Would Reggie Bush Fit With the Patriots? (Sign the Beast VII)

I agree with Steve, Helu probably makes more sense as he will likely be very cheap

Sorry, I'm irrational when it comes to Vereen, he is my binky. I have no love for Reggie Bush, I agree, I would rather have Helu, I think he has more left in the tank and he has "low mileage".

Bush hasn't lost a step yet imo, he was just injured last season. He doesn't have the mileage/ wear and tear of an every downback and I think he's got a good 2-3 years left.

He said he worked on his speed last off season and you could see it in the pre season and regular season. Check out this run vs Jacksonville



If we limit his touches I don't see why he can't bring that.

I would look fast playing against Jacksonville.

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Helu might be an interesting replacement for Vereen if it comes to that, although he has his own durability questions.

I think that Bush would be a more than adequate replacement for Vereen. It all boils down to contract #'s though in the end.

With our offense, players aren't just plug in and play (or replace). Takes a while to learn this offense. Hell, SV wasn't reliable until his 3rd season. James White may take a while until he's perfectly suited for this offense. Bush would probably take a year to be comfortable in our offense, or he may never be comfortable. I rather have Vereen back, he's a perfect fit, has the blitz pickup perfected, and talent wise, he's one of the top 5 receiving backs in football. He's already at Kevin Faulk status as far as I'm concerned. He was great in the SB. I hope we sign him. Let Ridley walk and draft a power back.

scott99 said:

With our offense, players aren't just plug in and play (or replace). Takes a while to learn this offense. Hell, SV wasn't reliable until his 3rd season. James White may take a while until he's perfectly suited for this offense. Bush would probably take a year to be comfortable in our offense, or he may never be comfortable. I rather have Vereen back, he's a perfect fit, has the blitz pickup perfected, and talent wise, he's one of the top 5 receiving backs in football. He's already at Kevin Faulk status as far as I'm concerned. He was great in the SB. I hope we sign him. Let Ridley walk and draft a power back.

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I think Bush would pick up the passing game well. Hes got a ton of experience.

My question is his durability and ability to pass block/pick up the blitz. Hes not known to be good in that area at all.

scott99 said:

He's already at Kevin Faulk status as far as I'm concerned.

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He put up legit Faulk Like numbers this year and I want him back but he's no Faulk. Faulk did it that well about 10 years straight and was a superstar ST player, ELITE blocker, and an exceptional leader. Belichick has commented several times on how Faulk was one of the best leaders the Pats ever had and probably the most sure handed.

robertweathers said:

I think Bush would pick up the passing game well. Hes got a ton of experience.

My question is his durability and ability to pass block/pick up the blitz. Hes not known to be good in that area at all.

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I'm interested to see how Bush would handle the cold weather. Once it turns to ****, is a historically injury prone player going to be able to carry the slack come December/January? There's no denying he's a fit and a talent.

pheenix11 said:

Bush can't hold Vereen's jock strap. He's one of the most overrated backs ever to play in the NFL.

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Bush is more talented than Vereen by far, and I don't think he's overrated I just think that the media and everyone hyped him up like crazy coming out of college and portrayed him as a 30+ touch a game back and he's just not built that way.

He has amazing speed, quickness and play making ability, but he's been consistently injured throughout his career and is not a work-horse back, hes a complimentary piece that is more of a luxury than a necessity. If some team is going to offer Vereen $3+ mill a year and overpay him, then hes gone.. and we need to realistically consider other options to fill that void for the next 2 years or so until we can groom a new guy.

I think Bush would be able to fill in nicely for 2 years if it came to that, hes a veteran and could get the blocking assignments etc down fairly easily... He's also been on some pretty bad teams throughout his career, so I think coming to a team like NE could really motivate him and push him to that elite level.


I want Vereen over anyone else... but at a reasonable price given his production... but history has shown that teams will try to poach our guys from us and overpay them... just like what happened with Woodhead.. we all wanted Woodhead to stay here, he was a solid contributor for us, but the Chargers got starry-eyed and overpaid. We have to be ready for that same type of situation to unfold for Vereen and have a backup plan, or 2 or 3..

ausbacker said:

I'm interested to see how Bush would handle the cold weather. Once it turns to ****, is a historically injury prone player going to be able to carry the slack come December/January? There's no denying he's a fit and a talent.

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He's not a work horse back and wouldn't be used like one.. Blount/Bolden/Ridley would be performing that north/south power back role in December & January, Bush would just be a complimentary piece to that.

JarOfMayo51 said:

Bush is more talented than Vereen by far, and I don't think he's overrated I just think that the media and everyone hyped him up like crazy coming out of college and portrayed him as a 30+ touch a game back and he's just not built that way.

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On average, Bush has been a 16 touches a game player. In MIA and DET, they slanted his touches more to the run where in NO, they threw to him more. Thats the reality.

JarOfMayo51 said:

I think Bush would be able to fill in nicely for 2 years if it came to that, hes a veteran and could get the blocking assignments etc down fairly easily... He's also been on some pretty bad teams throughout his career, so I think coming to a team like NE could really motivate him and push him to that elite level.

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Thats the knock on Bush- he is substandard at pass blocking or picking up the blitz. Obviously that is very important here. That is a big reason why Vereen sees the field.

JarOfMayo51 said:

I want Vereen over anyone else... but at a reasonable price given his production... but history has shown that teams will try to pouch our guys from us and overpay them... just like what happened with Woodhead.. we all wanted Woodhead to stay here, he was a solid contributor for us, but the Chargers got starry-eyed and overpaid. We have to be ready for that same type of situation to unfold for Vereen and have a backup plan, or 2 or 3..

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I agree. Vereen is the priority but is price-prohibitive. If the team can understand his issues with pass blocking and believe he can improve, is injury-free, something left in the tank AND Bush is agreeable to a 2 year deal @ $1.5-$2m per, he'd be a good CoP back and solid receiving threat out of the backfield.

JarOfMayo51 said:

He's not a work horse back and wouldn't be used like one.. Blount/Bolden/Ridley would be performing that north/south power back role in December & January, Bush would just be a complimentary piece to that.

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Everyone is writing off Jonas Gray. Don't I had him written off and expected him to blow up this off-season. He's been doing and saying all the right things. There is talent there. You don't get 200 in one game if you can't find and hit a hole. He was also that Pats' leading rusher last year...how amazing is that?
Seriously, he's taken his beating like a man, and put it all on himself to do better so that he's never on the outside looking in again - and that was HIS FAULT, according to him.

Sleeper. Pats leading rusher, 4.6 ypc...sleeper...

50-yard-line said:

Everyone is writing off Jonas Gray. Don't I had him written off and expected him to blow up this off-season. He's been doing and saying all the right things. There is talent there. You don't get 200 in one game if you can't find and hit a hole. He was also that Pats' leading rusher last year...how amazing is that?
Seriously, he's taken his beating like a man, and put it all on himself to do better so that he's never on the outside looking in again - and that was HIS FAULT, according to him.

Sleeper. Pats leading rusher, 4.6 ypc...sleeper...

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Willing to bet the farm that unless there are multiple injuries for other RBs, Jonas Gray will be released at latest during the final round of cuts.

Heck. Forget Reggie Bush. The Pats should bring in Demarco Murray and Ndamukong Suh for a look-see, too. Right?

They did get rid of the salary cap, didn't they?

Bringing in Murray would be shocking yet brilliant at the same time that being said I prefer a pissed off AP.
It would extend Bradys career 5 years easy.

hwc said:

Heck. Forget Reggie Bush. The Pats should bring in Demarco Murray and Ndamukong Suh for a look-see, too. Right?

They did get rid of the salary cap, didn't they?

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The assumption by pretty much everybody is that Bush would be less expensive than Vereen.

Bush is soft. When the going gets tough, Bush gets......a hamstring pull. I'm out

50-yard-line said:

Everyone is writing off Jonas Gray. Don't I had him written off and expected him to blow up this off-season. He's been doing and saying all the right things. There is talent there. You don't get 200 in one game if you can't find and hit a hole. He was also that Pats' leading rusher last year...how amazing is that?
Seriously, he's taken his beating like a man, and put it all on himself to do better so that he's never on the outside looking in again - and that was HIS FAULT, according to him.

Sleeper. Pats leading rusher, 4.6 ypc...sleeper...

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Yea i forgot about Gray.. i hope you're right and he becomes a solid contributor for us.. its a contract year for him too so if he can be productive he can make himself some serious money next year