts have improved measurably.

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