Dr Pain
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.What a steaming pile of anti-educational ********. Bring that crap to the victims of the BP geyser in the gulf states. They're still waiting for their money and other compensation. Do you know how many BP people lost their jobs over that one? I do...They DAMN WELL BETTER NOT give this project to a grad student. Neither should they give it to a physics prof or student.
They should give it to an experienced (>10 year) WORKING mechanical or chemical engineer, with a lot of experience in experimental test methodology.
It's not particularly appreciated in the world, but there is NO compelling reason to get "correct answers" in academia. Nobody gets thrown out of school for getting wrong answers.
That situation is NOT the same in industry. If you give wrong answers, things break, product is recalled, people get hurt or die, and engineers get fired.
THAT's called "motivation".!
What a steaming pile of anti-educational ********. Bring that crap to the victims of the BP geyser in the gulf states. They're still waiting for their money and other compensation. Do you know how many BP people lost their jobs over that one? I do...
Kiss off. I don't owe you anything. You have no sense of the proper use of upper case letters and punctuation marks. In addition, you still haven't answered my question.LoL.
There is NOTHING - not ONE WORD - in that entire post that is "anti-educational". Neither is there anything in that post that is incorrect, when painting in broad stokes.
If you had ANYTHING of substance to offer, perhaps you'd care to point out SOMETHING THAT I SAID, give your assertions as to how it's wrong, and maybe we'd discuss it. Instead of invoking nebulous, irrelevant Red Herrings.
So, how long have you been out of school?
What profession?
They DAMN WELL BETTER NOT give this project to a grad student. Neither should they give it to a physics prof or student.
They should give it to an experienced (>10 year) WORKING mechanical or chemical engineer, with a lot of experience in experimental test methodology.
It's not particularly appreciated in the world, but there is NO compelling reason to get "correct answers" in academia. Nobody gets thrown out of school for getting wrong answers.
That situation is NOT the same in industry. If you give wrong answers, things break, product is recalled, people get hurt or die, and engineers get fired.
THAT's called "motivation".!
LoL.
There is NOTHING - not ONE WORD - in that entire post that is "anti-educational". Neither is there anything in that post that is incorrect, when painting in broad stokes.
If you had ANYTHING of substance to offer, perhaps you'd care to point out SOMETHING THAT I SAID, give your assertions as to how it's wrong, and maybe we'd discuss it. Instead of invoking nebulous, irrelevant Red Herrings.
So, how long have you been out of school?
What profession?
They DAMN WELL BETTER NOT give this project to a grad student. Neither should they give it to a physics prof or student.
They should give it to an experienced (>10 year) WORKING mechanical or chemical engineer, with a lot of experience in experimental test methodology.
It's not particularly appreciated in the world, but there is NO compelling reason to get "correct answers" in academia. Nobody gets thrown out of school for getting wrong answers.
That situation is NOT the same in industry. If you give wrong answers, things break, product is recalled, people get hurt or die, and engineers get fired.
THAT's called "motivation".!
They DAMN WELL BETTER NOT give this project to a grad student. Neither should they give it to a physics prof or student.
They should give it to an experienced (>10 year) WORKING mechanical or chemical engineer, with a lot of experience in experimental test methodology.
It's not particularly appreciated in the world, but there is NO compelling reason to get "correct answers" in academia. Nobody gets thrown out of school for getting wrong answers.
That situation is NOT the same in industry. If you give wrong answers, things break, product is recalled, people get hurt or die, and engineers get fired.
THAT's called "motivation".!
What a steaming pile of anti-educational ********.
Snob. (Reverse snob, actually.)
Experimental physicists know how to measure things. In fact, a large fraction of what they do -- and this goes back at least to Galileo -- is invent data collection and measurement technology and techniques.
And since you're asking for credentials -- I was a physics major most of the way through college, and I have a somewhat above-average knowledge of history of science.
Fencer, "experimental physicist, WITH experience" is absolutely qualified, as would be any "experimental technical field, WITH experience".
"Getting a degree in something" is VASTLY different than "having extensive experience in that field".
You ARE what you DO.
Neil deGrasse Tyson: "... completed a bachelor's degree in physics at Harvard University in 1980. After receiving a master's degree in astronomy at the University of Texas at Austin in 1983, he earned his master's (1989) and doctorate (1991) in astrophysics from Columbia University. For the next three years, he was a postdoctoral research associate at Princeton University," (wikipedia)
One might think that, with all this training in physics, with the core importance of temperature & pressure to cosmology, that Dr. Tyson would be a valid "expert" on this question.
One would be gravely mistaken.
As proven by the fact that Tyson screwed the pooch on the theoretical calculation, and then screwed the pooch again when he tried to fix his first screw-up.
REAL experts don't screw up simple calculations.
Bill Nye got his mechanical engineering degree from the same institute that I did (Cornell U, mechanical). You might think that he is a mechanical engineer.
He is not. He is an "educator, an advocate for & a popularizer of science".
If he were really a mechanical engineer, he would have put pen to paper & done a couple of simple calculations, and done them competently, before blowing off his mouth with unmitigated crap.
You ARE what you DO.
Both experimental physicists and lab hands on engineers should be easily able to set up controlled experiments illustrating the effect of temperature and yes moisture (possible quicker thermal equilibrium) on scuffed "used" NFL footballs. Heck, even when I was in management VP of engineering (internet systems) at my startup I did the lab work running lots of the voltage, temperature chamber, whatever NEBS qualification tests for the stuff we designed so that the real working engineers could keep doing their new detailed designs for better stuff.
Anyone regardless of specific physics or hardware engineering degree who is trained in engineering/experimental methodology, understands the basic physics and how to set up and run valid controlled experiments should be able to do this, even if they're at a New York institution of learning.
And I make doozies of mistakes myself from time to time, including in my area of work. I was on the phone with my client, the CEO of Databricks last night, talking about Amazon Redshift. I called it Red Brick, which embarrassingly is somewhat of a competing product. Confusion ensued.
But the equilibrium calculations aren't what matter anyway. More relevant is the speed at which equilibrium is reached, and that can only be assessed by experimentation rather than theory.