Patriots 2015 Off-Seaon Free Agency Rumors

patsinthesnow said:

@SiriusXMNFL: . @GregJennings on finding new team "winning SB not #1 priority. Family, community, & being able to provide leadership is important to me"

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Well, that is what happens when you already have a ring.

Legit concerns about few FA signings given the needs at CB, DL and OL.
We're on to trades.

Oswlek said:

Nope. It highlights the folly of basing a player's ability on a single game.

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Suggested reading for you would be to google Newman and read his benching stories from when he was with Dallas then click on the stories when he was benched by Cin.

PATS68 said:

Suggested reading for you would be to google Newman and read his benching stories from when he was with Dallas then click on the stories when he was benched by Cin.

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I'm familiar with Newman's story. He was actually pretty good in Cincy last year.

Oswlek said:

I'm familiar with Newman's story. He was actually pretty good in Cincy last year.

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Ok explain to me why he made Payton Manning look like he was 25 and when his replacement came in he picked off Manning twice and won the game for them? Denver went after him all game and there was nothing he could do. He couldn't compete and was over matched.

PATS68 said:

Ok explain to me why he made Payton Manning look like he was 25 and when his replacement came in he picked off Manning twice and won the game for them? Denver went after him all game and there was nothing he could do. He couldn't compete and was over matched.

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I don't have to. You've missed the point entirely from the very start. Enjoy your day.

Oswlek said:

I don't have to. You've missed the point entirely from the very start. Enjoy your day.

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No, you made no sense with your point which was pointless and made zero sense. I think you tend to overrate things and don't look at them for what they are. The facts are not on your side and there is a track record of him being benched for poor play for more than one team. According to you he had a good year then why is he a FA and why haven't they resigned him?

PATS68 said:

No, you made no sense with your point which was pointless and made zero sense. I think you tend to overrate things and don't look at them for what they are. The facts are not on your side and there is a track record of him being benched for poor play for more than one team. According to you he had a good year then why is he a FA and why haven't they resigned him?

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Newman is not as bad as you are proclaiming.

Hes not elite. Hes an OK CB2 and fine for xtra DB packages.

http://espn.go.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/tag/_/name/snap-count-analysis

Hes fine for a 1year deal. Good veteran guy to mentor young and rookie DBs. If he gets beat out and is cut at the end of camp then so bet it.

I rated him pretty highly at one point. I haven't watched too many bengals games over past few years to have any insight into his recent form.


Anyone?

PATSYLICIOUS said:

Im thinking "family, community, and leadership" are his code words for $$

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Family's gotta eat!

meatface said:

Jesus fans are acting like this is the first time the Pats havent spent big money infree agency

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It's hilarious

meatface said:

Jesus fans are acting like this is the first time the Pats havent spent big money infree agency

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Brady_to_Moss said:

It's hilarious

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It's a common sense, and understandable, response to the Patriots letting Revis, Browner and Wilfork walk, when keeping them would pretty much have assured (barring injury) that the Patriots were going to be returning to the Super Bowl.

Belichick was able to get Aquib Talib, Chris Jones, Sealver Siliga, Akeem Ayers, LaGarrette Blount, and Jonathan Casillas during the season over the past few years and people are panicked because they don't have their roster perfectly set in the middle of March? It really is ridiculous.

On the other hand maybe their right? Simply signing Revis has doubled the Jets odds at winning the Super Bowl, now they are all the way up to 50-1. And the Patriots have fallen all the way to 7-1, right behind the Seahawks at 6-1 Woe is me!

Deus Irae said:

It's a common sense, and understandable, response to the Patriots letting Revis, Browner and Wilfork walk, when keeping them would pretty much have assured (barring injury) that the Patriots were going to be returning to the Super Bowl.

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Ignoring the fact that resigning Revis would have cost them Wilfork, Browner and more, but that's how life is in Candy land.

Deus Irae said:

It's a common sense, and understandable, response to the Patriots letting Revis, Browner and Wilfork walk, when keeping them would pretty much have assured (barring injury) that the Patriots were going to be returning to the Super Bowl.

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Browner and wilfork, ok....but I really don't think looking at the circumstances there was any way for us to keep Revis. Even McCourty said it, his heart was in NYC. and when woody made it a priority to bring him back he never was returning.

RIpats88 said:

Browner and wilfork, ok....but I really don't think looking at the circumstances there was any way for us to keep Revis.

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If the reports are true, there's absolutely no doubt that they could have kept him.

6 weeks.

6 weeks is how long it takes after Belichick wins a Super Bowl before the Internet GMs feel safe enough to come out of the woodwork and begin second guessing every move and every non-move he makes.

The Patriots get into an actual bidding war with the Jets and what exactly what number guaranteed do they get him at?

17 million?
18 million?
19 million?
20 million?

I wanted Revis back here too, but those kind of guarantee numbers become a Sword of Damocles hanging over the team's head for years to come. I respect Belichick's decision not to have one bad injury holding the future of his team hostage.

Deus Irae said:

If the reports are true, there's absolutely no doubt that they could have kept him.

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While also keeping Jones, Solder, Hightower next year?

JackBauer said:

While also keeping Jones, Solder, Hightower next year?

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Are we really going to fall so far as to play the cap stuff again? As Belichick himself has noted:

Each situation is different and cap space can be maneuvered, as we all know, in a number of different ways.

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http://www.patriots.com/news/2013/01/21/bill-belichick-press-conference-transcript

The cap will be going up, yet again. As of right now, cutting Mayo next year (instead of reworking/cutting him this year) would free up $8m in cap space, Sheard (if he doesn't work out) would be another $5m, and Amendola more than $4m. So, just 3 cuts would net more than $17m on top of what some figure will be another $10m cap jump.