Aaron Hernandez found guilty of first-degree murder

I loved AH the player. He is so so smooth on the field. And still very young.

It is disappointing because he had so much to offer on the field. Off the field, he was clearly a very putrid person. But I am still sad he decided to make such ridiculous choices.

Its a shame hernandez had to be stupid and throw his life away. Patriots would have had the best TE combo in the league for years to come.

I guess that's what it feels like to be a Jet Fan. Life without SB Win parole.
Seriously It's a shame on all fronts. Young lives wasted and everyone involved suffers.

Rob0729 said:

So much for that snarky Rolling Stone article that claimed that there was no chance he would be convicted for murder and could be back in the NFL in three years.

Glad to see the jury could see that he was clearly guilty. I still don't get the defense only giving a handful of witnesses and going for this "Hernandez was too high on Angel Dust to kill Lloyd" defense from out of the blue.

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Saw members of the jury being interviewed today. they were quite impressive. Apparently, they hung their verdict in part on Robert Kraft's testimony.

Couple points of fact.

He doesnt need to appeal. It is automatic with this judgment. Will happen anyway.

The district attorney did not need to prove he pulled the trigger. His charge was based on organizing and being present. If he had handed thr gun to one of his associates and that was on film he epuld be just as guilty.

An opinion.
I dont believe the patriots have any greater claim for salary cap relief based on this.
There can be a case made for the other earlier crime. I believe the timing of this prevents any claim. If there is a claim it would be related to the clause that says there is no reason the player eould be unavailable. The earlier crime would create sn argument since the player eould know he might be caught for the crime he had earlier committed.
However I think the nfl would be extremely hesitant to grant any relief. I would guess that they would urge patriots ownership not to force that decision.

AH is one black hearted, ignorant, arrogant Mother F×××××. He looked as if he wanted to kill everyone in that court room for disrespecting him by finding him guilty.

My favorite part was watching his "dame" break down sobbing. What a piece of work she it. I assume the lawyers will use liens on the house to put her out on the street by tonight. I hope the DA goes after her for perjury on the stand.

enjoy prison food for the next 50 years

I gotta laugh at the notion....No murder weapon! How many hours transpired from the shooting to Hernandez doing his t-shirt stroll?

Maybe we could dig up Lloyd and see if he's really dead.

I watch Dateline, 48 Hours, Paula Zahn, Forensic Files, and pretty much every murder/courtroom show out there, so I consider myself an expert on all of these things (kidding.) But, they are actual trials, and many of the defendants I've seen are convicted on much less evidence than Hernandez. Circumstantial evidence is very powerful, and physical evidence is not always needed if the circumstantial evidence is strong enough. I've seen cases where there was no actual murder proven (no body) yet someone is convicted; I've seen cases where there is no circumstantial or physical evidence but someone is convicted simply because it couldn't have been anyone else. I am certainly no expert on court evidence, but I personally though there was an extremely strong case against Hernandez and that he had about a 99% chance of being convicted. The one thing I take from watching jury interviews is that they use common sense and not some kind of math formula of doubt/liklihood ratio.

http://patsfans.com/salary-cap/?p=1640 is my latest blog on Aaron Hernandez's salary cap implications.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

I watch Dateline, 48 Hours, Paula Zahn, Forensic Files, and pretty much every murder/courtroom show out there, so I consider myself an expert on all of these things (kidding.) But, they are actual trials, and many of the defendants I've seen are convicted on much less evidence than Hernandez. Circumstantial evidence is very powerful, and physical evidence is not always needed if the circumstantial evidence is strong enough. I've seen cases where there was no actual murder proven (no body) yet someone is convicted; I've seen cases where there is no circumstantial or physical evidence but someone is convicted simply because it couldn't have been anyone else. I am certainly no expert on court evidence, but I personally though there was an extremely strong case against Hernandez and that he had about a 99% chance of being convicted. The one thing I take from watching jury interviews is that they use common sense and not some kind of math formula of doubt/liklihood ratio.

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Did any of them have big money lawyers?

neuronet said:

Wasn't following trial. Those that did, does this verdict surprise you?

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The prosecution's case was mostly circumstantial (apparently the Boston case is much stronger) and I'd hear some legal consultants felt it was weak. I started to get a bit nervous when the jury was out so long but no, I'm not surprised.

I thought Aaron's reaction was interesting. He didn't flinch when the verdict was read but over the next few minutes it seemed to hit him he wasn't ever going home.

A legal expert was on WEEI before the trial began and was asked about how strong the circumstantial case could be against Hernandez.

He said that circumstantial evidence can go a long way in a trial. In fact, many times prosecuters prefer circumstantial evidence over eyewitness accounts.

Witnesses can lie.

OK, theory wise, was Lloyd in on the double murder, or did Aaron just start gobbing off about it to him, and felt, being a sociopath, that the best way Lloyd could be kept quiet was by death?

As for the case, if you drive some guy to an industrial estate, everyone blows him away, then you go back and partaaay with the guys who just killed your mate, then any jury with a brain is going to think you are complicit.

Let the scumbag rot

Ivan said:

I am amazed you had the time and interest to attend that entire trial.

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I honestly don't see why you would say this. Just cause I did not go everyday or watch every witness testimony doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. IMO he is clearly obviously guilty slam dunk no question. I think every reasonable person would saw the major pieces of evidence would think the same.

When you stop and think about this, it is very sad. This guy had it all and he threw it away. Shame on him.

Miguel said:

http://patsfans.com/salary-cap/?p=1640 is my latest blog on Aaron Hernandez's salary cap implications.

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Typo alert

but not for the Odin Lloyd conviction but for the double murder conviction of the Danny Abreu and Safiro Furtado homicides is ungrammatical and also lacks a period at the end.

I've got to give myself credit - as I think I posted the day of closing arguments here and on PFT, I felt that Hernandez's attorney "jumped the shark" when he bizarrely informed the jury in closing arguments that his client was not only at the scene, but witnessed the murders

This after spending the entire trial arguing that he WASN'T at the scene. After Hernandez insisted to Kraft in a bogus and incriminating alibi that he wasn't at the scene.

If what transpired had been left to the jury's imagination Hernandez likely would have gotten off in my opinion. Once his attorney opted for that very odd legal logic, with numerous inherent paradoxes, I felt it was more plausible to the Jury that he DID do it, than he didn't

I felt that was the pivotal moment and sure enough it was

Locked away forever...love it