McCourty to stay with Patriots!

Deus Irae said:

You've got that exactly wrong, at least as applied to me. I want the wins now precisely because I do know that success is not a given. Let me put it like this: Rod Rust and **** MacPherson would have been a lot easier for me to sit through if the team had beaten the Bears in 1985.

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Those were the worst sports years of my life. Even Grady Little won some important games...

patfanken said:

Neither deserved the elite level contracts they were seeking and ended up getting, much to the Eagles and Seahawks regret.

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FYI, NE was willing to match Seattle's offer, they just did it too late.

Deus Irae said:

You've got that exactly wrong, at least as applied to me. I want the wins now precisely because I do know that success is not a given. Let me put it like this: Rod Rust and **** MacPherson would have been a lot easier for me to sit through if the team had beaten the Bears in 1985.

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It doesn't have to be "either/or", feast followed by famine.

Belichick's method is working quite well.

Oswlek said:

FYI, NE was willing to match Seattle's offer, they just did it too late.

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If that were true, and I'm not sure it is, it would have been a mistake.

Brit patriot said:

I understand what you are saying, but I believe if you build the franchise on solid ground, and make sure your team is up and around the top (as much as you can, granted) for a significant period of time, then the Superbowl chances will be higher, than if you go the 'free agency, salary cap hell, don't bother drafting a replacement QB, we will just get one later when we dive bomb and hope he is good' theory.

Hey; we all want the same thing anyway, in the end.

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It's difference between people who invest methodically and people who play the lottery.


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shmessy said:

It doesn't have to be "either/or", feast followed by famine.

Belichick's method is working quite well.

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Since it doesn't "have to be" anything, your post is irrelevant to the discussion, and your analogy is ridiculously bad, but thanks for the input.

I'm very happy to hear that Mccourty is staying. 9.5m. Wow I didn't think we would shell out that much, but apparently we did. Now, my mind goes back to Revis. He is a must-sign if we are going to keep one of the best secondaries in the NFL together!

patfanken said:

If that were true, and I'm not sure it is, it would have been a mistake.

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It is, and it may have been. I suspect Deion would have been productive enough to make it all worth while. It probably would have cost 2007, but a SB in 2006 would have made up for it.

Galeb said:

What did, the poop pic?

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Yes, the pic AND the response. Very funny!

Kdo5 said:

I was actually a bit surprised visiting GangGreen, a lot of members seemed to want McCourty over Revis.

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I think they probably now want what they know they can't have. I live in NYC and, believe me, all will be forgiven if they sign Revis. The tabloids down here are playing it as the single, most important signal that Johnson could send to his fan base that he "gets it" and is really going to change how things are done.

Brit patriot said:

I became a fan they year we drafted Drew. I needed a team to support and was told that Boston was full of Irish by my family. Became an obsessive then, even though we weren't great.

I can only imagine how tough watching the car wreck that was the franchise for so many years before would have been! This is why I hate the concept of going 'all in' and saying you 'oh, I don't mind if we are **** for a few years, I want a SB'. It is a sign of a fan who thinks success is a given, and we will just naturally return to the top of the tree. Ask all the other teams who have fallen off a cliff how easy it is to return.

I intend to enjoy every single second of this run.

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Two points:

One, I reject the premise that going all in to, just as an example, keep Revis would mean that the Pats are committing to be "**** for a few years." (I'm not suggesting that you're making that specific suggestion, BTW.) I think the Pats' management team is more than capable of balancing risk and reward short of crap.

Two, as someone who has both witnessed the "car wreck" years (see my user name) and who has also enjoyed the last 15 years immensely, I'd be inclined to forgive the Pats for being a little more aggressive and taking a bit more risk than usual in pursuit of a fifth championship while Brady is still playing at his peak.
Going from three to four was an effort to match records. Going from four to five Lombardi's is an effort to accomplish what no HC/QB combination has ever managed. That might be worth rolling the dice a bit more aggressively than the gang in Foxboro is typically willing to do.

Very Cool! Now lets Lock Up Revis call it a day then we're onto SB50 no 5!

Very happy about this. McCourty is extremely valuable not just because he cleans up, but he is the type of player who will not make the same mistake twice. He might get fooled by a call (let's say a PA), but the next time they show it, he will be on top of it.

I even consider him more valuable than Revis.

So glad that McCourty is back.. I think that he helped the secondary as much as Revis did..

I am a bit surprised that the Pats are letting Browner shop around. Also surprised about them letting Revis go without a contract. That's an automatic 5M in Dead money..

Just heard the football podcast and mccourty himself said that he never called bill to tell him he was signing elsewhere.

Deus Irae said:

You've got that exactly wrong, at least as applied to me. I want the wins now precisely because I do know that success is not a given. Let me put it like this: Rod Rust and **** MacPherson would have been a lot easier for me to sit through if the team had beaten the Bears in 1985.

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The worst part about that game, beside the fact that the Pats didn't have a chance to win, was that it followed the greatest playoff run the NFL has ever seen, at the NYJ, at Oakland and at Miami.

Getting to your point, now that the Pats won the 4th SB, the pressure is off, and no Pats fans should be complaining about our team for many, many years.