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IMO Revis is too high on the list, because we got what we paid for -- or rather paid for what we got. He was an elite player, but for $17 million he'd darn well better be. Getting multiyear starters like Vrabel and Ninkovich off the scrap heap is a different level of success, IMO.

On the negative side, I'd distinguish between bad decision and bad result. A. Thomas was a bad decision because he turned out to be much less of a player (and teammate) than expected. But Colvin was a good player and hard worker who just happened to have an awful injury.

Of course, most of the REAL best FA moves have been re-signing their own young players. That's almost never regretted, assuming the player doesn't turn out to be a homicidal maniac or something.
Wasn't Revis just $12 million? His cap hit in 2014 was $7 million and this year it is $5 million.
 
Hon mention: Derrick Burgess. God that guy sucked.

And, oddly, Bill went out of his way to praise the guy several times. Never understood that one.
 
Hon mention: Derrick Burgess. God that guy sucked.

Good call. That may be worse than Starks...paid $2M in 2009...surrendered 3rd and 4th rounder....5 sacks which isn't awful but I remember him getting steamrolled vs the run regularly.

The team actually signed him to a 1yr $1.5m contract for 2010! Not sure what exactly they were thinking.
 
When free agent signings are discussed, makes you realize that despite the noise from the naysayers, things are not all that bad.. certainly more hits than misses.

What is missing are some of the tight end that they brought in and they failed... the names escape me, but there seemed to be an effort to find a new or similar Hernandez...

Jake Ballard is one
 
AD gets wayyyyy too much crap on here. He was a beast his first season and had a big SB. Played well first half of 08 before he got hurt and then never recovered. He wasn't what we expected but he was very good and if someone had recovered the fumble in the SB....
 
Too many good ones for me to choose from but I have a personal worst signing. Udfa Gary Guyton. It's not that he just sucked, it is that he lingered around here for years letting my hate for him grow to unstable levels. Seemed like a good guy but I have never wanted to see someone cut so badly.
 
Too many good ones for me to choose from but I have a personal worst signing. Udfa Gary Guyton. It's not that he just sucked, it is that he lingered around here for years letting my hate for him grow to unstable levels. Seemed like a good guy but I have never wanted to see someone cut so badly.
You have to suck beyond words to run a 4.47 as a linebacker and not get drafted.
 
AD gets wayyyyy too much crap on here. He was a beast his first season and had a big SB. Played well first half of 08 before he got hurt and then never recovered. He wasn't what we expected but he was very good and if someone had recovered the fumble in the SB....

For what we paid...he wasn't even close to worth it
 
Yeah Butler is the uber-binkie now... who doesn't want him to make this incredible jump to playing at a sky-high level at all times?
 
I'll throw a few other names out there for consideration of the best (though not all were part of a championship team, or veteran free agents):

Gino Cappelletti (undrafted)
Stephen Neal (UDFA, was also with the Eagles)
Adam Vinatieri (UDFA, played in Europe)
Mack Herron (undrafted, played in the CFL)
Randy Vataha (undrafted, cut by Rams)
Dan Connolly (undrafted, cut by Jaguars)
Danny Woodhead (undrafted, cut by Jets)
Bobby Hamilton
Bryan Cox (only one season though)
Brian Waters (also only one season)

Besides Cappelletti, there are also a few other AFL-era players like Bob Dee, Jim Colclough, etc.

JMT - Love your post, but it's partially off-topic as not all of them were BB signings..

I think that NEAL, Hamilton, and Woodhead definitely deserve consideration.. So do Vrabel and Ninkovich.
 
I think the worst list is a bit unfair.

For example, the Beisel hate is a bit much. He was signed for a pretty minimal contract. If you take most of our bottom-10 roster guys, made them start at a position you're used to seeing Pro Bowl-caliber results, you'll pretty much get the same thing.

Galloway was a one-year, $1.15M deal. It didn't work out, but it wasn't a bad risk to take, and is pretty much the bare minimum contract for a veteran WR on a prove-it contract.

I understand results matter more than anything and everything to some, but if you make good decisions consistently, good things happen. It's like doubling down on blackjack hands. You're not guaranteed anything, but the odds are in your favour of doing well. Meanwhile, you could hit on 19 and even win a few hands, but the odds are stacked against you overall.

BB consistently makes good decisions. They don't always work in his favour, and it's impossible for them to work out 100%. He's taking low-risk hands and it's unrealistic to expect anyone to hit 100% with those. The Joey Galloways of the world are good decisions, gambling little in hopes of a huge reward. For every failure like Joey Galloway, there's a Randy Moss, for every Shaun Ellis there's a Mark Anderson and Andre Carter.

So I don't mind the Joey Galloway deal. I want more of those actually. I'd rather hit on a $1M guy playing like a $5M guy than pay $7M for a $7M guy who ends up not delivering (Adalius).

People kill Reche Caldwell around here but the guy made minimum money in 2006 and caught 76 passes in 4 years before the Patriots, and 61 passes in 2006 for the Patriots. He had a career year, played way above his expectations, made close to the minimum, and gets made fun of because he wasn't good enough to be a #1 WR despite being paid like a #5 guy. That wasn't his fault, and he actually did way more than he ever had, but results are all that matter.

There aren't a lot of huge FA deals to point to because we generally don't do them. The one I see missing is Leigh Bodden. His first deal was for one year at a pretty low salary on a prove it contract. Once he did, we signed him for 4 years, $22M, including $10M guaranteed and $14M in the first two years. But he was released partway through year 2 and retired.
 
I remember for a # of years we always had an OL we just signed retire in camp. Bill Conaty is one I recall. I think Bob Hallen was another. Rich Tylski?
 
Anthony Pleasant was a pleasant surprise
 
Doug Gabriel. I remember me being very excited about him..and nothing really
 
The Patriots just absolutely killed it in Free Agency in 2001 - They picked up a bunch of solid guys off the scrapheap at Wallmart prices who would play key roles on some dominant teams. This illustrates to me that the Pats dynasty was built, in large part, by their 2001 free agency.

WR David Patten FA
G Mike Compton FA
DE Anthony Pleasant FA
ILB Larry Izzo FA
OLB Mike Vrabel FA
CB Terrell Buckley FA
RB Antowain Smith FA
ILB Bryan Cox FA
OLB Roman Phifer FA
 
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Even some in the recent years that were huge.... Loved what Woodhead brought to us, Brian Waters was an absolute stud on our offensive line...then obviously the dynasty peices from the early 2000s....funny I remember thinking we would go 16-0 again after picking up Haynesworth and Ocho...then both flame out and we still almost won the SB.
 
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