Two head coaching changes since 1993. 11 Super Bowl visits.

1) In the same off-season that we drafted Tom Brady, we fired the head coach (Carroll). His very next NFL job? A GM and Coach who took his team to 3 Super Bowl visits, including back-to-back.

Any other fan base would be complaining right now if their team let such a coach ago. Jets would be laughing at us right now, even though they fired Pete immediately before he joined the Patriots. In fact, let's take time to feel sorry about losing Carroll, since he's done a lot over the recent years.

2) Moving on, we somehow outdid Pete. We replaced Pete with a head coach who took us to 6 Super Bowl visits so far, including winning back-to-back, not just visiting the big game. And, he also beat Pete head-to-head in one of the visits, the guy he replaced. How awesome!

3) Twenty teams right now are being lead by head coaches who are Super Bowl virgins -- they have never brought a team to a Super Bowl before. But for Patriots, our last two head coaches alone lead teams to 8 Super Bowl visits, just in the last 14 years. Add the one prior, who was hired in 1993, and our last three Patriots head coaches have 11 Super Bowl visits on their resumes!

4) What were Belichick and Carroll's last NFL jobs before leading the Patriots? They were both named the head coaches of the Jets. Both had very short stints of under a year in NJ and have flourished since.

5) Parcells went the other way to disastrous results. He left the Patriots head coaching job to join the Jets. He has never visited the Super Bowl again in the next non-consecutive 11 seasons in the NFL, barely ever making the playoffs as either head coach, GM, or consultant.

6) Oh... and did I mention we also drafted Tom Brady that same off-season we upgraded at head coach?

The point is, the Patriots have a hard time topping any past off-season. Or how about the year when we got McCourty and two awesome TE's skilled enough to compete for best TE in NFL history, such that Moss felt he was no longer special? Or signing Revis, Butler, Browner, and Blount last season? So let's do the best we can and keep up the fight!

That reads as one HELL of a resume for Robert Kraft.....

Considering he was the owner during all of these great coaches tenure(s).....lets just hope the last one there continues to add to that impressive SB number

Holmgren was the coach of the Seahawks in 2005. Pete didn't get there until the 2010 season. But otherwise, point taken.

Carroll is also another example of a coach who didn't necessarily excel in his first (or second) chance, but developed into an excellent coach. It's why I still believe Josh will get there.

The Tom Coughlin connection is also interesting. He and Belichick were coaches for the Giants two SB wins and then met two times in the game when TC became the Giants HC.

Why muck it up with those other guys? Here's what the Pats have done with Belichick and Brady:

2001- SB winner
2002- 9-7, missed the playoffs on a week 17, last game tie-breaker
2003- SB winner
2004- SB winner
2005- won the wild card game, lost to Denver in the divisional
2006- won the divisional at San Diego, lost AFCCG to Colts
2007- SB loser
2008- 11-5... Brady out... again, week 17 tie breaker
2009- lost to Ravens in wild card
2010- lost to Jets in divisional
2011- SB loser
2012- beat Texans in divisional, lost to Ravens in AFCCG
2013- beat Colts in divisional, lost to Broncos in AFCCG
2014- SB winner

That, my friends, is a record that explains...

...why everyone hates us. LOL

convertedpatsfan said:

Holmgren was the coach of the Seahawks in 2005. Pete didn't get there until the 2010 season. But otherwise, point taken.

Carroll is also another example of a coach who didn't necessarily excel in his first (or second) chance, but developed into an excellent coach. It's why I still believe Josh will get there.

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I've always been a big fan of Josh McDaniels just about as long as he's been around with the Pats. I'd love to see him stay long enough to become HC, and hopefully Belichick will give him that chance someday.

The paper industry and football have little in common. It's impressive that Kraft has been so successful in both.

1) Each of the last three Patriots head coaches now have multiple visits to the Super Bowl on their resume, while 63% of current head coaches never lead any team there at all.

2) All three men were trusted in a very rare role - dual Head Coach and GM. All three did this only after becoming Patriots head coaches, and not before.

3) In all three cases, being the Patriots head coach was the last or current NFL job when they were promoted to a dual HC and GM title (Parcells - Jets, Carroll - Sehawks, Belichick - Patriots).

4) To emphasize how rare that is, Carroll and Belichick still hold these titles; Chip Kelley is the only other dual HC/GM in the NFL right now.

5) All three of our last three head coaches since 1993 are still in the NFL, two as a dual HC/GM and one as a special consultant.