The DeGuglielmo Fandom Thread

Wrath Mania said:

. Furthermore the GOOGE won me over with his fiery coach talk from the various NFL film clips from the Super Bowl./

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Could someone please post link/time to listen? I'd love to see this.

mgcolby said:

I didn't read a single post in this thread, don't take it personally. I find it beyond arrogant to feel as if anyone is somehow more qualified to evaluate a coach whom you have never met nor most likely will ever meet than BB. I don't get sports fans at times. I understand questioning a lot of things in this world, but BB's coaches? What is your sports/coaching resume? I coach youth sports and most of the parents don't have a clue. They'll tell us how it should be, but don't what the A gap is or a jerk route. And if anyone reads this and doesn't know what a jerk route is, then never question BB or a knowledgeable youth coach ever again.

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I'm sure a good coach hired onto a new team doesn't watch a single play of his linemen before making decisions.

Your opinion of this thread is either right on, or totally wrong...you know depending on what the posts you didn't read actually say.

ALP said:

I find it crazy how easily he dismisses some of what i thought are the best LTs in the game in preferance to Solder

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I took that as his coaching up of Solder. Solder doesn't seem to me to be a rah rah self starter type. Seems like (I am not a youth football coach, this is just my observation) Solder played much more confidently towards seasons end and really got a kick out of his touch down reception.

A lot of coaching (see previous disclaimer) seems to be about pushing different buttons on different players and praise or challenges might be seen in that light.

patchick said:

I'll count myself among the throngs who couldn't imagine Wendell as an effective RG. Before the season there was a discussion here on "if they're only going to keep 1 of Connolly and Wendell, who would you keep"? I argued for Connolly on the basis of flexibility, since Wendell was obviously a pure center. Wrong in big way, Madame Patchick.

Despite a frame that should have no business playing guard in the NFL, Wendell looked better to me at RG than C. Being freed from snapping duties seemed to let him get off the snap more aggressively, counteracting some of his size disadvantage.

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He did a great job. to me, I see the long term plan to get bigger (a problem before) more force, less inside pressure. that's why I see Wendell as the ideal backup,not future starter.

mgcolby said:

I didn't read a single post in this thread, don't take it personally. I find it beyond arrogant to feel as if anyone is somehow more qualified to evaluate a coach whom you have never met nor most likely will ever meet than BB. I don't get sports fans at times. I understand questioning a lot of things in this world, but BB's coaches? What is your sports/coaching resume? I coach youth sports and most of the parents don't have a clue. They'll tell us how it should be, but don't what the A gap is or a jerk route. And if anyone reads this and doesn't know what a jerk route is, then never question BB or a knowledgeable youth coach ever again.

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The thing you gotta love about the GOOGE is he doesn't let the haters get to him. His only focus is on coaching up his boys in the trenches.

RayClay said:

I'm sure a good coach hired onto a new team doesn't watch a single play of his linemen before making decisions.

Your opinion of this thread is either right on, or totally wrong...you know depending on what the posts you didn't read actually say.

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I was referring to all the detractors early in the year. Many of whom were blaming BB for not being prepared for Scar's retirement and hiring another "yes man".

mgcolby said:

I was referring to all the detractors early in the year. Many of whom were blaming BB for not being prepared for Scar's retirement and hiring another "yes man".

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That's not what you said, and I was not one of those.

RayClay said:

That's not what you said, and I was not one of those.

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Well 15 beers in one's articulateness is among the first to go by the wayside. But I knew what I meant.

RayClay said:

I took that as his coaching up of Solder. Solder doesn't seem to me to be a rah rah self starter type. Seems like (I am not a youth football coach, this is just my observation) Solder played much more confidently towards seasons end and really got a kick out of his touch down reception.

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I think his teammates got an even bigger kick out of it than he did.

ctpatsfan77 said:

I think his teammates got an even bigger kick out of it than he did.

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Yeah, the line developed a great camaraderie it seemed, after a very rocky start. Solder improved as much as anyone.

ALP said:

I find it crazy how easily he dismisses some of what i thought are the best LTs in the game in preferance to Solder

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You have to take what Googe says with a very healthy dose of salt. Here's what he had to say about Wayne Hunter when he was with the Jets:

This guy is the starting right tackle," DeGuglielmo said in an interview with reporters today. "Until they tell me otherwise, until they ship him out of this building or until they shoot me dead in my office, that son-of-a-gun is going to be the starting right tackle. And he's going to play well

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And....

"I wanted Wayne Hunter, so the last thing I would ever want to see happen is not have Wayne Hunter as the starting right tackle," DeGuglielmo said. "He’s big, he's athletic, he’s aggressive, he's a smart guy, he practices at top speed, he practices physical, he pays attention to detail. Everything you give him to do on the field, he does it, and he does it naturally."

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neuronet said:

Could someone please post link/time to listen? I'd love to see this.

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Bueller?

Demosthenes said:

You have to take what Googe says with a very healthy dose of salt. Here's what he had to say about Wayne Hunter when he was with the Jets:



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Don't understyand. Both quotes are supporting Hunter, the guy he wanted, over the guy the team wanted and the team subsequently traded Hunter. Sound like he was trying to shoot his way out of the jets.

RayClay said:

Don't understyand. Both quotes are supporting Hunter, the guy he wanted, over the guy the team wanted and the team subsequently traded Hunter. Sound like he was trying to shoot his way out of the jets.

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Point is that Wayne Hunter absolutely SUCKED as a right tackle which means one of two things. That being said, either Googe was just talking out his rear end to try and build up Hunter's confidence, or, Googe was way off the mark wrt his assessment of Hunter's abilities.

Ozymandias said:

The mark of a good coach is when they can adapt to their players. I was skeptical of him early on given the O-line struggles at the beginning of the season. However, never have I been happier to be more wrong than this. This is a great example of why it isn't always smart to rush to judgment about a player/coach/team after a few games.

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Or, as per the Game Day thread, a few plays.

Demosthenes said:

Point is that Wayne Hunter absolutely SUCKED as a right tackle which means one of two things. That being said, either Googe was just talking out his rear end to try and build up Hunter's confidence, or, Googe was way off the mark wrt his assessment of Hunter's abilities.

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Not having any opinion of hunter, it means nothing to me. sounds like the main point is, he was being undermined by his front office.

Having read a bit more, it sounds like he was hyping every lineman in his new job who had received criticism. Maybe that's his motivational style.

RayClay said:

Having read a bit more, it sounds like he was hyping every lineman in his new job who had received criticism. Maybe that's his motivational style.

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Could be. I just remember there was a big laugh about it over on one of the Jets boards when the quotes came out as nearly everyone there was in agreement that Hunter sucked.

Just to go back and clarify, my point was only that people should take what Googe says with a healthy dose of salt. Was thinking about this comment specifically:

I don’t want to hear about [Denver’s Ryan] Clady, [Cleveland’s] Joe Thomas, I don’t want to hear about any of them. [Eagles’ Jason] Peters is sloppy. I’d take Nate Solder over all those guys, and I’ve told him that.

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while I thought the pass blocking improved tremendously as the year went on. I thought the run blocking was very average overall. Now is that coaching or talent its hard to say...

Like others said some road grader guards would be welcomed.

Scar was great and Googe had a rocky start for certain but I think the verdict is still out. Decent first year overall.

Run blocking is both coaching and talent. I have seen teams like Dallas invest heavily in very talented linemen (3 first rounders) and the unit opens huge holes. I have seen other teams like the old Kubiak-led Broncos go with smaller, athletic linemen and employ cut-blocking and vertical runners... "One cut or you're cut". The Ravens this year used a lot of cut-blocking... and had Kubiak... so next year would expect Denver to go back to cut-blocking for CJ Anderson.

The Patriots have had maulers: Leon Gray and John Hannah. Bruce Armstrong. But lately we have had athletic linemen who "zone block", "pull", and release to get in front of designed screen plays to block downfield.

The smaller players have often failed to form a pocket and have been susceptible to pressure up the middle.

I think we would philosophically like to get bigger and invest more high draft picks in the line. We are a game plan team so all players will need to be able to run block and pass protect. And we place a value on flexibility so that we can only commit 7 players to the 46-man game day roster even if we are carrying 9 linemen on the 53 man. This lets us have more special teams players like Slater, Ebner, Don Jones before we lost him back to Miami...