Bedard: league still thinks NE is guilty

From the "Bedard's weekly appearance on Douchenozzle and YARM show" thread:

"(Bedard) thinks deflate gate will end with a small fine. Says the league thinks they are guilty, but can't prove it. Says the league is checking road games, has reason to believe they should do so, but most teams won't cooperate for fear of the wrath of Belichick."

Couple of things I wonder about from that (assuming it's true...):

First, what exactly does "checking road games" mean?

Second, what does "fear the wrath of Belichick" mean? What would teams fear? His knowledge of where bodies are buried?

Excuse him, he made a small typo

He wrote "thinks"...he meant to wright "hopes"

rlcarr said:

From the "Bedard's weekly appearance on Douchenozzle and YARM show" thread:

"(Bedard) thinks deflate gate will end with a small fine. Says the league thinks they are guilty, but can't prove it. Says the league is checking road games, has reason to believe they should do so, but most teams won't cooperate for fear of the wrath of Belichick."

Couple of things I wonder about from that (assuming it's true...):

First, what exactly does "checking road games" mean?

Second, what does "fear the wrath of Belichick" mean? What would teams fear? His knowledge of where bodies are buried?

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Teams fear Belichick's voodoo. I've been saying this for weeks. As I said, good thing for the Seahawks the game was not in New Orleans.

But in reality, the NFL's PR spin machine is starting. It will look bad to exonerate the Pats instead of admitting it was a witch hunt to begin with. This way, the NFL can save face (while looking a bit inept I guess).

rlcarr said:

Second, what does "fear the wrath of Belichick" mean? What would teams fear? His knowledge of where bodies are buried?

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Post camera-gate, I'm sure BB has been compiling a doomsday dosier. I doubt any detail of others' malfeasance has escaped his attention.

Unfortunately next year I don't expect any team to escape "the wrath of Belichick", so they're holding on to a false hope by not "cooperating".(19-0!)

Or perhaps, as some posters have suggested may be the case, it's all the evidence against other teams BB has been compiling over the years since spygate.

Also, how the hell would a team "cooperate" anyway? Tell the NFL they don't like the Patriots or think they are cheaters? Pull out recorded PSI measurements the NFL doesn't keep themselves?

If the NFL is actually allowing other teams to weigh in, I can't expect it to be anything more than providing their own speculation.

It doesn't seem to matter what "the league" thinks if there is an independent investigation going on, right? But yes, I think they will try to save face with a slap on the wrist. I would love it if the Pats fought it tooth and nail.

Other teams cooperation might include their providing films to the investigators.

Beethree said:

Other teams cooperation might include their providing films to the investigators.

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Yeah, I'm thinking they want to check to see if the footballs were taken into the bathroom before every game.

The kid or elderly dude might just have a game day ritual of taking a piss before each game, so I don't really know what that would prove, though.

What are they hoping to find from road games? If our ball [elderly] man was carrying out Colts & Pats balls, I'm presuming that @ road games the home team is taking our balls to the field?

Maybe the league should let the facts shape their opinions, not the other way around. Our only hope is that the Columbia physicists give this a proper scientific evaluation and not the haphazard and lazy one that several pop-scientists have made. Columbia not really a top physics school, and the league going to them shows the same ignorance in science that got them in this mess in the first place, but I expect they are more than competent enough.

This is really embarrassing for the league. All the friggin conspiracy theories about Goodell & the league wanting to take us down are turning out to be true. Amazing.

turkeyneck said:

Post camera-gate, I'm sure BB has been compiling a doomsday dosier. I doubt any detail of others' malfeasance has escaped his attention.

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I hope you're right. It certainly would be a good thing to have been doing.

You know, I wish that back in 2007, if there really was a tape-trading club as was suggested, that NE had leaked all the other tapes so everyone would have seen that we were far from the only team doing that. And they should have threatened Roger with that, too and demanded the announced punishment be rather less than what Roger came up with.

karguy85 said:

But in reality, the NFL's PR spin machine is starting. It will look bad to exonerate the Pats instead of admitting it was a witch hunt to begin with. This way, the NFL can save face (while looking a bit inept I guess).

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The problem for the NFL is they've consulted scientists now - a group of people that couldn't give a **** less about the NFL's vendetta against the Patriots, or about the Patriots themselves. As long as they put the time in, the truth will come out. And the NFL would look like crap if they stymied that. They might try, though.

BradyManny said:

What are they hoping to find from road games? If our ball [elderly] man was carrying out Colts & Pats balls, I'm presuming that @ road games the home team is taking our balls to the field?

Maybe the league should let the facts shape their opinions, not the other way around. Our only hope is that the Columbia physicists give this a proper scientific evaluation and not the haphazard and lazy one that several pop-scientists have made. Columbia not really a top physics school, and the league going to them shows the same ignorance in science that got them in this mess in the first place, but I expect they are more than competent enough.

This is really embarrassing for the league. All the friggin conspiracy theories about Goodell & the league wanting to take us down are turning out to be true. Amazing.

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WTF do you mean Columbia is not a top physics school? Do you understand that Columbia is probably one of the 25 best Universities in the world! This is a test for a High school Chemistry science fair, not a prestigious university.

patman52 said:

WTF do you mean Columbia is not a top physics school? Do you understand that Columbia is probably one of the 25 best Universities in the world! This is a test for a High school Chemistry science fair, not a prestigious university.

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Don't get me wrong - its contributed quite a bit to the history of physics in the last century, and it's obviously a very prestigious university with a prestigious physics department. I'm not trying to put it down, that would be ridiculous. But if you had cart blanche on which physics department you could consult, you'd could go to MIT, Caltech, Princeton, Stanford, or Harvard. And for good reason, those make up half the top 10 - while Columbia is just outside of top 10. I'm just saying - the NFL chose them b/c they are a very good university in New York, not because of any exhaustive research.

I agree with you that Columbia is more than qualified.

BradyManny said:

What are they hoping to find from road games? If our ball [elderly] man was carrying out Colts & Pats balls, I'm presuming that @ road games the home team is taking our balls to the field?

Maybe the league should let the facts shape their opinions, not the other way around. Our only hope is that the Columbia physicists give this a proper scientific evaluation and not the haphazard and lazy one that several pop-scientists have made. Columbia not really a top physics school, and the league going to them shows the same ignorance in science that got them in this mess in the first place, but I expect they are more than competent enough.

This is really embarrassing for the league. All the friggin conspiracy theories about Goodell & the league wanting to take us down are turning out to be true. Amazing.

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would it be the same guy for every game including road games?

Hoodie said:

would it be the same guy for every game including road games?

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That's what I'm confused about. Allegedly, the Colts were first concerned about Patriots' balls being underinflated after a game played in Indy, where the Patriots would have no influence over the ball attendants. How would the Patriots have deflated balls in an away game? Does the NFL think they will find video of Tom Brady himself skulking around the officials' locker room sticking pins into game balls? The whole idea is nuts.

BradyManny said:

This is really embarrassing for the league. All the friggin conspiracy theories about Goodell & the league wanting to take us down are turning out to be true. Amazing.

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That's because they are NOT theories. If people would just open their eyes and LOOK, they'd see the continual string of lies, press edits, planted rumors, bizarre behavior and questionable league office connections to one particular team. How ANY fan, never mind a Patriots fan, can look at Kensil's 20 year history as a Jet executive,his well publicized hatred for Belichick since BB left in 2000 and his sudden departure from the Jets to become Goodell's right hand man in 2006, and say, "oh well, that looks normal to me" has either got rocks in his head or WANTS to believe the NFL fairy tale.

karguy85 said:

But in reality, the NFL's PR spin machine is starting. It will look bad to exonerate the Pats instead of admitting it was a witch hunt to begin with. This way, the NFL can save face (while looking a bit inept I guess).

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Meanwhile everyone outside of NE believes the NFL is finding a way to cover up their cheating now that they've won the SB.

There is absolutely no way the Patriots are exonerated in the general public's eye, even if they have video evidence of the balls all the way through halftime, even if they have scientists certifying the psi readouts and explaining the drop. It's been a sh*tshow and a witchhunt from day one.

The one good thing to come of all this: a rift in the Kraft-Goodell relationship. I think Kraft is seeing first hand how badly Goodell mismanages these media-driven investigations. Kraft gave him a pass as the new commissioner during camera-gate but now, with his team being dragged through the mud again, this time with absolutely no wrongdoing, Kraft won't stand for it. I think it's the first step toward Goodell losing his job, which is small consolation but it least it's something.

smurfalarm said:

That's what I'm confused about. Allegedly, the Colts were first concerned about Patriots' balls being underinflated after a game played in Indy, where the Patriots would have no influence over the ball attendants. How would the Patriots have deflated balls in an away game? Does the NFL think they will find video of Tom Brady himself skulking around the officials' locker room sticking pins into game balls? The whole idea is nuts.

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Not to mention we can think of 1-3 teams that would easily oblige the NFL's request and submit tape from the last year or two - Colts (obviously!), Jets & Ravens. This whole "afraid of Belichick's wrath" stuff is PR the NFL is putting out to spin their lack of evidence.