Here it comes: The Jets Agenda

OhExaulted1 · Apr 1, 2015

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...i-ngata-could-return-in-2016/#comment-4150152

And so it comes to pass. PFT, in it's ever striving agenda to write NFL news has now latched on to the "Tampering is no big deal" point of veiw to save the pathetic Jets from the punishment they deserve.

This IS ridiculous because owners are talking about players WHO JUST EFFING SIGNED WITH ANOTHER TEAM LESS THAN A MONTH AGO. Apparently PFT can't understand the difference between players under contract that weren't even eligible to be recruited with impending FA on the horizon or someone in the distant future who's playing somewhere else under a contract which will be honored for the year he's signed or he can't play because the team that JUST SIGNED HIM OWNS HIS RIGHTS.

This is the most recent and blatent attempt to minimalize Woody's obvious transgression and now PFT is their new avenue to forward this agenda. Disgusting on so many levels. I'm getting pissed. We should be getting a draft pick swap from them PERIOD, and the longer the LO lets it drag on the more they'll have the chance to weasel out of their rightful punishment.

Goodell has a slim chance to do what's right, if he effs us with this.......and then #FrameGate........

My blood is beginning to boil.......

Rob0729 · Apr 1, 2015

Florio is the champion of the tampering is a big deal agenda. One of his underlings just went rogue. Florio thinks the Jets should get punished and it is a big deal.

Tunescribe · Apr 1, 2015

Rob0729 said:
Florio is the champion of the tampering is a big deal agenda. One of his underlings just went rogue. Florio thinks the Jets should get punished and it is a big deal.

I think Florio should be punished for being himself.

IcyPatriot · Apr 1, 2015

If you don't click the links there is no drama ... the tree falling in the forest thing ........

Sewer gases always manage to seep out of NY/NJ - there's no cure for the problem - it's chronic.

OhExaulted1 · Apr 1, 2015

Rob0729 said:
Florio is the champion of the tampering is a big deal agenda. One of his underlings just went rogue. Florio thinks the Jets should get punished and it is a big deal.

The problem I have with this Rob is the LO is obviously monitering that site and this kind of minimalizing could have an effect. We need, as Patriot Fans, to voice our own STRONG objections to the conversation, lest we become the quiet victims of obvious hypocrisy.

I'm not on the "we should get the #6 pick" ha-ha in your face bandwagon, but if they continue with this commentary it could effect what should be a consistent and justifiable decision based on previous precedents into a convoluted distortion of what should be a clear and salient determination based on factual evidence.

Why is this taking so long? The Falcons and Browns cases have been cleared off the board. 2 cases involving the Patriots remain unresolved. Why is that? (and that's no shot at you man, I'm just getting the feeling like we're going to get screwed).

OhExaulted1 · Apr 1, 2015

IcyPatriot said:
If you don't click the links there is no drama ... the tree falling in the forest thing ........

Sewer gases always manage to seep out of NY/NJ - there's no cure for the problem - it's chronic.

The LO clicks those links every day. The Amazon looses an area the size of RI every year. I don't hear it, but I know it's happening.

Koma · Apr 2, 2015

Now that the teflon Ravens are involved in a tampering situation, there's no way the league is going to increase the punishment for that violation over what the 49ers and Chiefs received. The Patriots will be lucky if they get to swap 6th round picks with the Jets in 2016.

I shouldn't be surprised, but I can't believe that the Jets, Patriots, and Ravens tampering comments get painted as the same:

"Darrelle is a great player. I'd love Darrelle to come back." - Woody Johnson, 3 months before that player could become a free agent.

"We wanted to keep him. We wanted him in our system...We had hoped it worked out. It didn't. ... But as a fan, and in March and April, I hate to lose him." Bob Kraft, a week after losing Revis to free agency.

"Steve Bisciotti doesn't rule out the possibility of Haloti Ngata returning to Baltimore after this season. Will be a free agent in 2016." - Ravens twitter

Of these three, only Kraft is talking about a player who has just left his team. With Johnson and Bisciotti's comments, there was/is a chance that Revis and Ngata would/will become free agents. For Kraft to fit the pattern of the others, he would have had to have said "I want to bring Revis back." Even if he did say that, Revis just signed his new contract. He's at least 3 years from possibly trying to get a new deal.

Tampering isn't a very exciting topic, but it should be pretty easy for people to see that one of these situations is different from the others.

OhExaulted1 · Apr 2, 2015

Koma said:
Now that the teflon Ravens are involved in a tampering situation, there's no way the league is going to increase the punishment for that violation over what the 49ers and Chiefs received. The Patriots will be lucky if they get to swap 6th round picks with the Jets in 2016.

I shouldn't be surprised, but I can't believe that the Jets, Patriots, and Ravens tampering comments get painted as the same:

"Darrelle is a great player. I'd love Darrelle to come back." - Woody Johnson, 3 months before that player could become a free agent.

"We wanted to keep him. We wanted him in our system...We had hoped it worked out. It didn't. ... But as a fan, and in March and April, I hate to lose him." Bob Kraft, a week after losing Revis to free agency.

"Steve Bisciotti doesn't rule out the possibility of Haloti Ngata returning to Baltimore after this season. Will be a free agent in 2016." - Ravens twitter

Of these three, only Kraft is talking about a player who has just left his team. With Johnson and Bisciotti's comments, there was/is a chance that Revis and Ngata would/will become free agents. For Kraft to fit the pattern of the others, he would have had to have said "I want to bring Revis back." Even if he did say that, Revis just signed his new contract. He's at least 3 years from possibly trying to get a new deal.

Tampering isn't a very exciting topic, but it should be pretty easy for people to see that one of these situations is different from the others.

I think your catastrophizing and playing into their hands a bit Koma.

A swap of 3rds would be justifiable. A swap of 4ths would be acceptible. This year. Don't downplay it. That's playing into their hands. And you know they read our board. I've no doubt about that.

ctpatsfan77 · Apr 2, 2015

IcyPatriot said:
If you don't click the links there is no drama ... the tree falling in the forest thing ........

Sewer gases always manage to seep out of NY/NJ - there's no cure for the problem - it's chronic.

convertedpatsfan · Apr 2, 2015

Well that was a moronic thing to do. I honestly thought Woody was the only owner dumb enough to publicly say **** like that, but congrats Ravens, you have a winner too.

Although I don't think there's a "Jets agenda." You guys give them too much credit. That would require someone intelligent enough to think ahead and actually plan things. There's nobody on the Jets capable of that.

OhExaulted1 · Apr 2, 2015

convertedpatsfan said:
Well that was a moronic thing to do. I honestly thought Woody was the only owner dumb enough to publicly say **** like that, but congrats Ravens, you have a winner too.

Although I don't think there's a "Jets agenda." You guys give them too much credit. That would require someone intelligent enough to think ahead and actually plan things. There's nobody on the Jets capable of that.

Sure there is. They still have this guy:

wizwor · Apr 2, 2015

Woody: “Darrelle is a great player, and if I thought I could have gotten Darrelle for [what the Patriots paid], I probably would’ve taken him,” Johnson said, via the Boston Herald. “And it was our best judgment to do what we did. Darrelle is a great player. I’d love for Darrelle to come back.”

Kraft: “We thought we made a very competitive offer, and I speak as a fan of the New England Patriots, we wanted to keep him, we wanted him in our system,” Kraft said. “And we have certain disciplines. We had hoped it worked out. It didn’t.”

Tamperiing: “refers to any interference by a member club with the employer-employee relationship of another club or any attempt by a club to impermissibly induce a person to seek employment with that club or with the NFL.”

Woody made his statement in December when the Pats and Revis were probably working on an extension. Kraft made his at a time when Revis was under contract for five years. In other words, while Woody's words may have influenced the relationship between employer and employee, it is not possible that Kraft's could have done the same. Woody telegraphs a bid (what the Patriots paid) and outright says he would love to have Revis back.

convertedpatsfan · Apr 2, 2015

OhExaulted1 said:
Sure there is. They still have this guy:

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Goodell and Woody are like Dumb and Dumber. I just don't know which one is Dumb and which one is Dumber.

OhExaulted1 · Apr 2, 2015

wizwor said:
Woody: “Darrelle is a great player, and if I thought I could have gotten Darrelle for [what the Patriots paid], I probably would’ve taken him,” Johnson said, via the Boston Herald. “And it was our best judgment to do what we did. Darrelle is a great player. I’d love for Darrelle to come back.”

Kraft: “We thought we made a very competitive offer, and I speak as a fan of the New England Patriots, we wanted to keep him, we wanted him in our system,” Kraft said. “And we have certain disciplines. We had hoped it worked out. It didn’t.”

Tamperiing: “refers to any interference by a member club with the employer-employee relationship of another club or any attempt by a club to impermissibly induce a person to seek employment with that club or with the NFL.”

Woody made his statement in December when the Pats and Revis were probably working on an extension. Kraft made his at a time when Revis was under contract for five years. In other words, while Woody's words may have influenced the relationship between employer and employee, it is not possible that Kraft's could have done the same. Woody telegraphs a bid (what the Patriots paid) and outright says he would love to have Revis back.

We all know this. It's about PFT forwarding an agenda to minimize the impact it has on the Jest. If they can change the narrative from-'Yup, that's exactly what they did' to- 'Well, everyone does it, so it's no big deal anymore' it's a great way to dismiss any action in light of the glaring precedents set in previous rulings.

It's an article that screams: It's the Patriots, so strip them of fair treatment from the LO so you can set up an over-the-top punishment for something that isn't even true to get get clicks.

PFT knows that the bigger the outrage, the more comments and thumbs down ratings they will get because Patriot fans are still totally engaged because of the reigning champship status. Scroll around the Titans or Buccaneers portion of there site and you'll quickly understand the descrepancy of responses between them and Patriot related news.

zoostation · Apr 2, 2015

IcyPatriot said:
If you don't click the links there is no drama ... the tree falling in the forest thing ........

If I put headphones on while my wife is going ballistic ....... is she really yelling?

50-yard-line · Apr 2, 2015

OhExaulted1 said:
The problem I have with this Rob is the LO is obviously monitering that site and this kind of minimalizing could have an effect. We need, as Patriot Fans, to voice our own STRONG objections to the conversation, lest we become the quiet victims of obvious hypocrisy.

I think you're probably WAY overstating the importance of comments and of the few fans who show up on any given site.

You don't run a 9 billion $ business based on the comments of a few people, and it's just a few people.

In the early days of the internet (mid-90's), this happened a couple of times, where companies moved in a direction based on the feedback they saw on message boards. Bad mistake, they all learned the hard way.

Bad, bad mistake.

The league might take a general pulse, via call-in shows and such, but that's back-burner marketing stuff. To think otherwise is to understand why people who immerse themselves in talk radio or cable news often have no clue of who might win an election.

Tunescribe · Apr 2, 2015

zoostation said:
If I put headphones on while my wife is going ballistic ....... is she really yelling?

Wife-cancelling headphones. Seems like a good marketing idea. Give it a try and let me know if it works for you. Then, run for cover 'cuz you won't be able to wear them indefinitely.

Kontradiction · Apr 2, 2015

Tunescribe said:
I think Florio should be punished for being himself.

He already is. You get a good look at that pipsqueek lately?

Tunescribe · Apr 2, 2015

KontradictioN said:
He already is. You get a good look at that pipsqueek lately?

Calhoun44 · Apr 2, 2015

Tunescribe said:
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Damn, that "dummy" creeps me out. I hate those.

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