2/17 Rumor: Pats' locker room attendant tried to put unapproved kicking ball in AFCCG

What is an "unapproved special teams football"??? I thought all special teams footballs were approved by the NFL??? Is this article suggesting that the "Pats attendant" tried to sneak in a Patriots K ball which should never even be on the field to begin with??? So basically BSPN is suggesting there was a conspiracy to sneak in approved footballs...this **** gets worse everyday.

Wow, so the physicists were right and balls DO deflate on the cold. Thanks E!SPN and NFL leaker. Now, if you could just prove the Patriots did it intentionally you might actually be getting somehwere...

So the best that they could come up with is that someone accidentally handed a k-ball to the officials when a Patriots offensive ball was called for? ****, the whole reason why they separate the balls is because QBs hate k-balls, so it would actually hurt Brady. A k-ball is way, way harder to throw than a broken-in football. That's the entire reason why QBs lobbied for separate balls.

Seriously, three seconds of critical thought entirely debunks this being anything more than an accident that actually hurt the Patriots if it even happened. Needless to say, the media at large will completely miss this fact and somehow declare it as proof that the Pats cheated.

So now we're supposedly cheating with K-Balls that are usually inflated more than usual. So, please explain to me how this makes any sense in regards to 'Brady is cheating and using deflated balls'. Does he like it deflated or inflated? This report is a direct contradiction to deflategate.

This whole thing is a joke to begin with. It shows you how incompetent the nfl is. Why not just have a damn nfl employee moniter the effing footballs instead of the teams? You know why? Because they never gave a s*** about this rule until they tried to frame the patriots with it. If the air of footballs was so important they wouldnt be so non chalant with them.

BradyFTW! said:

So the best that they could come up with is that someone accidentally handed a k-ball to the officials when a Patriots offensive ball was called for? ****, the whole reason why they separate the balls is because QBs hate k-balls, so it would actually hurt Brady. A k-ball is way, way harder to throw than a broken-in football. That's the entire reason why QBs lobbied for separate balls.

Seriously, three seconds of critical thought entirely debunks this being anything more than an accident that actually hurt the Patriots if it even happened. Needless to say, the media at large will completely miss this fact and somehow declare it as proof that the Pats cheated.

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Who cares about the media. The second they stop taking shots and trying to discredit us is the day that we are no longer elite.

Guy finds ball on sideline, tosses it to the guy on sideline in charge of balls. Come of the century, film at 11.


I'm glad this is on the Deflategate forum, it's so overwhelming in the main forum. There were like a whole two new threads today. At least we stayed on football talk like the jets tampering and some reporter saying something bad about Pats fans. Next game 6 months, draft in two.

These rumors from unnamed sources are like drunken fratboys playing Battleship. The kicking balls are separate from the Colts and Patriots playing balls, and wouldn't go as far if deflated.

This just adds more questions and speculation hoping something sticks as ESPN piles on the clicks. Was it the kicking balls or the playing balls? Both? On both sidelines or just the Patriots sidelines? Was it 1 or 11 balls that were underinflated? Were they one psi under, two psi under, or just a tick under? Was it the Colts equipment managers handling the intercepted ball or the elderly guy going to the bathroom for 90 seconds?

B9, C7, D8, A4 -- Miss. Miss. Miss. Miss.

I read the article to mean the locker room attendant gave the official in charge of special teams footballs an unapproved football (the ball didn't have a k on it). So this ball would have been used for special teams play, not a play run by Brady.

Not really sure how this is relevant to the deflate gate nonsense but more than anything it calls into question the process around how the balls are handled and controlled pre-game and during the game.

As much as articles like this will support the conspiracy theorists and still without merit, this whole process really reflects poorly on the NFL and their obvious lack of control and defined protocols (why was Mike Kensil measuring the balls at halftime and not the officials)

scott99 said:

Hate to be the bearer of bad football chicanery news, but here goes:

SportsCenter reported that a Patriots locker-room attendant tried to put an unapproved kicking ball into the AFC Championship game, per sources close to the investigation.

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It's only a problem if you allow it to be one.

SacPete1 said:

I read the article to mean the locker room attendant gave the official in charge of special teams footballs an unapproved football (the ball didn't have a k on it). So this ball would have been used for special teams play, not a play run by Brady.

Not really sure how this is relevant to the deflate gate nonsense but more than anything it calls into question the process around how the balls are handled and controlled pre-game and during the game.

As much as articles like this will support the conspiracy theorists and still without merit, this whole process really reflects poorly on the NFL and their obvious lack of control and defined protocols.

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It does make it seem as though what goes on on the sidelines is total chaos, and that's on the NFL.

I had to go read that again, at first I was a bit alarmed, but later realized that there was not much to see here.

SacPete1 said:

I read the article to mean the locker room attendant gave the official in charge of special teams footballs an unapproved football (the ball didn't have a k on it). So this ball would have been used for special teams play, not a play run by Brady.

Not really sure how this is relevant to the deflate gate nonsense but more than anything it calls into question the process around how the balls are handled and controlled pre-game and during the game.

As much as articles like this will support the conspiracy theorists and still without merit, this whole process really reflects poorly on the NFL and their obvious lack of control and defined protocols.

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That makes more sense than the assumption that I was making (that this had anything at all to do with all the deflation nonsense); I bet your interpretation is right on.

If all they come up with is that a guy mistakenly threw the wrong ball to a ref, who promptly noticed and rejected that ball, then I don't see how anyone could draw any kind of conclusion from that.

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It does make it seem as though what goes on on the sidelines is total chaos, and that's on the NFL.

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It appears that the marking of the footballs served its purpose. Errant footballs were not introduced

juny said:

It appears that the marking of the footballs served its purpose. Errant footballs were not introduced

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Exactly, that's the purpose of the guy in charge of the balls. With practice balls and what not the ball attendant makes sure game balls get in the game. If somebody thinks they have a ball of his they toss it to him, he makes the determination if it's his or not. What's the issue?

I think the issue is why was a locker room attendant on the sidelines. In other words who gives a s***

That had to be the holdup in play that we noticed.

The jigs up guys, they figured out the key to the Patriots 15 year run.

Every year the Patriots have a guy toss a ball to the one guy who is in charge of making sure only certain balls go in the game hoping that one time he might actually forget and toss it in with the K-balls. And then when the Patriots need to kick he might actually pick that one super secret ball to give to the refs.

BB evil genius. Hahahahaha (maniacal laugh)

IcyPatriot said:

That had to be the holdup in play that we noticed.

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The report referred to first half incident, not the cluster at the beginning of second half

Cue idiots on tv lining up how kicking balls are advantageous to the QB. What is this story ? Coudl it not be possible he picked the wrong football and the officials sorted it out. WTF is going on here ?

juny said:

The report referred to first half incident, not the cluster at the beginning of second half

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The article on ESPN Boston says its the first half.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...-lines-reports?ex_cid=espnapi_public#comments

Also says Kensil allegedly tested the balls himself.