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Give us their 6th pick in the draft so we can get one of those pass rushers
 
LOL....the Jets and the 6th pick

*Cough* Vernon Golston *cough cough*
 
Yes, the jets were in violation of the rules. My OPINION is that, unless there was direct contact, the patriots will (and should) receive little or no compensation.

Yep. They'll probably have a pick taken away. 4th - 7th rounder is my assumption.
 
Yes, the jets were in violation of the rules. My OPINION is that, unless there was direct contact, the patriots will (and should) receive little or no compensation.

Clubs are further advised that prior to the beginning of the new League Year it is impermissible for a club to enter into an agreement of any kind, express or implied, oral or written, or promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent or understandings of any kind concerning the terms or conditions of employment offered to, or to be offered to, any prospective Unrestricted Free Agent for inclusion in a Player Contract after the start of the new League Year. Any announcement of an agreement or an agreement in principle by a club or another party, including, but not limited to, a certified agent, player, or media organization may subject the club to a tampering investigation.

The rule is has no requirement of being limited to direct contact.
 
I think the basis for the Patriots filing tampering charges has to be more than just Woody Johnson's comments. Otherwise I doubt they would have bothered. I'm sure the team is well aware they aren't going to get squat in compensation if his comments are all there was to it.

I think there's a very good chance they have something tangible on the Jets in this case and that's what led to the filing.

We shall see.
 
Sal Palantonio said something today that resonated: the owners are partners - brothers, if you will - in this endeavor, and NONE OF THEM want the type of crap Woody pulled.

The Texans should make an off-hand comment about backing up the dump truck for Luck...the Pats should pay the JEST back by whispering to the press about Richardson...it's a BAD situation that gives more power to the player and agent than to the owners. Under that understanding, believe it or not, tampering does not go on all over the place.

The JEST tampered. They did it in Woody's press conference - blatantly and to the letter of the rule. They did it again in leaking their high-level talks about Revis around the Superbowl. And they did it a third time during the legal tampering period, which was NOT legal for Revis, since the Pats had not informed the league that they weren't picking up the $20million option.

The punishment for this should blow the Briggs case out of the water, for all the reasons Ivan has outlined here: HOF player, prime of his career, division rival (arguably their biggest rival).

Let's remember that the Pats got docked a 1st round pick for cameragate.
Let's remember that the Pats surrendered pick #16 in the argument over Bellchick. Not a swap - they surrendered their pick to the JEST. Pick 16. Shaun Ellis.

RG should smack the JEST very, very hard for this one.
 
I think the basis for the Patriots filing tampering charges has to be more than just Woody Johnson's comments. Otherwise I doubt they would have bothered. The Pats aren't going to get squat in compensation if that's all there is.

I think there's a very good chance they have something tangible on the Jets in this case and that's what led to the filing.

We shall see.

It's possible, but my theory is that it's a statement from Kraft/the Patriots to the league that they don't believe the technicality of rules is evenly enforced. Either there is persecution of the Patriots or favoritism of the Jets, and had the league given the Jets a penalty (even just a fine) for Woody's obvious comments right away as they should have done, the Patriots wouldn't have raised the issue. When it was clear the Jets were going to blatantly break the rules and walk on it, I think Kraft decided enough was enough. It wasn't about the size of the infraction at that particular moment, but about the fact that the league seemed to laugh it off.
 
Clubs are further advised that prior to the beginning of the new League Year it is impermissible for a club to enter into an agreement of any kind, express or implied, oral or written, or promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent or understandings of any kind concerning the terms or conditions of employment offered to, or to be offered to, any prospective Unrestricted Free Agent for inclusion in a Player Contract after the start of the new League Year. Any announcement of an agreement or an agreement in principle by a club or another party, including, but not limited to, a certified agent, player, or media organization may subject the club to a tampering investigation.

The rule is has no requirement of being limited to direct contact.
I have said nothing different. BTW, I read your post. There is nothing requiring that the patriots receive compensation. As I have said, I expect the jets to be punished.
 
First Of All I can't stand that Doosh Schefter and g'friend Moretensen with anything they report and they're blatent Pats Haters and can't wait to report anything about Pats that is negative..

If Woody is found to have tampered then penalty should be a No1 or No 2 Jets Pick because when BB came to NE after bein Jets HC for a Min.I believe Pats had to give Jets a No 1 or 2 Pick. We're not talkin about a 3rd or 4th round player here. Revis is clearly equivilent for 1 or 2.
 
While I can certainly understand the cynicism and skepticism regarding Goodell and the league office the one constant throughout this discussion is that those calling for the sanction to be a high draft pick have consistently supported the case with facts and precedent, while those saying it's no big deal and the sanction should be mild if at all have supported it with nothing more than just that statement and Goodell sucks.
 
First Of All I can't stand that Doosh Schefter and g'friend Moretensen with anything they report and they're blatent Pats Haters and can't wait to report anything about Pats that is negative..

If Woody is found to have tampered then penalty should be a No1 or No 2 Jets Pick because when BB came to NE after bein Jets HC for a Min.I believe Pats had to give Jets a No 1 or 2 Pick. We're not talkin about a 3rd or 4th round player here. Revis is clearly equivilent for 1 or 2.

Schefter is definitely not a Pats hater
 
I never understand why people say that without supporting it in any way?
Do you know whose in charge of the decision making?
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Do you know whose in charge of the decision making?
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Which goes right back to what I said the other day, why bother ever discussing any of these issues if that is going to be the response. If someone can make an argument for lesser punishment then by all means make it but the Goodell response is really douchey. It simply means they don't have a response or are too lazy to make their case, either way it's bullsh.t imo. I expect it from trolls and Jett fans but having Patriot fans act that way sucks imo.
 
Before everyone pissed off the league office with blatant tampering during the legal tampering period, I figured the Jets would not have to surrender a heck of a lot for their tampering. Now that the league needs to make an example of someone, I expect a harsher punishment. I still don't expect a first or second rounder without evidence of them contacting Revis, but a third isn't out of the question.
Unless there's evidence that the Jets contacted Revis than I seriously doubt it. All Woody said was he'd like Revis to come back. Every team would like that. Revis wanted to go back home and he'd be stupid not to test the market anyways. Obviously Woody tampered but getting the Jets first round pick is insane. Is there anyone in the NFL world that thinks this is fair punishment? The only people that think the Pats should get a first round pick are Pats fans.

No, that is not "all he said" he said that and he said

1. That he would have signed Revis for the contract that he signed for in NE. That is notifying Revis thru the media that 2 years and 32 mill is not a problem.
2. That they made a mistake in not signing him and the guy who made that mistake is no longer there, I fired him.
3. And to counter the "woody is just too stupid and did not know it was tampering" He was just warned by the league last year regarding comments he made to the media about Desean Jackson.
4. Then to compound the issue, The jets FO leaks internal discussions that the owner is pressing the GM to sign Revis. Not to fix the secondary but to sign Revis. This is reported by Mehta and attributed to jet sources. No public disclaimer is issued even though such a media leak is in itself tampering.
5. The weekend of the Negotiations between the pats and Revis, Mehta once again publishes what the jets offer will be and is only wrong by 1mil of guaranteed money.

The rule makes no allowances for "grades" of tampering. There are three scenarios mentioned,-
A. directly B, thru an agent C, thru the media.

Now as far as damage to the Pats negotiating position.
1. The jets were his#1 team on his list to play for. He said so withing days of signing with the pats, he did not sign there and with the pats only because the jets said they were not interested.
2. Woody's press conference now puts the jets in the drivers seat, with the owner saying a mistake was made, 2 years and 32 mill is no issue, we want you back.
3. Just like last year, when Revis turned down other teams to go to the pats, it could be assumed with reason, that he would prefer to stay with the pats again over any other team than the jets, as long as he was the highest paid corner in the game. The pats were certainly prepared to do so.
4. If Woody said at that press conference that Revis caused him more problems than what he was worth and he was looking forward to a new 'jet age" that did not include Revis, Reviswould have signed with the pats. The only thing IMO that caused him not to sign was the staeement of interest by Woody and the subsequent leaked offer.

I don't think that a switch of 1s is called for either. Too much tampering goes on to punish 1 team so harshly, but this is so much worse than the detroit case where an asst coach made a comment to a media type that that punishment should not be considered as a precedent.
 
Which goes right back to what I said the other day, why bother ever discussing any of these issues if that is going to be the response. If someone can make an argument for lesser punishment then by all means make it but the Goodell response is really douchey. It simply means they don't have a response or are too lazy to make their case, either way it's bullsh.t imo. I expect it from trolls and Jett fans but having Patriot fans act that way sucks imo.
He has a track record up in these parts.
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I don't think that a switch of 1s is called for either. Too much tampering goes on to punish 1 team so harshly, but this is so much worse than the detroit case where an asst coach made a comment to a media type that that punishment should not be considered as a precedent.

The 49ers got caught tampering with Lance Briggs, and even though Briggs decided to stay with the Bears, the punishment was a swap of third round picks.

Considering the Jets blatantly tampered with Revis and Revis went back to the Jets. This punishment should be more severe than the Briggs case. No question about that.
 
Show me an example of Schefter being a Pats hater... I'll wait.

glm seriously I'm gonna go through all post I've written many times and either liked or like mine over both these clowns. Go ahead now tell me his partner Mortensen is pro Pats. Yeah I thought so.
 
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