Patriots pick up some draft picks (compensatory 3rd & 7th)

varjao · Mar 24, 2015

Ok so now we have what , 9 picks?

With the #6 from the Jets we can trade down and get another 3. Is there space for another team in NFL? Kraft could field a Patriots B and put Steve Belichick in charge. That team purpose would be to develop our rookies in real games and of course beat the jests twice a year too.

shmessy · Mar 24, 2015

jmt57 said:
And as it stands right now, the Patriots are in line to pick up three compensatory draft picks in 2016:

- a 3rd for Darrelle Revis
- a 6th for Vince Wilfork
- a 6th for Shane Vereen

The other additions/departures cancel out.

Actually, now a 5th for Wilfork:

Nick Korte @nickkorte
There are two changes to the 2016 compensatory picks based on 2015: Vince Wilfork is now promoted to a 5th and Brice McCain demoted to a 7th

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jmt57 · Mar 24, 2015

redsoxfan said:
Is this true? The descriptions of the "secret" formula that I've seen online say that players that are cut are excluded from the formula. Didn't we technically cut Revis, Wilfork & Browner? Or did we just decline to pick up an option for next year? I'm not really up on all the contract details - just wondering how accurate all the stories are about us getting a high comp pick next year really are?

Technically the Patriots declined the options for these players, as opposed to cutting them.

There is precedent (Stallworth) that when a team does this, it does not figure into the compensatory formula.

On a side note, I fully expect next year that the NFL's competition committee deems that the Patriots have found an unfair advantage, and they push for a rule proposal that the league treat declined options to be be the same as a player being released in regards to the compensatory draft picks formula.

PatsWickedPissah · Mar 24, 2015

redsoxfan said:
Is this true? The descriptions of the "secret" formula that I've seen online say that players that are cut are excluded from the formula. Didn't we technically cut Revis, Wilfork & Browner? Or did we just decline to pick up an option for next year? I'm not really up on all the contract details - just wondering how accurate all the stories are about us getting a high comp pick next year really are?

Accurate

- a 3rd for Darrelle Revis
- a 5th for Vince Wilfork
- a 6th for Shane Vereen

varjao · Mar 24, 2015

Wheelman said:
Moved down 12 picks for Ayers, and 9 picks down for Casillas with potential compensation in next years draft. How do you all feel we made out with those trades?

considering this is not a deep draft like the previous 2, and considering they contributed well in a championship season, I'm not even mad.

Oswlek · Mar 24, 2015

farn said:
Since the 97th must be used, how much do you wanna bet the 96th gets moved ?

The last two times NE had consecutive picks, both were used (Butler/Brace in 2009 and Ridley/Mallett in 2011).

PatsWickedPissah · Mar 24, 2015

A clear indication that we should stop drafting the consecutive picks then

Clonamery · Mar 24, 2015

PatsWickedPissah said:
A clear indication that we should stop drafting the consecutive picks then

Or they're getting better at it............

PatsFan2 · Mar 24, 2015

farn said:
Since the 97th must be used, how much do you wanna bet the 96th gets moved ?

I think the Pats love being at #32 that player wont get a contract that strains our cap. Also they will be some pretty good players in Round 2 not necessarily at #64. So 64 and 96 get us somewhere Mid Second Round we would still have a Third and Two Fourth's and their is not much room in the Inn.

rookBoston · Mar 24, 2015

Clonamery said:
Or they're getting better at it............

No doubt. Ridley and Mallett were both very useful players for us. And assuming Ridley eventually signs somewhere, we might still get a compensatory pick for him.

PatsFan2 · Mar 24, 2015

Lets say the Patriots covet a Particular Player in the First Round. Where does 32 and 64 get us in Round 1?

jah · Mar 24, 2015

PatsFan2 said:
Lets say the Patriots covet a Particular Player in the First Round. Where does 32 and 64 get us in Round 1?

I have no idea what I'm talking about, but probably into the early-mid 20s at best. I say this because off the top of my head, if you want to move up just a couple picks in the late 1st, it'll cost a third or a fourth. 64 is essentially an early third, so we could probably move up more than a couple spots, but nothing gamechanging.

rookBoston · Mar 24, 2015

PatsFan2 said:
Lets say the Patriots covet a Particular Player in the First Round. Where does 32 and 64 get us in Round 1?

The chart says fair value would be #20 overall.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

Ivan · Mar 24, 2015

PatsFan2 said:
Lets say the Patriots covet a Particular Player in the First Round. Where does 32 and 64 get us in Round 1?

19-20

mgteich · Mar 24, 2015

PatsWickedPissah said:
Accurate

- a 3rd for Darrelle Revis
- a 5th for Vince Wilfork
- a 6th for Shane Vereen

Accurate?????

Until this post, there was always a question with regard to the final calculation of compensatory picks. Miguel has never indicated that he could "accurately" determine our compensatory picks two months before the current draft. He certainly doesn't forecast them a year in advance. Even adam will only give an estimate.

SOME THOUGHTS
1) Few understand the exact formula.
2) There are signings in the last FIVE months of free agency that could affect next year's compensatory picks.
3) Contract and playtime detail could affect affect the picks.
4) Whether player make their teams will affect the picks.

CONCLUSION
We will be able to make a better ESTIMATE of 2016 compensatory picks after the season starts.

PatsFan2 · Mar 24, 2015

Thanks for the responce guys.

Bostonian1962 · Mar 24, 2015

Ross12 said:
Didn't see a thread about it so figured I would start one. It's reported from several sources that the Pats received the top overall compensatory pick in the third round (#97), as well as a seventh round selection (#253). This brings their stable to...

1-32, 2-64, 3-96, 3-97, 4-101, 4-131, 6-177, 7-219 and 7-253, for nine total picks. While comp picks can't be traded, the others can, so there's a fair amount of ammo if the Pats want to jump up and grab a guy in the second or third. Otherwise, they'll be taking a lot of players in the first four rounds, which is a good spot to be in with the draft depth this year.

I'll leave you with a nugget from our favorite reporter Benny...

Ben Volin ✔ @BenVolin
#Patriots have 5 picks in the top 100. That doesn't seem fair

Bills, Dolphins, and Jets received NOTHING!

Ross12 · Mar 24, 2015

Bostonian1962 said:
Bills, Dolphins, and Jets received NOTHING!

You have to have players other teams want to receive compensation.

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