Boston Globe declares the Sox still own Boston

1. Pats - As a kid, all sports were in my blood, but football was one of my favorites (along with baseball). There were very few times in my youth when I ran into someone on a football field and they didn't go backwards. I still find myself leaning as a RB pushes the pile. The current Pats team has been payback for the 4o+ years of frustration we had to deal with. I also like the idea of local ownership.

2. Bruins - Oddly enough, I grew up in a city that was known as Hockeytown USA, but I didn't learn to skate until I was in my early teens. I preferred street hockey. But I loved the Bruins then and I still do. But I don't get as worked up as I did as a kid. I remember feeling like I could jump through the screen and hit someone on the other team. The only negative has been Jeremy Jacobs.

3. Celts - The NBA is much worse than it was back in my early days. It's like one long 3 point shooting contest now. Red Auerbach had it right. They should give you an extra point for getting the ball to the basket, not for taking a longer shot. In spite of it all I still sit down to watch games a few times a season. Once again I like the local ownership

4. Wow, where do I begin? I grew up with baseball in my blood. I can still smell the oil as I stuck a new glove over the handlebars of my bike when I headed down to the park. I also remember going to a Sox game and seeing #4 Jackie Jensen in right field. However, I hadn't been to a game for many years when I got tickets to six games last year. I gave most of those games away and in the one game I attended I realized that my decision to dump the Sox and MLB was the right one. I'm not sure if the breaking point for me was the strike, Manny Ramirez or the fact that the Sox decided to bring the Queer Eye For the Straight Guy cast in for a Sunday family day game. The owners were also given the team by Selig over a local group. That didn't help at all.

If any of those first 3 teams owned a newspaper they could be looked at in a much better light. And I don't think they'd be taking shots at the other teams if they did.

Nothing bothered me more than the fact that the Pats were in the midst of what turned out to be the greatest run of any team and the longest winning streak in NFL history, and all the talk was about ARod coming to the Sox

I know plenty of baseball die hards and even most of them didn't care about the Red Sox last season. There is definitely an older generation that have the Red Sox square in their hearts based on what the team did in the 60s and 70s when these people were kids. For those people that will always be the case and won't change. It will be different for this current generation. Based on the popularity of the NFL and the number of special moments over the years, good and bad, I think the Pats are going to be the team that the current generation of fans will most remember.

Looking anecdotally at my own kids, I think they know more soccer players than they do baseball players, and I watch neither sport at home. Does a baseball video game even exist anymore? I don't know because my son has never asked for one. He does ask for Madden and FIFA games though since that is what his friends are playing.

IcyPatriot said:

The Red Sox have 1 million Twitter followers vs the Patriots 1.31 million ...
just 1 piece of info favoring Patriots.

Red Sox have 4.92 million Facebook likes
Patriots have 6.02 million Facebook likes

Again 1 more piece of info favoring the Patriots.

MLB has 6.06 million Facebook likes
NFL has 11.99 million Facebook likes

The NFL in general more popular than MLB.

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I found this interesting that the Celtics alone have 8 mil likes and the NBA has 26. Must be world wide that gets em because NBA definitely isn't more popular in the US.

One "expert" weighs in, who in this instance I agree with.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/sorry-boston-red-sox-fans-football-is-our-king

VectorPrime said:

I would gladly trade away the 3 World Series Championships over the past 11 years just for one more chance at the final minute of Super Bowl 42 without any guarantees of success. Without hesitation.

God I can't stand baseball or the Red Sox

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Yea, I really can't stand watching baseball anymore.. I played the sport for 9 years growing up, all star teams, Jimmy fund league etc. . It was fun to play but brutally boring to watch, especially when there really is no salary cap on baseball and all the top market teams just buy up all the talent.

Tunescribe said:

One "expert" weighs in, who in this instance I agree with.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/sorry-boston-red-sox-fans-football-is-our-king

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must have felt pissing off the die hard sox fans would be more fun than pissing off the die hard pats fans.

fourhour said:

When did that happen? A #2 pre-season football game is in August and the baseball playoffs are in October!

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Could be wrong but im guessing they meant the viewer ratings were higher for a Patriot preseason game of bubble players than the ratings for a red Sox playoff game

Brady_to_Moss said:

If/when pats start losing..they should still be #1 like they are now. If baseball shortens it's games and cuts some games out..it MAY make a return to #1

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that's another reason it's so difficult to watch or care for baseball.. aren't there like 180 games a year? They could lose 20 games in a row and still be fine for playoff contention.. there is no sense of urgency, the games individually don't have a lot of weight behind them to get excited for..

Football, every single game is edge of your seat, sweating bullets level of entertainment. Every single game matters immensely, as the 11-5 season where we missed the playoffs emphasized

1960Pats said:

1. Pats - As a kid, all sports were in my blood, but football was one of my favorites (along with baseball). There were very few times in my youth when I ran into someone on a football field and they didn't go backwards. I still find myself leaning as a RB pushes the pile. The current Pats team has been payback for the 4o+ years of frustration we had to deal with. I also like the idea of local ownership.

2. Bruins - Oddly enough, I grew up in a city that was known as Hockeytown USA, but I didn't learn to skate until I was in my early teens. I preferred street hockey. But I loved the Bruins then and I still do. But I don't get as worked up as I did as a kid. I remember feeling like I could jump through the screen and hit someone on the other team. The only negative has been Jeremy Jacobs.

3. Celts - The NBA is much worse than it was back in my early days. It's like one long 3 point shooting contest now. Red Auerbach had it right. They should give you an extra point for getting the ball to the basket, not for taking a longer shot. In spite of it all I still sit down to watch games a few times a season. Once again I like the local ownership

4. Wow, where do I begin? I grew up with baseball in my blood. I can still smell the oil as I stuck a new glove over the handlebars of my bike when I headed down to the park. I also remember going to a Sox game and seeing #4 Jackie Jensen in right field. However, I hadn't been to a game for many years when I got tickets to six games last year. I gave most of those games away and in the one game I attended I realized that my decision to dump the Sox and MLB was the right one. I'm not sure if the breaking point for me was the strike, Manny Ramirez or the fact that the Sox decided to bring the Queer Eye For the Straight Guy cast in for a Sunday family day game. The owners were also given the team by Selig over a local group. That didn't help at all.

If any of those first 3 teams owned a newspaper they could be looked at in a much better light. And I don't think they'd be taking shots at the other teams if they did.

Nothing bothered me more than the fact that the Pats were in the midst of what turned out to be the greatest run of any team and the longest winning streak in NFL history, and all the talk was about ARod coming to the Sox

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Arod played for the Sox?

lulz.. shows you how committed I am to MLB

Besides the on field product of baseball putting people to sleep, how about the whole team building aspect of the MLB compared to the NFL?

MLB:

Some teams spend 200+ million, some teams spend 80 million or less. WTF?

40+ rounds in the draft, you won't see the players play for years. The #1 overall pick in 2012 is in AA baseball this year. On top of all that, players don't sign. The Astros drafted someone #1 last year who didn't sign....ok?

NFL:

Salary cap that despite what some claim, rewards teams who manage it well and punishes teams that don't.

7 rounds in the draft. The players in the first 3 rounds should make an impact their rookie year. Rounds 4-7 and UDFAs still make teams and even make game winning championship plays their rookie year. A rookie wage scale no longer screws teams financially with top picks.

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I don't know baseball, but in the NFL any franchise can become a contender through the draft and signing economical FAs (Patriots, Seahawks, Packers, Ravens, etc.) regardless of market size. The New York Jets, Dallas Cowboys, and Washington Redskins have been crap for some time. That's awesome. They can't buy their way to the playoffs or bail themselves out with bad drafting, etc.

JarOfMayo51 said:

Arod played for the Sox?

lulz.. shows you how committed I am to MLB

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Almost but never happened

JarOfMayo51 said:

Arod played for the Sox?

lulz.. shows you how committed I am to MLB

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Too bad the Sox fans lost out on him, I think

The 2003 Pats team is one of the greatest of all time, and all the ARod talk was in the middle of the longest winning streak in NFL history.

The most recent bs from the Red Sox Globe is a combination of 3/4 pathetic and 1/4 sad

A couple of observations from sports radio this weekend that helps to prove this is clearly a Patriots town.

First on Sunday morning, WEEI had NFL Sunday on in the morning rather than the Baseball Show. A day before opening day.

Second, I heard on Saturday one of the host talk about how he needed to get to the Red Sox because it was 15 minutes before his shift ended and Monday was opening day. So with two days before opening day and a radio host spent 3 hours and 45 minutes talking about Patriots, Celtics, and Bruins and ignored the Red Sox. Ten years ago, Red Sox talk dominated the airwaves no matter the season. Now they are an afterthought.

I am probably typical of my generation. When I was throwing a baseball up against a brick wall of the Franklin Field projects, I not only knew the starting line up of the Sox, I probably knew every OTHER American League team as well.

The Celtics were an early love as well. One of my Uncles was a season ticket holder and my Dad had a 2nd job working a concession stand at the Garden, so I saw a lot games during the Russell era. Later because of a friendship with a former Celts player, I played on the Celtics FO tag football team, so I was around the team in a very tangential manner during the Bird years.

Hockey required skates and equipment and those were budget breakers in my youth, so I never played hockey until I was in HS, though I played quite a bit in college in local leagues, and went nuts with the "big bad Bruins" in the late 60's and early 70's like the rest of the town. I actually worked in bars where I had to throw out Wayne Cashman (a good drunk) and Gerry Cheavers (not so much) on a regular basis. And yes, Bobby Orr was a gracious and nice guy even then. I actually knew Derrick Sanderson socially, and I don't know what stories you've ever heard about him, but odds are they were true. But another remarkably nice guy.

Football was always my personal love, because I played and coached the game. I was in the 7th or 8th grade when the Pats were founded and my dad took me to a couple of games that year. 10 years later I actually got to play for early Pats icons like Bob Dee and Ross OHanely with the Quincy Giants. In my 40's I played the Pats front office in tag football under the lights at Sullivan Stadium, or whatever they were calling it then. A very cool experience even as I remember it now. My roots were deep in the Pats long before BB led us out of the wilderness

There is no question that this town is all about the Patriots now. How could it not be, given the disparity between 16 and 162 games. But if were truly honest, I'd have to say that World Series win in 2004 was by far the most meaningful emotional and important one. I guess 86 years is just a lot longer than 3o something. Maybe you'll understand it better if I explain it this way.

Think about how you felt after losing the 2 superbowl games.....without ever having those superbowl wins......and almost every time you lost in the playoffs.....it was against the Jets (Yankees) And it happened over and over again until you grew to expect it....... until one day it didn't. THAT was what the 2004 world series win meant to this area. The Pats have the best fans, and how they came out to the parade this winter is a great testament to that. However people didn't go out to cemeteries and talk to gravestones like they did after 2004.

Its kind of interesting that perhaps its the recent Sox wins in 2007 and 13 have made it easier to shed the remnants of our baseball love. I barely follow the game until September and only then if they are in the race. But its like the other teams. It's always better if a local team is in their sport's playoffs. But I'll live if they get knocked out. Sometimes I wonder when the Pats lose their last game.

Brady_to_Moss said:

Why will Boston always be a baseball town when numbers prove otherwise? More people watch Pats #2 preseason game in the boston area then a red sox playoff game...

People that say it's always a baseball town need to post some facts for it to be true

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Your question falls apart due to the fact that the number of games make the comparison meaningless.

Anyone who seriously thinks ratings would be maintained during a 162 game NFL season is stupid. It's already been noted that Thursday Night Football suffers because of too many games on during the week.

Pre-season will get high ratings because nobody has seen it in months and well over 100 baseball games have been played.

I didn't read all the posts but since Henry owns the Boston Globe and the Red Sox why am I not surprised

If the Globe prints a paper in the middle of a forest and nobody is around to read it, does it really exist?

patsfanincleveland said:

Your question falls apart due to the fact that the number of games make the comparison meaningless.

Anyone who seriously thinks ratings would be maintained during a 162 game NFL season is stupid. It's already been noted that Thursday Night Football suffers because of too many games on during the week.

Pre-season will get high ratings because nobody has seen it in months and well over 100 baseball games have been played.

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I thought Thursday night football ratings suffered because the Nfl Network isn't a part of a basic cable package. With Comcast, you need to order a premium sports package to get it, which is one of the reasons the nfl and Comcast were battling it out in court... and Comcast won.

Shows you how powerful Comcast is when they can go head to head with the nfl in court and win

JarOfMayo51 said:

I thought Thursday night football ratings suffered because the Nfl Network isn't a part of a basic cable package. With Comcast, you need to order a premium sports package to get it, which is one of the reasons the nfl and Comcast were battling it out in court... and Comcast won.

Shows you how powerful Comcast is when they can go head to head with the nfl in court and win

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Ratings were well below initial forecasts. Bad games played a part as well a general apathy. Thursday games were actually the first step towards games going proprietary on NFLN. Now they are going to CBS.....hopefully, with better games.

If the NFL had a 162 game schedule.............how many games would you watch? Do you think some who watch Sunday would not?

If there was as much football on TV as baseball.......football would have lower ratings. The carnage of failed spring football efforts prove that.