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Some comments on the comments

1. as the division of labor become more and more specialized it seems to be to be getting more and more difficult to predict the future success of athletes even those who are grouped in the same position group.

What I mean is these days, at DT is not always a DT. Now days you have 2 kinds of DT's, You have the run stuffing, pocket pusher like Eddie Goldman, and then you have the penetrating disruptor best exemplified by Aaron Donald, and we hope Dom Easley. So we are left to wonder if we can get enough of a pocket push from Goldman in a league where the pass continues to predominate. As well as wonder if guys like Hardison and Easley can stand up to run game, if the pendulum starts to swing, as people see the success teams are having in the run game with guy like Lynch, Murray and Bell.

So there is one side of me that wants to roll the dice and see a future with 2 dynamic DT's like Hardison and Easley, while there is another who thinks that we'd be better off with a future DT tandem of Goldman and Easley.

2. OT - I get the feeling that the Pats are very high on Sealver Siliga's development arc, and see a much higher ceiling for this kid than is apparent to the general football world at this moment. I'm not sure who this kid might turn into. Whether he's a shorter Richard Seymour, or perhaps our version of Seattle's Michael Bennet, or something completely different altogether. All I "know" is that I think they think that this kid might turn out to be a special player instead of the solid role player, that most people think of him right now. Call it a premonition.

3. Todd Gurley is becoming more and more intriguing to me at the end of the first round for a couple of reasons. First, I think the pendulum is starting to turn a bit as how teams are looking at the running game. As teams start to go more and more to lighter faster LB's and DLmen, the opportunities to attack them with the running game become more readily available. Secondly Gurley seems like a special talent who could become a true 3 down RB.

The problem I have with picking him is not a question of IF we would be better with him, but "how much better", as opposed to the RB corps we have right now. And is that difference worth the first round pick and the eventual impact the OL or DLman we could have made. It's kind of a delicate balance you have to weigh. As well as the fact that there are more quality RB's available than potentially great DLmen.

But no one said the decisions are easy. The only thing that you can count on is that regardless of who they pick, most of us will think we could have done better. ;)

4. I am fully on board with those who believe our top priorities should be on the O/D lines. We started the process last season with Easley Stork and Flemming, and it's likely to continue into this season. At least that's MY hope.

5. I am also fully on board in my belief that all our key FA's and Revis will return. If I'm wrong then a lot of my assumptions change.

6. My mock draft at this point consists more of where the players play than who they are. I'm not knowledgeable enough yet to add the who to the where, so pardon my vagueness, plus my vision only goes as far as the end of the 4th round.

32. - DT
64. OG
96. DE
98* LB
101*. RB
131* OL

* - These last 3 picks are approximations caused by the vagaries of the comp picks
 
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Let me know what you guys think.

32. Dorial Green-Beckham WR
64. Jeremiah Poutasi OT
96. Josh Shaw CB
98. Tevin Coleman RB
128. Max Valles OLB
162. Marcis Hardison DT
194. Kenny Bell WR

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I would love this draft, addresses several needs. I think some of the guys might not be there such as Coleman and Bell at 98 & 194. Don't think BB drafts DGB. But I would love this draft.
 
Trade #32 to the 49ers for #46 and #79
Trade #96 and #102 to the Rams for #72

#46-Devin Smith, WR
#64-Ali Marpet, OL
#72-Tevin Coleman, RB
#79-Marcus Hardison, DL
#97-Nick Marshall, DB
#132-Zach Hodges, LB
#178-Robert Myers, OL
#215-DeAndre Smelter, WR
#217-Jessie Williams, DL
 
Trade #32 to the 49ers for #46 and #79
Trade #96 and #102 to the Rams for #72

#46-Devin Smith, WR
#64-Ali Marpet, OL
#72-Tevin Coleman, RB
#79-Marcus Hardison, DL
#97-Nick Marshall, DB
#132-Zach Hodges, LB
#178-Robert Myers, OL
#215-DeAndre Smelter, WR
#217-Jessie Williams, DL

That would add an explosive element to our offense. We hit the offense hard in 2011. I think there's a chance we could do the same this year.
 
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I would love this draft, addresses several needs. I think some of the guys might not be there such as Coleman and Bell at 98 & 194. Don't think BB drafts DGB. But I would love this draft.

they'd never waste a 1st round pick on a guy who's been out of football for a year, got kicked off his last team, was said to be "clueless" running routes. Exact opposite of what they'd pick. In the first round? Are you kidding? A guy who threw some female down a flight of stairs. Yeah, sign them up for that. Can't wait until Kraft takes the picture with him.
 
I really have the feeling that were gonna have to draft a safety this year. I really don't like that we might let mccourty walk.
 
I really have the feeling that were gonna have to draft a safety this year. I really don't like that we might let mccourty walk.

This is not a good year to be looking for a safety in the draft.
 
This is not a good year to be looking for a safety in the draft.

It absolutely isn't. But going into next season with Chung, Harmon, and Wilson isn't too promising. Chung had a good season but I think that was a product of the players around him.
 
This is not a good year to be looking for a safety in the draft.

It really isn't. Damarious Randall out of Arizona is the only player that I feel would have any chance of starting from day 1. And even I think that is a long shot.
 
I think we overrate ratings, if that makes sense. When it comes to safeties, we might find one in the 5th round who winds up being a starter. Defensive backs are tough to read. Look at Seattle, half their starting secondary were drafted 3rd round or later. Sherman was a 5th round pick and some consider him one of the top corners in the game.
 
I think we overrate ratings, if that makes sense. When it comes to safeties, we might find one in the 5th round who winds up being a starter. Defensive backs are tough to read. Look at Seattle, half their starting secondary were drafted 3rd round or later. Sherman was a 5th round pick and some consider him one of the top corners in the game.

Our Defense cannot be compared to Seattle. Seattle has a system in which they run the same scheme time in and time out, very seldom do they switch out of their cover 3. The players that they drafted for this system are perfect fits. The tall, physical corners are very hard to throw over and are perfect fits to cover the area they are assigned. Kam is nothing more they hybrid LB. They hit the jackpot with him, seeing how well he's able to cover TE's, RB's, and sometimes even WR's. The most important piece to the success of that entire defense is Earl Thomas. His quintessential ability to play a single high set with such success is everything for them. Just incase you didn't know, Thomas was a 1st round pick (14 in 2010). You can find SS's who will do the job and excel in the later rounds. What you can't find in the later rounds, is a elite safety that you can confidently task to cover the entire backfield all by themselves.

Earl Thomas, Devin McCourty, Eric Weddle, Tyrann Mathieu, and Eric Berry when healthy are the exception, not the norm. Out of 32 Starting FS's in the entire NFL, these are the only 4-5 players that fit that role. All of these players were first round picks except for Weddle. Where in 2007 the Chargers traded the 62nd pick (2nd), 93rd pick (3rd), 167th pick (5th) and a 2008 3rd rounder, to move back into the early second to get him. So clearly they highly valued him. With Mathieu, if it weren't for his troubled college career, he to would have easily gone in the first round. The importance and rarity of a quality FS is extremely under looked by most. You have about the same chance of finding a quality one in rounds 3-7th, as you have finding a franchise OB in the 6th. Just remember, a FS is the QB of the defense. it takes a little more then some God given physical talent, and a coach telling you to go out there and pointing at who to cover.
 
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Our Defense cannot be compared to Seattle. Seattle has a system in which they run the same scheme time in and time out, very seldom do they switch out of their cover 3. The players that they drafted for this system are perfect fits. The tall, physical corners are very hard to throw over and are perfect fits to cover the area they are assigned. Kam is nothing more they hybrid LB. They hit the jackpot with him, seeing how well he's able to cover TE's, RB's, and sometimes even WR's. The most important piece to the success of that entire defense is Earl Thomas. His quintessential ability to play a single high set with such success is everything for them. Just incase you didn't know, Thomas was a 1st round pick (14 in 2010). You can find SS's who will do the job and excel in the later rounds. What you can't find in the later rounds, is a elite safety that you can confidently task to cover the entire backfield all by themselves.

Earl Thomas, Devin McCourty, Eric Weddle, Tyrann Mathieu, and Eric Berry when healthy are the exception, not the norm. Out of 32 Starting FS's in the entire NFL, these are the only 4-5 players that fit that role. All of these players were first round picks except for Weddle. Where in 2007 the Chargers traded the 62nd pick (2nd), 93rd pick (3rd), 167th pick (5th) and a 2008 3rd rounder, to move back into the early second to get him. With Mathieu, if it weren't for his troubled college career, he to would have easily gone in the first round. The importance and rarity of a quality FS is extremely under looked by most. You have about the same chance of finding a quality one in rounds 3-7th, as you have finding a franchise OB in the 6th. Just remember, a FS is the QB of the defense.

I agree which makes the situation with DMac so very intriguing for me. BB knows what he has with him but I guess gambles now on compensation. Unless I am totally misreading things I assume we are talking about 1m-2.5m per year. Not sure if I would have the balls in this situation.
 
I agree which makes the situation with DMac so very intriguing for me. BB knows what he has with him but I guess gambles now on compensation. Unless I am totally misreading things I assume we are talking about 1m-2.5m per year. Not sure if I would have the balls in this situation.

As I said in the defensive blueprint thread, I think it was a mistake not to tag McCourty. Hopefully the Pats know what they are doing, but I wouldn't have taken the risk on the market being hotter than anticipated.
 
I agree which makes the situation with DMac so very intriguing for me. BB knows what he has with him but I guess gambles now on compensation. Unless I am totally misreading things I assume we are talking about 1m-2.5m per year. Not sure if I would have the balls in this situation.

Yeah I know, I didn't think they would let him walk. it just doesn't make sense, especially with the market to replace him in both FA, and the draft being almost non extent. I mean, I love Wilfork, but it would literally be 10 times easier to replace him this off season, then it would be McCourty.

As I said in the defensive blueprint thread, I think it was a mistake not to tag McCourty. Hopefully the Pats know what they are doing, but I wouldn't have taken the risk on the market being hotter than anticipated.

I agree Mayo. The thought of losing him, and not having a decent plan to replace him gives me anxiety.
Someone will be dumb enough to throw him some stupid number. Lets just hope he looks at Benard Pollard wanting out of the Titans so he can "play for a championship contender" will only be a sign for Dmac.
 
As I said in the defensive blueprint thread, I think it was a mistake not to tag McCourty. Hopefully the Pats know what they are doing, but I wouldn't have taken the risk on the market being hotter than anticipated.

I think I am more intrigued than worried. I wonder if they would act the same even if we'd have 30 millions in cap space or if this is really just a move to keep leverage on Revis' option.

Ultimately, I have full faith into BB & Co. and even if we lose DMac and Revis - which I do not believe will happen - I have no doubts that we will have again a competitive - but maybe flawed - team.
 
I think I am more intrigued than worried. I wonder if they would act the same even if we'd have 30 millions in cap space or if this is really just a move to keep leverage on Revis' option.

Ultimately, I have full faith into BB & Co. and even if we lose DMac and Revis - which I do not believe will happen - I have no doubts that we will have again a competitive - but flawed - team.

30 Million in cap space? :(....:/......:) Suh? what would we do? God, that sure would send us bloggers into a reset of our thoughts mode.
Aye at least we would get a decent comp pick in 2016. Cause I can guarantee you, that we won't be replacing Dmac with any FA's of equal quality.

Thats another reason I see a little extra value in the Revis option. Even ie we only get him for 15 and lose him in FA in 16, the comp pick we would get from, if we didn't replace him would be pretty darn high. Not saying I want that to happen by any means, but if it did, at least there might be a little good that comes out of it long term. Where as now, we just lose him and get stuck with a gaping hole.
 
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I think I am more intrigued than worried. I wonder if they would act the same even if we'd have 30 millions in cap space or if this is really just a move to keep leverage on Revis' option.

Ultimately, I have full faith into BB & Co. and even if we lose DMac and Revis - which I do not believe will happen - I have no doubts that we will have again a competitive - but maybe flawed - team.

I'm not crying about the sky falling by any means. I generally agree with this statement by Mike Loyko that the Pats have "contingencies upon contingencies". But it's hard to predict the FA market, and it wouldn't shock me if the market is very strong for McCourty. I don't think the market for Gost is likely to be nearly as strong, and even if it were, I think it's easier to find a serviceable replacement.

Personally I would have tagged McCourty to make sure he didn't reach FA, and would have cut Wilfork.
 
I'm not crying about the sky falling by any means. I generally agree with this statement by Mike Loyko that the Pats have "contingencies upon contingencies". But it's hard to predict the FA market, and it wouldn't shock me if the market is very strong for McCourty. I don't think the market for Gost is likely to be nearly as strong, and even if it were, I think it's easier to find a serviceable replacement.

Personally I would have tagged McCourty to make sure he didn't reach FA, and would have cut Wilfork.

I agree in every way. We could've cut Wilfork to clear the salary cap deadlines, let him test the market, which happens to be extremely strong for DT, them bring him back once we get everyone else's contracts taken care of. Not to mention, putting the tag on Dmac would have gave us extra leverage in a long term negation.

Kenrick Ellis & B.J Raji. Two NT's i feel could be signed for 1/4 the cost of Wilfork, and replaced him with decent success. More so then the Success Durmon Harmon will have replacing Dmac if thats what it comes down too
 
I'm not crying about the sky falling by any means. I generally agree with this statement by Mike Loyko that the Pats have "contingencies upon contingencies". But it's hard to predict the FA market, and it wouldn't shock me if the market is very strong for McCourty. I don't think the market for Gost is likely to be nearly as strong, and even if it were, I think it's easier to find a serviceable replacement.

Personally I would have tagged McCourty to make sure he didn't reach FA, and would have cut Wilfork.

Do you think bb has any chance of getting wilfork to rework his deal? I admit I am skeptical, but feel bb can get a revis long term deal done.
 
From what i recall this past summer Wilfork was asked and did rework his deal. If i remember right he wasn't to happy about it and made his feeling's known to the media and felt he was done wrong by Kraft because he thought his relationship was different and more than just a football player/business deal. So i highly doubt he'd be even willing to hear any kind of mention of the word restructure after all that happened last summer.
 


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