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The Real Patriots MVP: Mr. John Elway


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If it weren't for his "brilliant," "amazing," "aggressive" moves and his "win-now" philosophy which was praised by every mediot in the world, the Patriots never would have put together this team and reached the elusive goal.

It begins when Elway thought he'd be really awesome stealing away Wes Welker; I can't say Amendola was worth his contract either, but a couple of things happened: (1) Welker is essentially finished and has been for a long time, and (2) the Patriots thought they would hedge their bet by re-signing Edelman, who turned out to be by far and away the best of the three. Amendola did have a good impact in the playoffs and Super Bowl, and he caught the ball in clutch situations and was a better red zone threat than Welker. Clearly, as it stands right now, it goes (1) Edelman, (2) Amendola, and (3) Welker.

Fast forward to this offseason. The Patriots "missed" on Emmanuel Sanders, who the Broncos paid $6M a year. Sanders had a great year by the numbers but clearly faded as the season wore on; it didn't do too much for Manning in the playoffs having a speedy, undersized receiver bursting up the seem when he couldn't even throw it to him. The Patriots spent exactly 50% and got a tremendous receiver/blocker in LaFell, who despite not having a pro-bowl season by the numbers, was absolutely perfect in this offense. LaFell was another guy who made the Patriots much better near the goal line. I think Sanders would have been somewhat redundant in this offense as a shifty quick receiver, whereas LaFell complements it as a big, physical outside threat.

Of course, let's not forget Genius John, who suddenly doesn't appear to be so smart as he did when assembling his Fantasy Football Team, and his huge money deal to Aqib Talib. Talib is much like he was in New England, a guy who is sometimes a great player against outside receivers and other times unworthy of "elite cornerback" status. The Broncos fans this year have complained frequently that Talib is overpaid and did not bring what they thought he would. The coup d'etat is that by missing out to Elway, a day one gunslinger, Belichick didn't panic and instead landed the best cornerback in the game, bar none, in Darrelle Revis.

This Lombardi is extra shiny with the sweat and tears of John Elway, genius GM who undoubtedly propelled us to our fourth Super Bowl and received his proper preseason accolades. I was hoping that Kraft would hold up the Lombardi and proclaim "This one's for John!"
 
Ehh...... If you're looking at Denver for the Patriots MVP, the clear winner is Manning. Elway gave him a good enough team. Manning either got hurt or declined.

Personally, if I'm looking for a non-Patriots Patriots MVP, I'm going with a tie between Lovie Smith and John Idzik. The combination of Smith's obsession with the cover-2, and the incalculably bizarre decision of Idzik not to bring back Revis despite the desires of his HC (and the needs of his team), is why the Patriots have Revis.
 
That must be why he and Fox had a parting of ways. I don't see how hiring Kubiak is an upgrade over Fox.
 
Lovie is such an idiot for ditching one of the best players in the league in Revis because he wasn't worth the $ for his scheme. You adjust your scheme to fit your players not the other way around. One of the dumbest decisions anyone has ever made.
 
Man, you are 100% right. I don't think we would have won with Welker or Talib. Things just came together to put the pieces of this team in place. Really was a magical season.
 
"What wins Tony."

"MIKE! I want horses not ponies. They should be all in. OK!"
 
All that money bought him a team that admits they didn't want to play in Foxborough.

Good going, Mule Face!
 
I was reading through the "Why can't we beat Seattle like New England did?" thread and it's like they don't even realize how much our roster has been upgraded since we played them in the AFCCG two years ago. I bet if we went there next year we would win.
 
If it weren't for his "brilliant," "amazing," "aggressive" moves and his "win-now" philosophy which was praised by every mediot in the world, the Patriots never would have put together this team and reached the elusive goal.

It begins when Elway thought he'd be really awesome stealing away Wes Welker; I can't say Amendola was worth his contract either, but a couple of things happened: (1) Welker is essentially finished and has been for a long time, and (2) the Patriots thought they would hedge their bet by re-signing Edelman, who turned out to be by far and away the best of the three. Amendola did have a good impact in the playoffs and Super Bowl, and he caught the ball in clutch situations and was a better red zone threat than Welker. Clearly, as it stands right now, it goes (1) Edelman, (2) Amendola, and (3) Welker.

Fast forward to this offseason. The Patriots "missed" on Emmanuel Sanders, who the Broncos paid $6M a year. Sanders had a great year by the numbers but clearly faded as the season wore on; it didn't do too much for Manning in the playoffs having a speedy, undersized receiver bursting up the seem when he couldn't even throw it to him. The Patriots spent exactly 50% and got a tremendous receiver/blocker in LaFell, who despite not having a pro-bowl season by the numbers, was absolutely perfect in this offense. LaFell was another guy who made the Patriots much better near the goal line. I think Sanders would have been somewhat redundant in this offense as a shifty quick receiver, whereas LaFell complements it as a big, physical outside threat.

Of course, let's not forget Genius John, who suddenly doesn't appear to be so smart as he did when assembling his Fantasy Football Team, and his huge money deal to Aqib Talib. Talib is much like he was in New England, a guy who is sometimes a great player against outside receivers and other times unworthy of "elite cornerback" status. The Broncos fans this year have complained frequently that Talib is overpaid and did not bring what they thought he would. The coup d'etat is that by missing out to Elway, a day one gunslinger, Belichick didn't panic and instead landed the best cornerback in the game, bar none, in Darrelle Revis.

This Lombardi is extra shiny with the sweat and tears of John Elway, genius GM who undoubtedly propelled us to our fourth Super Bowl and received his proper preseason accolades. I was hoping that Kraft would hold up the Lombardi and proclaim "This one's for John!"


I personally think brady works slot recievers as good as anyone in the NFL. Wes Welker was a more effective weapon for Brady than for manning who while throws accurately the ball takes 5 more seconds to get their. I think Welker still has a year or 2 left but Edelman clearly replaced Welker and maybe even at a higher level. We will see going forward.
 
He may be the same poster. If you look at his history over there, he is acting like he is a Broncos fan, but he is really condemning them. Passive aggressive.

Strange...I just saw that post as well. Definitely wasn't me, though. Almost the exact same points in my post and the Broncos guy.
 
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