2015 NFL Free Agent Signings Thread

We can no longer use the money to "sign the beasts" for there are no more beasts to speak of..

slash83 said:

I don't think there's any doubt at all we aren't as strong as last year. Even with mayo and Easley set to return the team lost its two best corners and best DT.

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Bob Kraft is proving that he is not Daddy Warbucks. This is how he triples his net werth in
a couple of years.

FreeTedWilliams said:

I can bet you that whoever replaces Revis, Browner, Wilfork, and Vereen are going to be inferior players.

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Losing players is pretty much always about their replacements, because you need those replacements to be at least adequate. That's why losing a Vereen is almost never going to be as big a loss as losing a Revis: it's a lot easier to find an adequate Vereen replacement.

Joey007 said:

We can no longer use the money to "sign the beasts" for there are no more beasts to speak of..

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Plenty of lousy players like Gibson, Dorsey, Chekwea, and Freeny.

Deus Irae said:

There's no way the decision was the right one, if the reports are accurate, because that would mean that it was just a matter of cheaping out on guaranteed money paid in the early years of the deal. When you let a planet player walk over guaranteed money early in a deal, the question becomes whether it was just a suspect decision that can be overcome, or a terrible decision that cannot be overcome.

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If you think signing a fully guaranteed deal ( which is different than standard guarantee deals which are paid as bonuses) of almost 40 million is the right move you are flat out incorrect. Remember this is football. Injuries are 100% going to happen it's just an issue if they will be season ending. Revis would get his money, and his cap hit of almost 20million would be in effect. Yes he was healthy last year but injuries happen to everyone. You can't risk that deal. In addition are you saying you would mortgage the franchise with Revis and risk being unable to resign Solder/Hightower/Jones/Collins. Because that is the reality if we gave revis what he wanted. I don't understand why this doesn't make sense to you. Football is a team sport. Revis is not worth Jones + Solder + HT + Collins

Deus Irae said:

Losing players is pretty much always about their replacements, because you need those replacements to be at least adequate. That's why losing a Vereen is almost never going to be as big a loss as losing a Revis: it's a lot easier to find an adequate Vereen replacement.

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I have followed this team from the very beginning. In each instance that a team regressed, good
players were replaced by inferior players. The current Patriots seem to be following this path.

Rich<3TheWoodhead said:

If you think signing a fully guaranteed deal ( which is different than standard guarantee deals which are paid as bonuses) of almost 40 million is the right move you are flat out incorrect. Remember this is football. Injuries are 100% going to happen it's just an issue if they will be season ending. Revis would get his money, and his cap hit of almost 20million would be in effect. Yes he was healthy last year but injuries happen to everyone. You can't risk that deal. In addition are you saying you would mortgage the franchise with Revis and risk being unable to resign Solder/Hightower/Jones/Collins. Because that is the reality if we gave revis what he wanted. I don't understand why this doesn't make sense to you. Football is a team sport. Revis is not worth Jones + Solder + HT + Collins

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You got just about 100% of this wrong. There's no real use in my further addressing someone who's that wildly off.

The thought of Chung with no Revis makes me cringe lol.

Deus Irae said:

Someone didn't want to spend the money.

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doesnt make any since with how much cap space we currently have.

slash83 said:

The thought of Chung with no Revis makes me cringe lol.

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harmon will play ahead of him.

Deus Irae said:

There's no way the decision was the right one, if the reports are accurate, because that would mean that it was just a matter of cheaping out on guaranteed money paid in the early years of the deal. When you let a planet player walk over guaranteed money early in a deal, the question becomes whether it was just a suspect decision that can be overcome, or a terrible decision that cannot be overcome.

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Sean Gilbert!

Gronkowski123 said:

doesnt make any since with how much cap space we currently have.

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I'm not going there. I'm just pointing to a basic truth. For whatever reason(s), someone in the Patriots organization wasn't willing to pay the money it would have taken to keep Revis. It might work out fine in the end. It might be a disaster. Only time will tell us that tale.

When Alexander, oops I mean Bill Belichick, saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds, oops I mean free agents, to conquer.

Gronkowski123 said:

doesnt make any since with how much cap space we currently have.

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People assume that Revis' team were honest with the numbers they were presenting to the Patriots during negotiations. That's what I inferred from Kraft's jab at the Jets.

Jimke said:

Bob Kraft is proving that he is not Daddy Warbucks. This is how he triples his net werth in
a couple of years.

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If there was no cap, Revis would be a Patriot. Kraft's net worth will increase no matter what happens. The Patriots aren't his only endeavor. Revis' 5/70 is a but some loose change in a piggy bank and absolutely negligable to Krafts empire. The dude's worth 4.3 billion.

With a cap structure to adhere to this isn't about Kraft being cheap, it's about being fiscally responsible to remain compliant and field a full team under league guidelines.

http://www.forbes.com/profile/robert-kraft/

There is a cap. Every player has a value. To imply any player should be sign no matter what the cost if foolish, naive and ignorant to the reality of building a football team.

FreeTedWilliams said:

The losses are starting to really pile up for the Pats:

Revis
Browner
Vereen
Castillo
Ayers
Vince

That's a lot of talent leaving and not much coming the other way.

As of today, the Pats defense is:

Niko, Jones, Branch, Jones
Hightower, Mayo, Collins (nothing wrong with that front seven)

Dennard, Butler, McCourty, and Chung (YIKES!)

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Vince, ayers, vereen and That Tampa linebacker will be easily replaced with players of the same talent, problably better players actually. Revis hurts the most but browner I'm not super worried about.

Some of yall are really jumping off the bridge

Archeryaddict12 said:

Vince, ayers, vereen and That Tampa linebacker will be easily replaced with players of the same talent, problably better players actually. Revis hurts the most but browner I'm not super worried about.

Some of yall are really jumping off the bridge

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In all of this I find not picking up Browners 2 mil option the most perplexing move.

The CB market is super !@#$ed right now. Belichick is not jumping into this mess. Tramon Williams at $7m per for 3yrs? That's a joke. Maxwell at over $10m? Again, a joke. The draft is going to have to be it. If CBs are valued like this, nobody is going to trade a 'bargain' to New England without a great return. People wishing for Jason McCourty should start breathing before they pass out. Not happening.

Sticky Caulk said:

The CB market is super !@#$ed right now. Belichick is not jumping into this mess. Tramon Williams at $7m per for 3yrs? That's a joke. Maxwell at over $10m? Again, a joke. The draft is going to have to be it. If CBs are valued like this, nobody is going to trade a 'bargain' to New England without a great return. People wishing for Jason McCourty should start breathing before they pass out. Not happening.

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That's fine but I would have liked to see them get into the DT market which I think has been a pretty good bargain.