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Ivan · Feb 5, 2015

PATS16N0 said:

I never knew that freedom of speech meant you have to talk?

MassPats38 · Feb 5, 2015

Bella*chick said:
Anyone shocked by Edelman's insanity hasn't been paying attention. There was a feature written on him a few years ago and the guy is insane. Like starting fights on his own team insane. I was really surprised to read it because I didn't have much of a read on Edelman before…he was a great kick returner and seemed to be injured a lot. People always dismissed him as being a "bubble" player come roster cutdown time (though I never did, have to pat myself on the back there). He didn't seem to have much of a personality.

Edelman is like the Irish dude in Braveheart. Love the fact his craziness is on the Pats, and not some other team.

He will likely be fitted for a straight-jacket some day. Just not today.

SalemPats · Feb 5, 2015

Seattle has a real problem with a bunch of 'me' guys like Sherman who now have fame and glory. They need to deal with their problem lockerroom

archstanton543 · Feb 5, 2015

Ivan said:
I never knew that freedom of speech meant you have to talk?

Yeah, I'm not getting that tweet or why it was posted...Is it showing the ridiculousness of the tweeter or was it posted to make fun of Lynch? Freedom of Speech means you are free to say nothing as well as say whatever you want. The problem with Lynch is that he signed a contract in which his employer says he must be available for the media for a set amount of time. The contract doesn't say he has to say one word to them or, if he chooses to speak at all, what to say.

RedSleevesPinkStripes · Feb 5, 2015

http://q13fox.com/2015/02/04/must-r...the-new-england-patriots-from-a-seahawks-fan/

Why can't the Pats be as classy as those Seahawks??

Let me start this letter off by saying that I am not a Patriots a fan. I was rooting for the Seahawks during Superbowl 49. I was confident in my team and was just waiting for that 2nd ring to fall into our hands. The Superbowl was an exciting game to say the least. Your team played well and was able to push back our defense which many teams have not been able to do. Even though we fought our hardest and in those last seconds of the game it seemed as though we had the win in our grasp, you swooped in with an interception to clinch the game. I will admit I was extremely disappointed and crushed because it really looked like the win was ours yet it just slipped right through our fingers. Even though I was upset, I walked away having a lot of respect for your team and how well you played. I felt as though we played a team that was able to give us a run for our money and that we had to work hard to keep up with. I was never a fan of your team but I gained respect for it after the Superbowl.

Let me move on to the point of my letter. I am not unfamiliar with the trash talking that occurs between teams in competitive sports. It’s the ugly nature of the beast and for the most part it just comes with the territory. The excitement and pressure that comes along with such a high profile and competitive job is inevitably going to bring out what I’d like to call the green-eyed monster. People will bash you when you are successful and especially when your success has become a threat to their own. However, there is a line to this harmless fun that should not be crossed and I think your team crossed it with your behavior during your celebration parade. Flying off at the mouth during the intensity and high stress moments of a football game is one thing, but going out of your way to parade around in front of your fans holding disrespectful signs and t-shirts directed towards the opposing team is simply bad form. The spectacle that players on your team have created not only rubs salt into an already painful wound but it tells those around you that you have no respect for any other teams or their fans. You are telling the world that it’s ok to beat someone while their down and that when you win you should throw it in people’s faces.

I would think you would want to be spending your celebratory parade actually celebrating your Superbowl championship win instead of dwelling on the other team. Any respect I had for your team before this incident was quickly lost when I saw your arrogant and unprofessional behavior. Am I saying that the Seahawks have been perfect in this area? Absolutely not. But I can say without a shadow of a doubt that we have never taken things to the level you have chosen to and I honestly find it despicable. I would have to say that in this case, a sore winner is much worse than a sore loser. You are the Superbowl champions. Focus on that and be proud of yourselves for your hard work. You don’t need to demean other people to do that. All you are doing in the process is hurting the organization you represent and losing the respect of many potential fans around the world. When you win, win with dignity and class no matter what other teams may say and do. Be the team that everyone looks at with respect and admiration. The NFL is a great organization to be a part of and I hope that you will do it justice by acting like a team that deserves to win by not only your physical attributes and skill sets but by the quality of your character. Be a team that everyone else strives to be like and not one that others see and shake their heads in disappointment. In the end, it is just a game.

Sincerely,

Amanda from Tacoma, Washington

FourierSeries · Feb 5, 2015

Amanda from Tacoma, I've got two words for ya,

PATS16N0 · Feb 5, 2015

Ivan said:
I never knew that freedom of speech meant you have to talk?

I posted it because of how funny it is in its stupidity, not because I was endorsing it lol

shmessy · Feb 5, 2015

Brandon Bolden @BB_HulkSmash · 14m14 minutes ago
I apologize for holding up that t shirt. I have tons of respect for @MoneyLynch and his game. This was a childish and classless act by me

The Brandon Five · Feb 5, 2015

I remember seeing a "Sound FX" or "Mic'd Up" with Sherman shouting "I have never seen a QB who can hang with the LOB. I have never seen one!"

Well now you have.

SammyBlueCat · Feb 5, 2015

From ESPN:

mpc12pats (work)

Mike - a lot of chatter about how Seattle players are calling the Patriots players "classless" for antics at the victory parade. What ever happened to "To the victors go the spoils?" Seems like nothing but sour grapes to me. What's your take?

Mike Reiss

(12:35 PM)

Patriots followers have been in this position before; lose a heart-breaker in the Super Bowl. It's a sensitive spot to be and because of that I give the Seahawks' fans a pass on this one. I don't think this is the time to remind them that one of their players pretended to defecate on a football after a touchdown in the Super Bowl, another mocked Darrelle Revis into the television camera, and another basically started a mini-brawl at the end of the game. That, to me, would fall more into the category of "classless" than anything from the parade. A case could be made that the Patriots shouldn't go down to that level, and that would be fair too.

LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady · Feb 5, 2015

patsfanboy said:
The Lynch mocking didn't sit well with me, he didn't say anything to anyone.

That shirt was an accurate description of Lynch and was just fine IMO. I thought it was the best thing about the parade outside of Brady and his son. Lynch for the majority of the season was behaving like a b*** on a certain week of the month. If he's not mad about his contract, he's mad about Wilson not being "black enough" (according to reports) or he's mad about skittles. Forget him, I'm tired of his excuses, whining and bull. I think B*** Mode fits perfectly. The only thing I didn't like was Gronk. It was a bit much and kind of embarrassing and annoying, IMO. He could've been a bit more professional about the parade, he just looked like he was trying to live up to his reputation and he overdid it, he should've been more like Edelman, already buzzed but bearable.

PatriotReign said:
I don't have a problem with them trashing Sherman, but I found the mocking of Lynch in really poor taste. He didn't say or do anything to antagonize the team. Plus unlike many I have no problem with his handling of the scum in the media.

Brady did nothing to warrant such humiliation and shame from Sherman or the sports media who chose to laugh and rehash and cycle this story over and over until the following week. If it were their boy Peyton that crap never gets reported, in fact Sherman wouldn't have pulled that stunt. Seahawks deserve the trash talking directed at them. I'm angry that our RBs are apologizing for it.

TommyBrady12 said:
Did anyone see former Seahawk Jordan Babineaux on NFLN this morning? He was asked "Who has the better shot at going back to the super bowl next year, the Patriots or Seahawks?" He said Seahawks (which in itself is not a terrible answer as they are a good team) but then goes on to say that the dolphins and bills are catching up with patriots in the AFC lol. To me I think the Pats have a better shot simply because the AFC is not that great. Other than the Ravens, who else is there?

AFC is weak, but is the NFC really any better? I thought their playoff picture looked weaker than the AFC. A lot of teams in both divisions look good, but none look legit outside of New England, IMO--but I'm totally biased.

PatsFanSince74 said:
With all the crap the Pats have taken, I don't have a problem with a little trash talk back.

Sherman with his "2" "4" fingers routine when Revis was picked by the official and the receiver was left wide open for a TD was classless, so he had that poster coming...anybody know where I can get a copy?

And, the Legion of Boom has strutted enough that they have to be ready to take a little parody and trash talk back. What's the problem with that?

Lynch, however, goes out of his way not to talk to the media, so I'm not so sure about the "***** mode" poster, but I'm not coming down on our guys for doing it...they've put up with enough. Considering the things that have been said about the Pats, starting with idiot Luck's talk about feeling "deflated" after the game, I get the frustration that went into it.

I agree, but disagree about Lynch shirt. (See above response) I'm so tired of the whole "class" crap. Class is overrated and boring, being real is entertaining. Everyone likes to trash the Patriots because of "The Patriot Way" or the seemingly stuck up behavior. It's time for them to let loose and start talking some crap back. I wish this had happened against the Ravens and against the rest of those losers who continue to insist that the team is full of cheaters, overrated and crappy players.

PatriotsReign · Feb 5, 2015

One-Be-Lo said:
http://q13fox.com/2015/02/04/must-r...the-new-england-patriots-from-a-seahawks-fan/

Why can't the Pats be as classy as those Seahawks??

And the correct response to a letter like this is....who gives a shcitzkie?!!

Bella*chick · Feb 5, 2015

Please. No one cared at all when our fan base was dejected after 2007. The nation gleefully rubbed it in and so did the Giants, as I recall. So they can all pound sand.

PatsFanSince74 · Feb 5, 2015

LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady said:
That shirt was an accurate description of Lynch and was just fine IMO. I thought it was the best thing about the parade outside of Brady and his son. Lynch for the majority of the season was behaving like a b*** on a certain week of the month. If he's not mad about his contract, he's mad about Wilson not being "black enough" (according to reports) or he's mad about skittles. Forget him, I'm tired of his excuses, whining and bull. I think B*** Mode fits perfectly. The only thing I didn't like was Gronk. It was a bit much and kind of embarrassing and annoying, IMO. He could've been a bit more professional about the parade, he just looked like he was trying to live up to his reputation and he overdid it, he should've been more like Edelman, already buzzed but bearable.

Brady did nothing to warrant such humiliation and shame from Sherman or the sports media who chose to laugh and rehash and cycle this story over and over until the following week. If it were their boy Peyton that crap never gets reported, in fact Sherman wouldn't have pulled that stunt. Seahawks deserve the trash talking directed at them. I'm angry that our RBs are apologizing for it.

AFC is weak, but is the NFC really any better? I thought their playoff picture looked weaker than the AFC. A lot of teams in both divisions look good, but none look legit outside of New England, IMO--but I'm totally biased.

I agree, but disagree about Lynch shirt. (See above response) I'm so tired of the whole "class" crap. Class is overrated and boring, being real is entertaining. Everyone likes to trash the Patriots because of "The Patriot Way" or the seemingly stuck up behavior. It's time for them to let loose and start talking some crap back. I wish this had happened against the Ravens and against the rest of those losers who continue to insist that the team is full of cheaters, overrated and crappy players.

You know? You're right. I'd forgotten about his comments about Wilson. And, his performance during the media events before the SB was like a ***** diva. Who the hell does he think he is? He can't be bothered to answer questions so fans across the country, who ultimately pay his salary by buying the beer and pizza and cars the league advertises, can understand what he thinks about the game or his competitors?

**** him. **** them all. Being nice is not the way to go when everybody thinks the Pats are fair game for anything they want to say.

Snake Eyes · Feb 5, 2015

One-Be-Lo said:
http://q13fox.com/2015/02/04/must-r...the-new-england-patriots-from-a-seahawks-fan/

Why can't the Pats be as classy as those Seahawks??

You answered your own question, because they're The Patriots. I don't give a crap that other teams are classless ****heads, we should the Pats allow themselves to be dragged to that level?

I agree with everything she wrote. I absolutely LOVE Edelperson, I've been one of his most ardent supporters since he was a rookie, but I think he lowered himself with that Sherman sign business.

Myra Kraft would not have approved.

Double TE · Feb 5, 2015

patsfanboy said:
The Lynch mocking didn't sit well with me, he didn't say anything to anyone.

He only played so he wouldn't get fined

RedSleevesPinkStripes · Feb 5, 2015

Snake Eyes said:
You answered your own question, because they're The Patriots. I don't give a crap that other teams are classless ****heads, we should the Pats allow themselves to be dragged to that level?

I agree with everything she wrote. I absolutely LOVE Edelperson, I've been one of his most ardent supporters since he was a rookie, but I think he lowered himself with that Sherman sign business.

Myra Kraft would not have approved.

I disagree. I hate the whole "class" argument. It's so overplayed and really doesn't need to be harped on every time anyone does anything besides answer with PC BS. When someone deserves to be called out, I see no problem in doing so. Sherman made a fool of himself with the 2-4 garbage, Edelman just continued it. I didn't care for *****Mode but I feel like that was directed at the whole team rather than just lynch. A lot of crap is talked about the pats. If they want to fire back good for them. I think it's a big reason they're champs - this 14 squad had more bite than in years past...more balls, pun intended.

Edit- reading this thread I see I'm not alone, didn't mean to say the same things as others, I didn't read the thread before responding.

Mountain_Commando · Feb 5, 2015

PatriotsReign said:
Football players fight among themselves all the time. It's part of playing a savage sport where anger is a virtue. I only played in high school, but we still fought in practice a lot.

Having said that, some players are extreme. And it seems Edelman is extreme...expecially after hearing him tell everyone he loved them and telling Belichick that "I'd do anything for you coach (twice)".

If I ever had the privilege of meeting BB, I'd tell him I'D do anything for him 2 dozen times. And I'm not even someone he picked from the 7th round dustpan, and chiseled into an elite all-rounder millionaire NFL superstar household name SB champion.

TBR · Feb 5, 2015

Pot meet kettle

Galeb · Feb 5, 2015

PatriotsReign said:
The Patriots players and our fans don't owe anything to opposing fans. I don't even think we should give a crap how they "feel". This isn't game where everyone gets a trophy....and I like it that way.

What an interesting way to interpret my post. Completely wrong, but interesting nonetheless.

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