Tom Brady's arm ???

brady needs to lob deep throws a bit instead of riffling them in there...

but no, his arm strentgh is top notch still

When Brady had moss & stallworth he was great at throwing the deep ball...now he has edelman (& Welker in the past) & gronkowski as his top 2 targets...why would he need to be "great" at the deep ball? The pats just won a SB by being "great" at 5-10 yard passes....oh and Bob Ryan *****es that the media can't sit court side at Celtics games...f him...

"Arm strength is how far you can throw the ball." -Expert Baseball analysis from Bob Ryan.

Tom Brady does not throw long because he does not have to.. none of this matters, as long as we win.

If I remember correctly Montana did not throw a lot of long balls either..

Eejit.

No need to read.

Crononaut said:

Turned off the moment he said Brady was in the bottom 10% of QB's in terms of arm strength, citing his poor deep throwing as evidence.

Brady's issue with deep throws is accuracy, not strength, and many underthrows this season were the result of throwing as he was being hit. Heck, most of his misses are overthrows. Manning has better accuracy on the deep pass but it's because he's throwing up floaters that he can put right where he wants to.

Brady throws a laser as good as anyone in the NFL.

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Yup, sometimes I wonder if people watch the same games I watch lol.

DarrylS said:

Tom Brady does not throw long because he does not have to.. none of this matters, as long as we win.

If I remember correctly Montana did not throw a lot of long balls either..

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It mostly comes down to the talent at WR.

Montana had incredible touch and a very good arm early/middle part of his career. He also had very good deep threats in Freddie Solomon and John Taylor. I would go on to say that Jerry Rice was also a quality deep threat.

I've watched every game of Brady's career he has never been accurate on his deep passes. He lacks the touch to lob them in downfield. When Brady throws down field you know with almost absolute certainty that he is overthrowing his receiver by 1-3 yards. The only receiver that was able to cover up this problem was Moss who could successfully run down his overthrows.

This doesn't mean Brady is a bad QB, he has an absolute bullet of a pass and pinpoint accuracy on intermediate and short routes, but don't fool yourself, he has never been even remotely decent at his deep pass outside of Moss. It's not the receivers he is lacking it's the way he throws deep he doesn't lob them downfield he bullets them out there at a low trajectory which doesn't give his recievers time to run down his over throws.

robertweathers said:

It mostly comes down to the talent at WR.

Montana had incredible touch and a very good arm early/middle part of his career. He also had very good deep threats in Freddie Solomon and John Taylor. I would go on to say that Jerry Rice was also a quality deep threat.

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Perhaps I thought wrong, but wasn't this thread about the latter part of Brady's career??/

PATS16N0 said:

Look what Wilson was doing in the Superbowl. He was throwing jump ball bombs to a WR who stands at what? 6'3? You can't do that with an Edelman or an Amendola.

Give us a Calvin Johnson and Brady's deep ball would be fine.

Deep balls are a two man show.

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6'5"... Brady could do as well as most quarterbacks throwing bombs to big receivers, getting picked off occasionally, boom and bus, then getting what most bomb throwers get, a pile of statistics and a loss in the playoffs as defenses game plan for their tendencies and bring pressure.

He prefers to widen the field and use quick receivers, an all world tight end and a third down back to go on drive after drive and win Super bowls.

Bob Ryan should retire he's embarrassing himself.

DarrylS said:

Perhaps I thought wrong, but wasn't this thread about the latter part of Brady's career??/

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No. Watch Bob Ryan's clip. He says Brady is terrible at throwing the deep ball and his arm strength is in the bottom 10% of NFL QBs.

While Brady may not have that pure deep ball touch like Russell Wilson, with the exception of Moss and Stallworth he hasn't had any pure deep threats in the 14 years he has started here.

Bottom 10% in arm strength? He is absolutely clueless.

Who is bob Ryan and why is his opinion important?

cardiak said:

I've watched every game of Brady's career he has never been accurate on his deep passes. He lacks the touch to lob them in downfield. When Brady throws down field you know with almost absolute certainty that he is overthrowing his receiver by 1-3 yards. The only receiver that was able to cover up this problem was Moss who could successfully run down his overthrows.

This doesn't mean Brady is a bad QB, he has an absolute bullet of a pass and pinpoint accuracy on intermediate and short routes, but don't fool yourself, he has never been even remotely decent at his deep pass outside of Moss. It's not the receivers he is lacking it's the way he throws deep he doesn't lob them downfield he bullets them out there at a low trajectory which doesn't give his recievers time to run down his over throws.

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Here's the problem with that theory. Let's say Brady is one of the poorest deep throwers in the NFL. How did he have one of the greatest seasons ever largely off deep passes?

You can say it's all Moss, but Moss played like 14 years. Are you going to say not one single year did Moss ever play with a guy who could throw deep? Brady has a terrible deep ball, but somehow every single QB Moss ever played with had an even worse deep ball? That's a pretty unbelievable stoke of luck. So if Moss had played with a guy who was even average at deep passes he would have caught even more than a record breaking 23TD passes? What if he played with a guy with a good deep ball, then I guess he catches 40TD passes. How was Moss' best season with a guy that can't throw deep? Why didn't Moss have his record breaking seasons with supposedly better deep throwers?

cardiak said:

I've watched every game of Brady's career he has never been accurate on his deep passes. He lacks the touch to lob them in downfield. When Brady throws down field you know with almost absolute certainty that he is overthrowing his receiver by 1-3 yards. The only receiver that was able to cover up this problem was Moss who could successfully run down his overthrows.

This doesn't mean Brady is a bad QB, he has an absolute bullet of a pass and pinpoint accuracy on intermediate and short routes, but don't fool yourself, he has never been even remotely decent at his deep pass outside of Moss. It's not the receivers he is lacking it's the way he throws deep he doesn't lob them downfield he bullets them out there at a low trajectory which doesn't give his recievers time to run down his over throws.

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Yeah he never threw a ball that just dropped in Moss's arms while he was running full stride.



The first pass that didn't drop into Moss's hands like a snowflake looks to me to be intentionally thrown short so Moss could catch it as the double coverage overruns the play, but what do i know?

Observer said:

Who is bob Ryan and why is his opinion important?

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The same guy who before the conference championship games said that regardless of who the AFC rep might be Seattle would be a double digit SB favorite. His intense dislike of all things Patriot is well-documented.

Ryan's performance in the last few weeks has been less than poor. Like Felger, he is someone no Patriot fan should ever listen to again. Ever.

Just let him, Felger, Jackie Mac twist into irrelevance. Their snap judgments on deflategate was an insult to any fan of the Patriots and only added to the misery of that first SB week. Screw 'em all - do NOT click and do not turn in to 98'5 in the afternoons. It's the only way to change the sports talk to something resembling enjoyment in this town.

Ryan is still trying to get an exclusive interview with Jim Loscutoff .

Give him a big fast WR with hands and Tom will make them all eat ****. If my memory serves me well, the last time he had a receiver of this magnitude he only blew away league records and helped that receiver break Jerry Rices single season TD record. His arm is fine enough to win SB's obviously

That other video with Bob Kraft narrating about BB and Brady was pretty cool. Hadn't seen that.