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So here's the deal. Deflategate has seeped through the minds of all in America....old, middle aged and KIDS! I live in NJ. My daughter (13) and son (11) wore their Pats jerseys to school after the SB and obviously a lot of fellow kids called Pats "cheats" and they beat the Colts using deflated balls. Now I have given my kids comebacks to potential cheating accusations but you know kids - they deal with one liners. I told them that NFL has not come out yet with any findings, other teams have done worse, etc. But they say the kids just say "Patriots cheated. It's all over the news". Took my son to a birthday party and he wore his new Edelman jersey and he told me most other kids were saying Pats cheated to win the Super Bowl. He did give his points but you know the accusation "you are cheats" sticks.

So my question is how to handle it. I think other kids saying "your team are cheats" is borderline bullying - even if it's true. Ruins the moment for kids. I don't want to confront the other kids saying it but how to address this issue? It's getting too much now and I fed up of giving my kids long lectures on how to defend themselves on baseless accusation.

Any help/advice would be appreciated. Also....I curse the Colts forever!

I would suggest your kids use the old "my daddy can kick your daddy's butt" response....seriously!
 
They are kids. What would you tell them to say if someone picked on their haircut, called them gay, made fun of their parents, call them names, etc.
Its not the end of the world, and I certainly wouldn't call it anything approaching bullying.
If your kids believe the Pats did nothing wrong, have them say that and that it is being investigated and the real truth will come out.

I'd tell them to laugh REALLY hard if another kid calls the Pats cheaters. Just keep laughing and saying "that's really funny!"
 
My 8 year old third grader told me that some of the boys in her class was telling her that the Pats were cheaters. She asked me if they were and what she could tell them. I told her that if they bring it up again just tell them...there's no proof anyone cheated and it's all about science we'll learn in 6th grade. Haha. And then if that fails just tell them...you hate us because all we do is WIN WIN WIN. hahaha. Daddy of the year award coming home!
 
NENGFAN, This is going to turn out to be a GREAT learning experience for your kids.

What they will learn, what you should be teaching your kids, and what the parents of those other kids should be teaching theirs is ...

1) Don't spread gossip &/or rumors.

2) Listen to experts, not to amateurs.

3) Don't jump to conclusions before you have all the facts.

4) If you DO spread rumors, how are you going to feel when those rumors turn out to be false

5) It is unkind & unjust to spread rumors, and if you keep doing it, I'm going to take a belt to your backside.

6) OFTEN, the smartest thing to do is to intentionally, willfully NOT come to a conclusion, because you know that all the info is not yet available. It is MUCH smarter to say "I don't have enough information to draw a conclusion yet" than it is to jump to the wrong conclusion.

All of the above is true, regardless of how the report from the NFL turns out.
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Now, here is how it is GOING TO turn out, because it has to:

1. If they have any integrity, the NFL will publish the FACT that nobody touched those balls. It is 100% provable. (See below.)

2. Someone should take a belt to the backsides of all those clueless, ignorant reporters, talking heads & ex-NFL football players who assert - SOLELY THRU THEIR OWN IGNORANCE - that Brady & Belichick are cheaters & liars.. NOT ONE of them has the slightest clue what they are talking about, and the only reason that they are writing it is because other clueless morons are saying it.

3. So, tell your kids to tell their friends, "why don't we wait to see what the investigation concludes, instead of jumping to baseless conclusions."

4. The most important lesson: "The POPULAR answer is not necessarily the CORRECT answer."

5. It's your option (I'd recommend against it) to tell them that the vasty majority of the population are scientific & technical morons.

They will be proven right & wise beyond their years.

Good luck,

Tom
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In the meanwhile, print out the section below & have them take it to a physics teacher at their (or a local) high school. Ask the teacher if everything printed here is exactly correct. Ask the teacher, "Doesn't this mean that, if the balls were found to be about 2 psi low (11 psi vs 13 psi), this shows that the temperature alone was responsible for 1.5 psi drop & Tom Brady was responsible for the other 0.5 psi drop (because he likes 12.5 psi instead of 13.0 psi)?"

1) PV = nRT => P/T = nR/V
2) For nR/V = constant, P1/T1 = P2/T2 => P2 = P1 * (T2/T1)
3) For P1 = 12.5 psi, T1 = 75°F, T2 = 50°F
(but these equations REQUIRE absolute temperatures (°R) & pressures (psia).
NOT gauge pressure (psig) or °F.)
Converting to absolute temp & pressure:
P2 = (12.5+14.7) psia * (50+460)°R / (75+460°R) = 25.9 psia
Converting back to gauge pressure:
P2 = 25.9 psia - 14.7 psi) = 11.2 psig.

Experimental measurements show a pressure of 11.0 psi at 50°F.

Two likely corrections to the theoretical value are:
1) when inflating balls, adiabatic compression heats injected air to >100°F.
2) condensation of water vapor in the air inside the ball, when the balls cool, removes some water vapor from gases (N2, O2 & H2O) contributing to pressure.

Excellent post.
I'd add to your original points
6) Do not uncritically accept media reports of anything of consequence without reasoned skepticism

As to the calculations, when I get the granddaughters this summer they're gonna get a workbook exercise on the Ideal Gas Law as applied to footballs. They like that kind of stuff.
 
It was simple for me and my 15 year old.

"It's Not True" and "Scoreboard".

Next.
 
my kids are older now but i've always told them when it comes to sports, "excuses are for losers".
 
Here's a little trick passed down from my grandparents, and his grandparents. Teach them to say "Well if they cheated then what about that" have them point to the left with their left hand. Then when the other kid looks to see what they're looking at throw him a sucker punch. Too many kids are growing up not learning the consequences of spouting off at the mouth before adulthood. It's good to learn at 13, rather than 23 when a punch will actually break your jaw.
 
"People are jealous of winners" was what I told my sons. And I believe it, after 2004 people got tired of our ascension and were waiting for the downfall. Still waiting, I guess. :)

Also, OT sort of; could you imagine if Michael Jordan was playing in this day and age. He was so great, people would absolutely despise him and the Bulls.
 
Also, you can tell your kids to say, "Hey, only one team gets the trophy....and we got it...nah, nah!"

In the world of grownup, everyone doesn't get a trophy....I think kids should learn that early too!
 


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