Florio: Jets File Tampering charges AGAINST Pats

I've had enough BS in general the last few months I am now coming to a strong conclusion that there are a lot of people out there who are just flat out idiots.

Rob0729 said:

As pointed out by Adam Jones, this could back fire in the Jets' face. If the league doesn't agree with them that the Pats' tampered because Kraft was talking about past when he was part of the team and when they were trying to get him to stay or when he was a free agent, they weaken their defense if they claim what Woody did wasn't tampering by filing this claim. Now they have to admit Woody tampered and hope the punishment isn't severe.

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On Sports Tonight, that clown Hardy blamed it all on the Pats and said the Jets never tampered in the first place.

Umm, I was expanding on, not disagreeing with what you said.

Tunescribe said:

Yup, it's the NFL equivalent of making a crank call to 911.

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More like a two year old stamping his feet and screaming in a store cause he didn't get the toy he wanted.

Scoreboard.

Didn't Whore24 just sign a 6 year deal with the Jest? How does one "tamper" with someone on a 6 year contract?
OK, 6 years from now maybe the Patriots sign Whore24 to a contract and the Jest can scream tampering . I hope not because I never want to see that guy in a Patriots uniform ever again. But, that's just me.

The irony in all of this is that Tampering rules are put in place to protect the interest of the Teams and Team Owners. Players and agents, all things considered, love Tampering because it increases their earning potential and negotiating leverage. It's now to the point where the Owners themselves are the poor saps busy demonstrating to the world how ridiculous and unenforcible their own rules are. The NFLPA must be laughing their asses off at all of this.

I've always felt that the Jets were somehow going to get off with nothing more than a scolding, and this latest just makes it more clear how that will finally come about. If the league had intended to punish Woody for his comments in December, he would have been punished in December... not in March or April. As any good parent will tell you, you have to reprimand the naughty child immediately, not weeks later, or they will not learn any kind of lesson at all; and all the other kids watching from the sidelines will miss the point too.

With all the hemming and hawing, Goddell has put his office in a situation where there can be no productive outcome, other than escalating resentment. The only thing that's certain is that he has lost all control of his owners. The pigs have gotten into the corn, rats are chewing on the electric wiring and the monkey are throwing turds at each other.

Sounds like the league needs to review the rules of tampering.

rookBoston said:

The irony in all of this is that Tampering rules are put in place to protect the interest of the Teams and Team Owners. Players and agents, all things considered, love Tampering because it increases their earning potential and negotiating leverage. It's now to the point where the Owners themselves are the poor saps busy demonstrating to the world how ridiculous and unenforcible their own rules are. The NFLPA must be laughing their asses off at all of this.

I've always felt that the Jets were somehow going to get off with nothing more than a scolding, and this latest just makes it more clear how that will finally come about. If the league had intended to punish Woody for his comments in December, he would have been punished in December... not in March or April. As any good parent will tell you, you have to reprimand the naughty child immediately, not weeks later, or they will not learn any kind of lesson at all; and all the other kids watching from the sidelines will miss the point too.

With all the hemming and hawing, Goddell has put his office in a situation where there can be no productive outcome, other than escalating resentment. The only thing that's certain is that he has lost all control of his owners. The pigs have gotten into the corn, rats are chewing on the electric wiring and the monkey are throwing turds at each other.

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Ehh.... For Goodell, this should be as easy as parenting 101:

One son steals a cookie after being told not to eat a cookie.
The other son eats an apple that he asked for and was told he could have.

The apple eater tells the mother about the son stealing the cookie.
The cookie eater tells the mother that the apple eater stole a cookie, too.

The mother sees that the cookie eater is lying.

Result: Cookie thief gets punished for stealing cookie, and punished (or at least admonished) for lying about brother.

This is almost a rehash of the whole Bill Parcells tampering before the Superbowl in 1997 and then stealing Curtis Martin with the poison pill contract.

Back then the league ruled against the Rats and awarded the Pats four rodent draft picks. I remember the Rats being incensed and felt they had been sorely used. After all the Pats were nobodies, and if the Rats wanted Parcells then they should be allowed to have him, no strings attached.

I think the fact that they tampered BEFORE the game rather than after was not a "bug", it was a feature. They didn't want to see the Pats win a Superbowl since the Rats hadn't won one in so long.

So Parcells joins the Rats, and as his longtime DC, BB follows him there, while the league forces the Rats to compensate the Pats.

Now fast-forward four years and Parcells is getting ready to step down as HC, but the Pats are looking for a new HC and want to interview BB. I don't recall if the Rats formally denied the request, but I think they pulled their "Parcells as consultant" sham that automatically elevated BB to the Rats' HC position, and as a result he wouldn't be available to the Pats.

BB threw the monkey wrench into the gears when he resigned as Rats HC, as he wasn't going to let them force him into a situation he didn't want to be in. It seemed like the Rats saw this as an affront equivalent to them getting penalized for stealing Parcells, so they were going to make sure they got compensated by the Pats for BB, who was on the Rats staff since he was essentially part of the original Parcells heist, as they had been for Parcells.

The Rats saw this as equivalent when it really was anything but. The Pats requested permission to interview BB for HC, a permission normally granted by other teams, but with Parcells the Rats just took what they wanted, regardless, or even because of the harm it caused to another team.

For the Rats to consider both cases equivalent shows just what a cretinous, scummy franchise they are.

It turns out that, by the letter of the contract, the Rats had a legally binding contract, and they could prevent BB from coaching for another team unless the Rats released him from his contract. The price turned out to be the Pats #1 pick, and the Rats extorted it from the Pats.

Now, with this latest tampering charge, it is just the same kind of scummy practice from the same scummy franchise that has a history of acting this way. THIS time however, it doesn't seem like they have a "legally binding contract" to fall back on, and this latest escapade should blow up in their faces.

As mentioned before by others, this is essentially showing contempt for the tampering rules and could (and should) result in a stiffer penalty to the Rats.

I think this Jets tampering charge should stand........when we sign him to a contract in 2019....then it would be the equivelent.

rochrist said:

On Sports Tonight, that clown Hardy blamed it all on the Pats and said the Jets never tampered in the first place.

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Would that be Hardy Har Rar?

Crazy thing on PFT. Absolutely no comments yet. Weird.

= Woody Johnson heading home tonight

OhExaulted1 said:

Crazy thing on PFT. Absolutely no comments yet. Weird.

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I commented and it shows up.

This reeks of desperation. My gut tells me that Woody is lashing out, trying to make the whole thing seem ridiculous because he knows he's about to get blasted.

This will make it worse. The other owners are probably livid at Johnson's antics right now.

Keep in mind that tampering HURTS THE OWNERS.

For the Pats fans wringing their hands over what Kraft said, this type of thing is always said when a great player/fan favorite leaves town. Replay what Kraft said about Welker a couple of years ago, about how bad they wanted to keep him, about offering him a contract that they believe was more than what Denver gave him.

The Cowboys made similar remarks about Demarco Murray. lions said the same thing about Suh. Happens ALL THE TIME.

So Woody's trying to make the whole thing a big joke, which puts Goodell in a helluva position, doesn't it? Either throw out all the tampering rules, after having hit teams before, thus evoking the angry whispers that he's pro-Jet...or smack Woody upside the face now. he might just be mad enough right now to hit Woody even harder...maybe an extra zero at the end of that fine.

Sigh. I figured something like this would happen from the second Kraft opened his mouth.

Mind you, I don't for a second think it actually is tampering, nor am I worried about NE being punished.

What I am worried about is that this gives Goodell the opening to say something disingenuous like "oh, you silly kids. Quit picking on each other and go away" and dismiss both sets of tampering charges. In other words, this gives Goodell the opening to use the bogus charges filed by the Jets to negate the legit ones filed by NE.

CNN headlines tomorrow
"PATRIOTS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM NFL FOR TAMPERING"

Tunescribe said:

I commented and it shows up.

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Mine do to. Except it still says 0 comments and all I see our mine.