NFL.com asks if Brady or Luck is the second best QB in football after Rodgers

Winning Super Bowls and moving the ball better than any other offense in football despite inferior talent just doesn't count for what it used to.

I would think a more appropriate article would be whether or not Brady has surpassed Rodgers, considering Rodgers looked like Ryan Leaf against the same Seattle defense that Brady carved up. But apparently, Luck is the second best QB in football, despite being a turnover machine and playing in an organization that makes every personnel decision to maximize his effectiveness.

At least the comments section provides some living neurons.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...r-andrew-luck-best-qb-after-mvp-aaron-rodgers

The bottom line is, Luck did more with a very average football team than anybody else in the NFL last season.
-Gil Brandt

Yeah Gil, it was such as terrible, horrible, no-good-for-nothing, very bad team that included in Luck's offense TY Hilton, Reggie Wayne, Coby Fleener, and Hakeem Nicks. Way worse than Brady's 2013 team that murdered Luck once again: Julian Edelman, Matthew Mulligan, Aaron Dobson, and Practice Squad Player #3.

Give me Andrew Luck. He's the only quarterback in the league today who has the ability and upside to match Aaron Rodgers' current level of greatness. In fact, if you gave Luck the Packers' coaching staff and cast of playmakers, I'm not sure he wouldn't rival Rodgers' production right now.
-Dan Hanzus

Yes, and I'm sure Brady wouldn't do any better with three all-pro caliber wide receivers and the best offensive line in the NFL. By the way, "current level of greatness" includes falling on your face with the season on the line. The Packers offense was an embarrassment against the Seahawks; they, not the defense or coaching, blew the game.

OK, that said, Brady's brilliant, career-capping moment doesn't make him today's top quarterback. Or even No. 2. Behind Rodgers, I have to go with Andrew Luck. He has all the trappings of a rockstar passer set to rule the league for another 15 years.
-Marc Sessler

Ah, nothing like missing the point of the question by sidestepping who is better and replacing it with "Who's about to be better!!!!!!?" with the pom poms waving. A amazing, once-in-a-generation QB who now has at least 16 INTs in two of his three seasons. How many times have we seen this "genius in the waiting" story before?

What inferior talent are you referring to? Also, Rodgers had a great game vs Seattle considering his injury.

I have no problem if they wanna put rodgers ahead of brady. Not luck though.

What a stupid article. QB'ing in the NFL is more than stats and making plays. Winning often and when it counts matters the most. Rodgers has done that (and should have in the '14 NFCCG). Hes incredible and because of his age, accomplishments and credentials I'm ok in conceding that he is better than Brady (begrudgingly).

But Luck? I think Luck is a great talent but he doesn't have TB's credentials in big games. That is a clincher.

3x super bowl mvp ends any debate.

Rodgers has more talent. No denying that. Luck too.

But Brady just wins. QB is not about talent. QB is about putting your team in the best position to win. That's why we win.

Gronkandez said:

What inferior talent are you referring to? Also, Rodgers had a great game vs Seattle considering his injury.

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Are you kidding?

In the second half, the Packers had four 3-and-outs and two field goals. Four 3-and-outs!!! They just needed a couple of completions to extend drives and they would have won easily.

Inferior talent? I guess I am referring to the fact that, for Brady's receivers and offensive weapons, his statistics are more impressive than Rodgers or Luck. I love Edelman, LaFell, obviously Gronkowski is a superstar, but this isn't an offense that is going to dominate defenses. It requires precision and intelligence.

Rodgers is a hell of a player. But I feel like national folks have gotten in the habit of talking about Brady like he's past his prime. Outside of one throw, Brady probably just played the best game of his life. He was damn near perfect, both physically and mentally.

We have to stop pretending just b/c he's older he's not as good. He's aged like Michael Jordan - whatever he lacks in physical ability compared to his younger self, he makes up in mental acuity.

I would take our weapons over Indy's. That said, no way Luck is better than Brady.

Andrew Luck is really average - he makes incredibly dumb mistakes that a rookie would make, if he's the future of the league like the mediots keep harping on about the league is in for a serious like of HOF caliber QB play once Brady etc are gone!

But I suppose because he puts up good fantasy numbers he must be great right?! Got to love the medias attitude.

Silly puppets

One question how many TD's did Rodgers have against that vaunted Legion of Boom Defense again??? I vaguely remember the Packers kicking FG's quite a bit in the NFC-CG.

Are we still getting mad about this stuff?

Patriots fans are in a lose lose situation when it comes to being respected.

If the pats win it all, We get to deal with people talking about how see tom has weapons, but hes not as good of a qb as luck and rodger and manning, and if they lose oh well Tom just doesnt have weapons, but a better QB would still win.

At this point if those morons and their really bad writing still bother you, STOP giving them revenue by 1.) Reading this drivel, and 2.) Linking to it here, getting addition views for them.

Brady is the best QB in the league. Hands down. No competition. These writers think gaudy stats are the only thing that matters, but the fact is Brady wins. Russell Wilson wins.

If i had to name my top 5 qbs Andrew luck would be lucky to break number 5.

Brady
Rodgers
Wilson
Manning
A group of 2-3 players, one of which is andrew luck.

I do believe currently Rodgers is a hair better than Brady. Though there are some matchups I would still prefer Brady right now over Rodgers.

Rodgers clearly has more talent but he has a bit of that gunslinger mentality in him though less than a lot of other good QBs. He took that ill advised shot over Sherman when he didn't have to and paid. That was not about him being injured just he is use to being able to make that throw 1 on 1 and couldn't help but try it. The game before he wisely stayed away from Sherman. In the NFCCG he felt the need to challenge him and paid and then quickly wised up and ignored him after that but he already cost his team on an easily avoidable mental mistake.

Brady threw at Sherman 1 time underneath and didn't challenge him again. Brady never gave him a chance to make a game changing play. Brady is perhaps the most patient elite QB to ever play the game and does not feel the need to show up guys. He still is currently the better guy to face that kind of D cause you need to out smart them and pick your spots carefully. He made 1 bad throw under pressure and had a great play made off him for an int but made no mental mistakes.

Also IMO it is Rogders/Brady and there is no one else close currently.

At this moment, I would say that the top 5 QBs in the NFL are Brady, Rodgers, Luck, Roethlisberger and Wilson. Brees and Manning fell pretty far this year, and were a bit exposed at this stage in their careers, to the point that if someone were to get bumped from that list I would replace them with Romo rather than either of those guys. Having said all of that, I think that Brady and Rodgers are on their own tier, and that Luck, Roethlisberger, and Wilson are behind them.

If you're looking at Rodgers vs. Brady, it comes down to what's more valued, IMO. Rodgers takes better care of the ball (for the majority of this year Brady had an uncharacteristic habit of making one terrible throw per game), is more mobile, and has a cannon of an arm downfield. Brady is first and foremost *way* more durable, but also reads defenses better and is better hitting his guys on short, quick throws and bullets down the seam.

All in all, I'd say that Rodgers slightly edges out Brady, although that can flip pretty easily depending on how you value durability. In the last two seasons, Rodgers missed half of one of them and ended the other as a shell of himself. That matters a lot, and at a certain point it becomes clear against a player's track record that health is a skill. I can pretty comfortably say, though, that whoever is #3 is a distant third.

Cmmon I know we are all Patriots fans and our view on thid is biased, but Brady has regular season stats, he wins over 70% of his games and if you had to win a game if your life depended on it he's the guy that can get it done. Brady in the clutch that is what separates him over everyone else in the leaguE. Which is why I think he is the best QB in the NFL

Luck - I would have thought was doing quite well. But I need to see transcendent performances to put him anywheres near Brady.

I have seen more hype than performance from Luck so far. The argument "he throws picks cause he has a top notch arm" doesn't interest me at all. Don't throw picks Andrew. Just don't.

One thing is for sure, if payton won the Sb the question would be who is the best .....him or Rodgers. Everyone so eager to say Rodgers was the best last year, he was often quite bad away from GB . Oh yea if they didn't lose to the bills at buffalo they would have had the 1st seed in NFC.

Aaron Rodgers - perennial playoff choker - is not better than Brady.