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Using Amendola as a notable player when speaking to how good our roster is, well that is sort of like noting your 2002 Kia Sorrento when talking about how rich you are, it is illogical. Especially when the same posters are leaving out Brandon LaFell who had nearly 5 times the production in his first season on the team.
They might drive cheap cars, eat cheap food, etc. but they don't use them as examples of their wealth.Not trying to pick on you, but I think you're using some really terrible analogies. Lots of rich people drive ****ty cars. They drink cheap beer and eat cheap food. Some of them may not earn as much as many people, but they save a lot, and invest it. Judging a person's net worth by their car doesn't really say much.
Warren Buffet drives a 2006 Cadillac. Steve Ballmer drives a Ford Fusion. Jim Walton drives an old Dodge Dakota. Ingvar Kamprad, the creator of Ikea, drives a 15-year old Volvo and flies coach.
You should read "The Millionaire Next Door." It is a surprising look at who millionaires really are. It isn't about how much you earn, but rather how much you save. Athletes are a great example of this, as tons of them earn tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, yet many of them are dead broke within the first decade after their retirement. Meanwhile, many people who earn a fraction of that end up becoming millionaires who retire comfortably because they save up their money, partly by driving ****ty cars.
Listen the fact that posters left out LaFell but included Amendola clearly have a flawed outlook on what matters when evaluating player significance. LaFell had more production as a WR in his first season on the team than Amendola had in his 2 seasons.
Did you read the OP? I see our key offensive skill players listed and Danny 200 is there but not LaFell.Except of course that nobody did that.
Nobody did that.
One more time: nobody did that.
Did you read the OP? I see our key offensive skill players listed and Danny 200 is there but not LaFell.
I don't really have to give you a list I can just tell you Jeremy Kerley had twice the receiving yards as Amendola in 2014.
At the end of the day you can like Amendola all you want I don't give a ****, but stop trying to portray him as something he isn't. He is a mediocre WR who has been productive in 3-4 games of a possible 37 that he has been with the Patriots for. I do not love to to hate him but I'm certainly not going to sit here and talk about a player who was making $6M a season and performed well in at best 10-15% of the games he played. I'm not sure why anyone who is a fan of the team would.He listed four players with an etc. Seriously, that got in your craw?
Exact quote: "He'd take McCoy, Woods, Clay, Watkins etc as much as Gronk, Chandler, Edleman, Amendola etc." Big freaking deal - notice that he also listed Chandler, who's the TE2 and wasn't with the team last year. He was riffing off the top of his head, not driving a KIA to piss you off. He forgot Blount, too, and Brady...
As to your comparison, Kerley started half the games for the Jets and not as the #3 option (Harvin only played 8 games). He had 400 yards and 1 TD, which is about par for his career course.
The guy you love to hate had 3 TDs in the playoffs alone, 2 in a game decided by 3 points and the other in the 4-point Superbowl win. He also made the clutch catches and clutch plays (on ST) that beat Kerley's team both times last season in games decided by less than 3 points, iirc. He's also a MUCH BETTER blocking WR than Kerley, which BB values greatly.
If you'd take Kerley over DA, be my guest. I wouldn't - and it wouldn't be that close, especially now that DA and TFB seem to be on the same page again. If you had asked me in 2012, my answer might have been different, but Kerley's run sideways, at best, since then.
Harvin might be an interesting choice, depending on which Percy shows up (and if it's the good Percy, then Woods will be their number 3), but I can't think of another I'd prefer, especially given the wash-out rate WRs have with the Pats.
And of course, all of this is beside the point. You wanted to get into a brawl again, and so you did.
You know what makes Butlers interception so great is that he was an UDFA making minimum money who stepped up.
You know what makes Butlers interception so great is that he was an UDFA making minimum money who stepped up.
I know I'm going to be called crazy but I wouldn't be surprised if Bills win 11 or more games this year.
I think the teams they will lose to are the Colts and PATS ( may even split with the PATS)
other difficult teams are Texans, Bengals, Eagles, Cowboys but three of those are home games.
This a team with lots of talent and they still have the draft. Rex's Defense is always good and
Greg Roman has the potential to bring a lot of innovation to that Bills offense which has a ton
of talent. Don't underestimate Greg Roman, from what I've read he's very smart, innovative and
his play calling is timely.
The Patriots are every bit as talented as the best rosters in the NFL. They're also better coached meaning the depth players are willing, capable and able to perform the roles of the starters (where required). Sure, they don't perform as well as the starters but you wouldn't expect someone to replace Gronk.I think you ignore the Brady factor and that inflates the value of the other players in your mind, talent is very different from performance or production.
The Patriots have the best QB in the NFL, the overall roster though is not as strong as people want to believe.
Who led a talented roster to an 11-5 record in 2008 and another talented roster to a 10-5 record in 2010. Cassell is a capable QB, he isn't an elite QB but when surrounded with good players he can play in the 12-18 range of starting QBs.
I see a lot if pride, as all fans should have.
QUESTION 1
If Brady were the quarterback of the Bills, and we had an average quarterback, who here thinks that the patriots would be the better team? I don't.
QUESTION 2
If the Bills had an good NFL quarterback (or perhaps one out of the top 10), how close would the Bills be to the patriots as far as overall talent?
CONCLUSIONS
A) The patriots would be favored to win the division, even if the talent were equal. After all, we have better coaching, a better organization, and lots of experience in being a winning team.
B) We underestimate the value of Brady. It is not just that he is a top franchise quarterback. His influence and effect is much more than that. Brady makes every member of the offense better.
And yes, we (and the media) have discussed the WR issue for many years. Brady makes the WR's much, much better than we have any right to expect from their talent levels. Consider how effective Edelman, LaFell and Amendola would be for Seattle or another playoff team. With Brady, they are a star group of wide receivers.
QUESTION 1
If Rodgers were the quarterback of the Bills, and we had Brady as ourquarterback, who here thinks that the patriots would be the better team?
Answer: I think. Patriots, IMO. They have plenty of pieces beacuse they dont have to pay a good QB. And yet I think many of their complementary parts despite good have a paycheck far above their talent as Mario Williams and Charles Clay. To pay for the 20m Rodgers, they would have to cut several players.
QUESTION 2
Again Top 10 QB talent costs a lot. They have to sacrifice talent. Revis is an example. The Patriots has a roster as talented as the Bills (more,IMO) and almost TRIPLE space for use in FA in relation to them next year and only two key players to extend.
CONCLUSIONS
Brady is the GOAT, IMO. But, Edelman is a GREAT WR regardless of where he play. I think it's mutual. Brady makes them better, but they also transform him into a more complete player.
If it were an absolute truth what you said, that only the talent of Brady transform all WR in fantastic players, Boyce, Tyms, Dobson would be stars in the league.
So, we have a better roster than the Bills as long as Brady is willing to pay at 1/2 price.