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He must be reading this board. Shhhhhhh.
I've suspected that a lot lately. The whole heart beat of the fan base is here and it's easy pickings for any reporter to get ideas for their work. Some of the research is already done in some cases, especially in the draft room.
My question is, does he actually work for the patriots? If so, they why the hell would he post players he likes on twitter, for the rest of the 31 other teams to see. That **** annoys me!
I just think as a reporter this is a good site to come to visit just to get a feel for the fan base. What's bothering them, what excites them etc.
A little off subject, but I have a question for you guys. Thought about making a new post, but didn't know where to put it. so I guess Ill just ask here.
Which two players would you rather have on the roster next year?
Danny Amendola & Aaron Dobson
or
Kenny Britt & Eddie Royal?
Mayo,
I agree with your basic idea. I call this the double down draft. I think the Pats need two inside OLineman from this draft. I believe they need to take two OL in the 1st 101 picks (they will have 5 in the 1st 101). I also agree they need DL help. The strength of this draft is on the DL. A team can afford to wait and take a DE/LB or DT later in the draft. I could see the picks go OL, DL, OL, DL RB. They could draft LB projections (Kyle Emmanuel and Tony Chikillo). I could see both of these players moving to ILB. The 4th double down is at RB. I love Tyler Varga and would love to see him taken by the Pats. I agree with Erving, Hardison. Marpet is a project and I would be afraid to start him right away. Fisher has really impressed me and he would also be a candidate to move to LG. David Johnson RB N Iowa is a player that meets the Patriots standards. He has the potential to be an every down back. BB doesn't draft college OG to play OG in the NFL. He takes college OTs and moves them to OG. Look for Jeremiah Poutasi as another possibility at OG. We also need a replacement for Ninko. He is on the other side of 30 and played nearly every snap on D this year. He needs some plays off to extend him ( he wore down significantly as the season went on). I like Preston Smith or Diggy Odighizuwa as the LDE.
The Seahawks manipulated the board in 2014 accumulating picks along the way. ... their main intention in round one last year was to use the #32 selection to make sure they got more picks for other targeted players later on.
Seattle traded down twice — acquiring an extra fourth rounder from Minnesota and a seventh from Detroit. They also swapped a fifth for a fourth with the Lions. That deal essentially allowed them to take Cassius Marsh, Kevin Norwood and Kevin Pierre-Louis in the same round. A calculated move — because all three screamed ‘Seahawks’ pre-draft. This wasn’t done on a whim. And you can’t draft all three without the carefully orchestrated trades.
I’m not sure Marsh or Norwood necessarily go in the fourth round unless Seattle takes them. They made sure they got the guys they liked. There are other examples. They knew at #64 they had to take a tackle or risk missing out altogether (they had no third round pick because of the Percy Harvin trade). So they took Justin Britt — a move that, in fairness, seemed like quite a reach.
Garrett Scott provided a physical upside at tackle (a SPARQ demon) in round six. Eric Pinkins was a total unknown, but also a total fit for what they look for in a defensive back. Does Jimmy Stated get drafted if the Seahawks don’t pick him in round five? Moves to get physical ideals onto the roster or obtain players they’d struggle to attract in UDFA.
There weren’t a lot of ‘big names’ on the 2014 list of draftees. There were a lot of players that made you say, “of course!” right after the pick when you looked at the measurables.
I suspect we’ll see something similar again this year. It’ll be a combination of hitting certain positional needs (and possibly reaching a little) in targeted rounds and selecting physical/character fits in other spots.
How good was Ali Marpet in 2014? He was named his Conference's Most Valuable Offensive Player. (1st OL in Leauge History)
A very interesting read from Rob Staton on Seahawksdraftblog about Seattle's maneuvering in the 2014 draft to get "their guys"
their main intention in round one last year was to use the #32 selection to make sure they got more picks for other targeted players later on.
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A calculated move — because all three screamed ‘Seahawks’ pre-draft. This wasn’t done on a whim. And you can’t draft all three without the carefully orchestrated trades.
Hmm...he's making some pretty strong statements about intent based on outcome:
The problem is, that was the draft with the live cameras in the Seahawks war room that showed the room suddenly deflating and sinking into dejection the moment Dominique Easley came off the board, and only THEN hitting the trade phones.
IOW, the whole scenario he maps out was plan B, and amounts to little more than "they didn't like the available talent at #32 and responded accordingly."
That's fine, I have some concerns about his fit too. But his jump isn't related to a single event like a combine, it's because his potential is sky high. I had him going 2nd round in a mock nearly four months ago - Hardison is very very talented, particularly athletically.
If no trade is available you're effectively screwed, and need a good back up plan.
My strategy, as discussed above, would be to target Hardison and Marpet day 2 to fill key positions, and move aggressively to get them.
Not much time. You can be all set up and then your whole strategy is thrown into disarray, with only a few minutes to plan. That's reportedly what happened with Philadelphia last year, when all their top choices were gone by pick 22 (they reportedly wanted Ha-Ha Clinton Dix badly, who went 1 pick earlier to Green Bay)