Reiss expects Pats to be fined-deflategate? No farking way

1960Pats said:

1. In spite of seeing it written numerous times, there hasn't been any proof provided that any balls were under-inflated. Did I miss a report by Wells?
2. The delay in the findings has been caused by Wells trying to nail down our globe-trotting QB.
3. I have to say that I'm surprised and disappointed reading Pats fans talking about quitting on our team. It would be one thing if they actually did something wrong, but they've been the victim in this and deserve our support. Hang in there, no matter what the NFL comes up.
4. In the real world a person or team has a legal right to some form of recourse, but not in the NFL. The only way I see that happening, at least by my understanding of the NFL, would be for an individual to file a claim. I think that person could be Tom Brady. He has taken a bigger hit than anyone.
5. What I'm hoping is that Indy was behind this and inflated their balls a little more to make it look worse for the Pats. That could mean that they were the reason that Luck kept sailing passes high.
6. C'mon Pats fans, do the Willie and embrace the hate. You might enjoy it. I know I do.

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1960Pats said:

1. In spite of seeing it written numerous times, there hasn't been any proof provided that any balls were under-inflated. Did I miss a report by Wells?

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VectorPrime said:

I think there's an important distinction that should be made clear here. Unless I'm really missing something this Reiss opinion piece is just that, his opinion. He has heard no new information, he has not heard from any sources, and he is not basing his opinion on something like the general mood of those in attendance or what the general feeling of those in the know is. He's solely talking for himself, which obviously is perfectly fine. But lets not panic about it because it appears to not be based on anything.

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patfanken said:

I once believed that there would be a kind of justice to come out of this, but I no longer believe it. I have come to believe that, unfortunately, the ownership group is made up more of the Irsay'Snyder type than the Kraft/Mara type. I really truly believe that the majority of the league owners have a bead case of Patriot fatigue. Our continued success is ultimately a huge slap in the face to their own management acumen, or lack thereof. EVERY year the Pats trot out another 11-12 game winning season, and another playoff run make their own efforts look small and unimportant.

And NONE of those 32 guys come with anything less that massive egos. The fact is that their panties are in an uproar, and any knock on the Pats and their legacy just makes it just that much easier on them when they have to deal with their own fan bases. So when a fan asks his owner, "why can we be like the Pats?" The owner can smugly say. "Well its just harder to be so consistent when you demand we follow the rules and keep our integrity"

I also think this jealousy from the other owners is marginalizing Kraft as a critical owner. Bob is more like a former speaker of the house, whose party just lost their majority. The cameras and reporters still find him, but he has no real power any more.

Roger Goodell has set out an anti-Patriots agenda that has been carefully being followed for many years now. There is no other reason for what happened in "defflategate". It came from the top, and with Goodell knowing he had support from a majority of the owner. How else could all those well timed leaks keep coming from the league. How else can these "sources" keep appearing and disappearing at will. How else can you explain, after ALL the ineptitude, why Roger Goodell still has a job?

There will likely be no justice n Deflategate. There won't be a revisiting of "cameraplacementgate". There won't be any picks coming our way for the tampering by the Jets. In fact I wouldn't be shocked it the league reprimanded Kraft and took away our 3rd round comp pick.

I've fought the good fight like SO many others here for many years.l But I've come to believe that it was to no good end. I'm beginning to think that our only choice is to own the bad rep and learn to embrace it. We can become the outlaws of the league, the Raiders of the 2010's. Because the alternative is to continue to shovel sh!t against the tide, because its the LEAGUE who is sanctioning the smear campaign

BTW- if it is true an the league wants to save some face and force the Pats to pay a fine, I'd love if Bod took it real personally, and told those jealous hypocrites to stuff it. And he'd be fine to shut down the team and sit out a year, rather than pay a fine, regardless of how small for something they didn't do. Christ Bob, its only money and you can't take it with you

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SacPete1 said:

Very confusing analysis by Reiss who is usually methodical. He states that the league likely won't find evidence of deliberate tampering but will need to levy some penalty for the fact that footballs were used that were proven to be underinflated.
So this would disregard any scientific findings or simulations for how air pressure is affected by weather.
And Sal seemed to be agreeing with him about "some fine" as though this is the idea that is circulating.

Breer indicated a small fine too and along the same lines as Reiss. So once again, facts and findings be damned. Something seems fishy regardless so let's levy a fine. Makes no sense.

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YOUGOTMOSSED said:

It just pisses me off to no end that we're even at this point.

All Goodell had to do in 2007 was bring Belichick and Mangini into his office, sit them down and say "cut the **** right here and now or I'm going to get involved" and then just tell the press that the matter was resolved internally. The press would have lost interest and, other than the rambles of a few conspiracy kooks, this story would have died in a week.
Instead, commissioner dipsh*t decides to make an example of the Pats and, in the process, not only disgraced the league's model franchise but jeopardized the league's anti-trust status in the process. Now, all these years later, we reliving this nightmare with another ****amamie cheating allegation even stupider than cameragate that should have been resolved within two hours after it came up.

It just sucks that this screwed up league keeps needlessly pooping in our punchbowl.

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PatsWickedPissah said:

Yah a bit disappointing that well respected Reiss he has not alluded to the Temperature Pressure relationship while opining on the issue.

As an engineer who made the first post here alluding to PV=nRT I find it incomprehensible that the league with near infinite resources couldn't figure this simple thing out in LESS time than a busy BB preparing for the playoffs did in his "spare" time. So the only 2 things holding this up are (1) machinations to figure out a way to screw the Patriots despite physics and no evidence or (2) figuring out how to handle a league office scandal also involving at least the GM of the Colts.

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CopenhagenPatsfan said:

What Mark Cuban said about the NFL will implode in ten years because the owners are greedy fat pigs getting ready to be slaughtered, sounds more true every day.

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Froob said:

well doesn't really apply here on deflategate. But expanding the playoffs would be a colossal mistake. Cuban knows his stuff.

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Ivan said:

Agree completely. If the league fines the Patriots for deflategate and doesn't give a high pick from the Jets then I will have to agree with the most cynical poster's here that the league is simply out to get them and doesn't use logic or require proof in any issue to sanction them.

I'm of the belief that the league will find no wrongdoing on the part of the Patriots and will fire Kensil and change league protocols for handling game balls. I also believe the league will find the Jets guilty of tampering with Revis and the Patriots will get either their first or second round pick as the sanction. We will see?

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ctpatsfan77 said:

Cuban also knows how to dismantle a championship team par excellence.

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Ivan said:

Agree completely. If the league fines the Patriots for deflategate and doesn't give a high pick from the Jets then I will have to agree with the most cynical poster's here that the league is simply out to get them and doesn't use logic or require proof in any issue to sanction them.

I'm of the belief that the league will find no wrongdoing on the part of the Patriots and will fire Kensil and change league protocols for handling game balls. I also believe the league will find the Jets guilty of tampering with Revis and the Patriots will get either their first or second round pick as the sanction. We will see?

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