2015 NFL Veteran Cuts Thread

A man named Brady said:

200 yards and one touchdown in the RS. he had some nice moments in the PS but Can't count on him

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He wasn't even fully healthy until late in the season.

FourierSeries said:

WR is a priority over any of OL, DL, RB, TE?

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look at the roster they need WR's not starting type guys cause Edelman and lafell are a good one two punch with Gronk being the star of the offense, I would like to give DA one more shot but he may just have had a great post season then goes back to being the guy that had 27 rec for 200 yards in the season with half of that coming the last 3 weeks, Dobson cant get on the field and Brian Tyms has shown noting. not every team need has to be a starting position,

if I had to rank the team needs if Revis and McCourty are back its
#1 G
#2 DT
#3 RB
#4 WR

fnordcircle said:

I'd love Bush here but he doesn't strike me as the sort who will take the $$ we'd be offering.

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Injury prone, going on 30, chance to get a ring....how much money he command anyways?

FourierSeries said:

Wow, that's something I would be 100% in favor of. I wouldn't even miss Vereen if we landed Bush.

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How is his blocking?

FourierSeries said:

Amendola was a key contributor in our SB run. Perhaps you missed most of December, and all of January and February.

WR is not a need.

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He was a Key contributer because our core blows. He had one catch for 8 yards against Indy LOL. If either Edleman or Lafell goes down we have one NFL WR we can count on to produce.

Someone has to be brought in

patsinthesnow said:

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 9s9 seconds ago
Lions cut RB Reggie Bush, per source.

That is a great fit for cheap $ IMO.

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If the money is right sure. But I don't think he will be THAT cheap.

FourierSeries said:

What makes you think Bush is looking for more money than we'd be willing to offer?

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This is probably his last shot at a non-vet minimum contract so I'm not convinced he won't be looking for more than we can offer, especially given that we have a lot of higher priorities and White plus whoever else we pick up might end up being good receiving backs for us.

I'd be happy with Bush but not sure if we should expect it.

patsfan-1982 said:

look at the roster they need WR's not starting type guys cause Edelman and lafell are a good one two punch with Gronk being the star of the offense, I would like to give DA one more shot but he may just have had a great post season then goes back to being the guy that had 27 rec for 200 yards in the season with half of that coming the last 3 weeks, Dobson cant get on the field and Brian Tyms has shown noting. not every team need has to be a starting position,

if I had to rank the team needs if Revis and McCourty are back its
#1 G
#2 DT
#3 RB
#4 WR

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Lets jettison Ghost while we are at it too.

My top needs are

1.) DT
2.)OG
3.)WR
4.)DE
5.) RB

Deus Irae said:

WR is absolutely a need.

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Depends how you look at it. If we keep Amendola then not so much. It be nice to have one but not for sure needed.

I look at all the pass catchers

Edelman, Lafell, Gronk, Wright Amendola and think "that is pretty decent". It could be better and you need someone to replace Vereen's production but that should probably be another RB cause i like the safety valve that allows.

BobDigital said:

Depends how you look at it. If we keep Amendola then not so much. It be nice to have one but not for sure needed.

I look at all the pass catchers

Edelman, Lafell, Gronk, Wright Amendola and think "that is pretty decent". It could be better and you need someone to replace Vereen's production but that should probably be another RB cause i like the safety valve that allows.

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Unless you think last year was a complete aberration, you can write Wright off.
You can't count on Amendola to either a) stay healthy or b) be consistent

This team has

a TE (Gronk)
a Slot/OWR combo (Edelman)
a WR3 in LaFell

It needs more. The team's been at least 1 WR short since (meaning post in this case, and not including) 2008, and that hasn't changed. I don't know why this has to be debated every single year around here.

FourierSeries said:

For some reason I thought Bush was a bit younger than he actually is, too. Didn't realize he is 29.

Vereen is still probably the better option, but Bush wouldn't be a bad replacement.

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He still has 1 year left and not as much tread on the tires as his age implies. I think a 1 yr lows salary deal would be the way to go.

Deus Irae said:

Unless you think last year was a complete aberration, you can write Wright off.
You can't count on Amendola to either a) stay healthy or b) be consistent

This team has

a TE (Gronk)
a Slot/OWR combo (Edelman)
a WR3 in LaFell

It needs more. The team's been at least 1 WR short since 2008, and that hasn't changed. I don't know why this has to be debated every single year around here.

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They produced pretty much the best offense in the NFL.

They tore apart arguably the best defense of the 21st century.

They won the Superbowl.
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I understand your stance at WR, but how did we come up short again?

Edelman is a WR1, and I'm not sure why Lafell isn't a WR2?

Getting one vet wide out like a Cotchery and we're all set imo if Dola takes a paycut. Dobson, Tyms, and Boyce can't be counted on to contribute anything.

patsinthesnow said:

They produced pretty much the best offense in the NFL.

They tore apart arguably the best defense of the 21st century.

They won the Superbowl.
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I understand your stance at WR, but how did we come up short again?

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Using your argument, and following the logic, the Patriots should make absolutely no moves beyond keeping every single player.

Who's going to tell Bill to get rid of all his draft picks?

JMC00 said:

Thinking Brandon Marshall would be an option if he is cut is laughable.

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Agreed, not while Josh is OC. One might as well speculate that Josh will try to bring in Jay Cutler.

Deus Irae said:

Unless you think last year was a complete aberration, you can write Wright off.
You can't count on Amendola to either a) stay healthy or b) be consistent

This team has

a TE (Gronk)
a Slot/OWR combo (Edelman)
a WR3 in LaFell

It needs more. The team's been at least 1 WR short since 2008, and that hasn't changed. I don't know why this has to be debated every single year around here.

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Well the team could certain use more but it does not need more per say. It won last year with the group it had so it seems even though admittedly it was not ideal (about that you are correct) it was at least good enough.

I am not against getting a WR at all but I just don't plan to spend a lot of money on one. I believe we are in agreement that a lot of spending and getting a star is not needed here.

Wright I think can be better next year. It was his first year in the offense and he did serve a roll as an endzone option so i think that has value.

Amendola you are 100% correct about. He has shown to be inconsistent. That is concerning for sure. I am still okay with him as a depth option.

Gronk/Edelman/Lafell we don't need to discuss I think.

The main issue with me is the team needs to at least replace Vereen's production. Vereen was the teams 4th option this year so they either need to feel Amendola/Wright can step into that role or get someone else.

It can be a TE/WR/RB. Doesn't really matter but you need someone to replace that production clearly if Vereen walks (which i am 99% sure he will at this point).

I think the issue here is you said they need a WR and maybe it just got over blown. I am not getting on your case about it cause i think they need someone to replace Vereen's production and I am not confident that guy is on the roster.

Maybe he is though. Maybe Dobson stays healthy and does well (stranger things have happened) maybe White or Gaffney is the new 3rd down back?

No one really knows for sure.

Teams who place a priority on accumulating compensatory draft picks will have interest in Bush, who wouldn't subtract from their FA losses.

FourierSeries said:

There are other areas of need.

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I am always confused by this recurring comment. Why should we reject a player out of hand because we have other needs. Should we not sign a DE because we need an OG?

And yes, we don't need a wide receiver if Amendola and the team can negotiate a new contract with a major pay cut. Maybe that is possible. If not, some might think that we might have a need for a #3 WR or a #4WR, unless we are sure that Dobson and Tyms can fill these roles and no competition is needed.

BobDigital said:

I think the issue here is you said they need a WR and maybe it just got over blown.

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They do, and they have, since the end of 2008. Belichick knows this. He's been trying to fix it ever since. It's only some people on this board who can't seem to grasp the obvious.

2009 - Drafted Tate, signed Galloway, got stuck with Aiken
2010 - Drafted Price, brought Branch back after Moss presser (Gronk/Hernandez year 1)
2011 - Traded for Johnson/Ochocinco
2012 - Signed Lloyd
2013 - Brought in Jenkins and Jones, drafted Dobson and Boyce
2014 - Brought in LaFell

Year after year, Belichick shows that he feels WR is a need, even when he's running the 2TE system. Year after year, posters here insist it's not.

Now, I'm not advocating for Jones, who was cut. I'm not advocating for Marshall, who might be cut. I'm simply noting that WR is a need for the team. It's just the reality of the roster.

And that's the last I'll talk of this in this thread, since this is a thread about cuts.