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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.It's interesting how fast the debate has gone from Brady vs. Manning to Brady vs. Montana for GOAT.
Not that there is any debate. Brady has made it to six SBs (so far), Montana only made it to four.
If we take out the Wild card round, which did not exist for Montana, he has "only" 19. I like giving in to their reasonable argument then winning anyway.Hey PWP, Brady only has 21 postseason wins. Unless you got some crystal ball where the pats repeat next year to get to 24
Unitas is over rated. He had Raymond Berry at WR. The guy who invented timing routes. And this was pre-free agency - no players bringing your secret tactic league wide. With that extreme advantage Unitas lead the Colts to one NFL championship in the game of the century- the first sudden death OT. They needed OT to beat a team running "if you are open" as opposed to "you will be open."...
I think that the serious discussion of Goat for years to come will center on Brady, Montana and Unitas, with honorary mentions to Roger Staubach and maybe a couple of others from before the SB era. ...
Disagree on Unitas .Unitas is over rated. He had Raymond Berry at WR. The guy who invented timing routes. And this was pre-free agency - no players bringing your secret tactic league wide. With that extreme advantage Unitas lead the Colts to one NFL championship in the game of the century- the first sudden death OT. They needed OT to beat a team running "if you are open" as opposed to "you will be open."
When Berry retired, Unitas's stats go down - although that may be age. In the SB era he did not lead the Colts to III, he came in in relief of Morral. He won V. Roundly called the worst played SBHe was one of
Honestly i don't know what to make of Manning anymore.
I agree he was good, but he wasn't the QB god he is made to be. Top 10 or fifteen, sure. I see many saying top 2 or 3.Disagree on Unitas . He won two nfl championships, 58 and 59. He also took colts to a third, but lost to Jim browns browns. He set many of the passing records, before the rules were changed on blocking techniques and pass defense. One record many thought would be unbroken, consecutive games with TD was only recently broken by Bree's. He was injured in '68' hence morrell took colts to sb 3. Sb 5 was his last hurrah and he was traded by new colts owner irsay shortly after.
Unitas is over rated. He had Raymond Berry at WR. The guy who invented timing routes. And this was pre-free agency - no players bringing your secret tactic league wide. With that extreme advantage Unitas lead the Colts to one NFL championship in the game of the century- the first sudden death OT. They needed OT to beat a team running "if you are open" as opposed to "you will be open."
When Berry retired, Unitas's stats go down - although that may be age. In the SB era he did not lead the Colts to III, he came in in relief of Morral. He won V. Roundly called the worst played SBHe was one of
Honestly i don't know what to make of Manning anymore.
My thinking as I posted the updated stats in post #1 (Thanks for the corrections BTW) was to provide folks ammo for the forthcoming Manning is the greatest discussions this season.
Then it dawned on me. Aside from one or 2 utter morons, those debates simply won't be happening in 2015.
I don't remember much about the game but wasn't Peyton's Superbowl MVP an absolute joke?
I was listening to XM NFL Radio last year or so and Dominic Rhodes was a guest and the hosts told him he should have been SB MVP for that game and the only reason they voted for Peyton was because at that time they collected votes by halftime or end of the 3rd. They voted for Manning because he was a big name and this was before Rhodes took over the game. The host was actually upset that he voted for Manning. So basically he won because the voting system was flawed.I don't remember much about the game but wasn't Peyton's Superbowl MVP an absolute joke?
Phil Simms finally admitted Brady is GOAT.