NFL.Com Grades And Scouting Reports Are In (Incomplete)

They are done by Lance Zierlin this year and whilst there's a lot already in, some significant prospects this board likes aren't done: Hardison, Poutasi, Smelter, Valles etc. However, there are a lot done - more than enough to be worth spending time browsing.

Top 10

1. Leonard Williams
2. Shane Ray
3. Amari Cooper
4. Brandon Scherff
5. Jameis Winston
6. Marcus Mariota
7. Todd Gurley
8. Melvin Gordon
9. TJ Clemmings
10. Dante fowler Jnr

Bear in mind, this is ordered by grade not to where prospects might get drafted.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/track...dt-by-position-input:lb/dt-by-college-input:8

Sooooo, I really pray Smelter doesn't start to gain traction in the pre-draft world. The less attention he gets, the better our chances are

manxman2601 said:

They are done by Lance Zierlin this year and whilst there's a lot already in, some significant prospects this board likes aren't done: Hardison, Poutasi, Smelter, Valles etc. However, there are a lot done - more than enough to be worth spending time browsing.

Top 10

1. Leonard Williams
2. Shane Ray
3. Amari Cooper
4. Brandon Scherff
5. Jameis Winston
6. Marcus Mariota
7. Todd Gurley
8. Melvin Gordon
9. TJ Clemmings
10. Dante fowler Jnr

Bear in mind, this is ordered by grade not to where prospects might get drafted.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/track...dt-by-position-input:lb/dt-by-college-input:8

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Thanks for posting this. Of interest to me:

12. Tevin Coleman (6.3)
13. Arik Amstead (6.3)
17. Jordan Phillips (6.2)
22. Malcolm Brown (6.1)
23. Eddie Goldman (6.1)

Some interesting grades:

Bud Dupree 5.9
Jake Fisher 5.7
Cam Erving 5.7
Maxx Williams 5.6
Devin Funchess 5.6
Sammie Coates 5.5
Ty Sambrailo 5.5
Mario Edwards 5.5
Gerod Holliman 5.5
Cody Prewitt 5.4
Owamagbe Odighizuwa 5.4
Tre McBride 5.2
Zach Hodges 5.1

That's interesting about Armstead. He's been really impressive against Arizona and Florida St. Started out the OSU game great and got worn down. They only rushed 3 on most pass attempts. And, got double-teamed on a lot of run plays. If you think he can play LDE in a 4-2-5, that makes him a valuable piece. Because, the dt's won't have to be as stout as VW has been. He'd allow you to stay in the nickel against many teams. I'm thinking the defense after VW and Ninko aren't here any longer. Whenever that happens.

Also of note they have Phillips above Goldman and Brown. Slightly. But, ahead of them none the less.
We could do something like

1. Armstead
2. Poutasi
3. CB - Hope Rollins slips. Could even move up. Because, we might get Armstead and Poutasi where our pick is.
3 Supple - Jarvis Harrison - OL - Double dipping
4 Jeff Heuerman - TE - OSU
4 Terry Williamjs - DT - ECU

Only thing not addressed is wr and rb. Go there with our 6th and 7th.

patsfaninpa said:

That's interesting about Armstead. He's been really impressive against Arizona and Florida St. Started out the OSU game great and got worn down. They only rushed 3 on most pass attempts. And, got double-teamed on a lot of run plays. If you think he can play LDE in a 4-2-5, that makes him a valuable piece. Because, the dt's won't have to be as stout as VW has been. He'd allow you to stay in the nickel against many teams. I'm thinking the defense after VW and Ninko aren't here any longer. Whenever that happens.

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Draft Breakdown has film of Armstead from the NCG:

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/arik-armstead-vs-ohio-state-2014/

I was impressed how low he plays for a 6'7" guy.

patsfaninpa said:

Also of note they have Phillips above Goldman and Brown. Slightly. But, ahead of them none the less.
We could do something like

1. Armstead
2. Poutasi
3. CB - Hope Rollins slips. Could even move up. Because, we might get Armstead and Poutasi where our pick is.
3 Supple - Jarvis Harrison - OL - Double dipping
4 Jeff Heuerman - TE - OSU
4 Terry Williamjs - DT - ECU

Only thing not addressed is wr and rb. Go there with our 6th and 7th.

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I'm not sure right now how I'd rank Armstead, Mario Edwards, and Marcus Hardison. All very intriguing guys. Edwards may be most athletic and versatile of the 3, but also the most inconsistent. Hardison plays exclusively at DE right now, but might have the most speed coming off the edge, and could be a huge draft value compared to the other 2. I agree with Manx - I don't understand why he's still so much under the radar.

I was shocked at how slow Armstead was at the snap when I finally got round to him. I like his strength and powerful hands but I don't think he's enough of a pass rush threat to be a first round pick. I didn't actively watch Buckner but he was certainly looking more impressive than Amsted.

manxman2601 said:

I was shocked at how slow Armstead was at the snap when I finally got round to him. I like his strength and powerful hands but I don't think he's enough of a pass rush threat to be a first round pick. I didn't actively watch Buckner but he was certainly looking more impressive than Amsted.

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I agree that Buckner is a different caliber prospect. I like Amstead, but I certainly wouldn't spend a 1st on him if I could get Edwards with our 2nd, or Hardison later on.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/lorenzo-mauldin?id=2552297

Interesting player comparison

hornetfb85 said:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/lorenzo-mauldin?id=2552297

Interesting player comparison

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Very nice find.

They compare McBride to LaFell. I want him based on that.

dliverey said:

They compare McBride to LaFell. I want him based on that.

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I don't see that comparison at all. LaFell is a split end, McBride is a flanker. Very different players IMO.

Unless they are talking about route running, hands, work ethic and desire. I have not watched McBride so I have no idea.

I'm not convinced of this conventional wisdom that La'El Collins can't play left tackle in the pros.

Get it shawtaay said:

I'm not convinced of this conventional wisdom that La'El Collins can't play left tackle in the pros.

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I think he can although he's not the conventional lengthy quick footed type. But once Collins blocks someone that person stays blocked.

patsfaninpa said:

Also of note they have Phillips above Goldman and Brown. Slightly. But, ahead of them none the less.
We could do something like

1. Armstead
2. Poutasi
3. CB - Hope Rollins slips. Could even move up. Because, we might get Armstead and Poutasi where our pick is.
3 Supple - Jarvis Harrison - OL - Double dipping
4 Jeff Heuerman - TE - OSU
4 Terry Williamjs - DT - ECU

Only thing not addressed is wr and rb...

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…and a pass-rushing DE, and a LB to replace Mayo (too expensive).

Also, I wonder why Nolan Nawrocki was replaced so soon after joining NFL.com when PFW expired.

captain stone said:

…and a pass-rushing DE, and a LB to replace Mayo (too expensive).

Also, I wonder why Nolan Nawrocki was replaced so soon after joining NFL.com when PFW expired.

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I think Mayo will come back at a reduced number. Like Wilfork did last year. He's coming off of a serious knee injury and other teams won't be throwing money his way. If he comes back, and I think he will. My idea would be to use Hightower or Collins as that edge-rusher in obvious passing downs. Sliding Armstead inside if he can handle it.

hornetfb85 said:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/lorenzo-mauldin?id=2552297

Interesting player comparison

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Found another one:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/hauoli-kikaha?id=2552292

hornetfb85 said:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/lorenzo-mauldin?id=2552297

Interesting player comparison

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Liked this comment by a scout on that report:

"He overcame a tough childhood and developed a mindset that nothing is going to stop him. He works his butt off and he wants to be great.

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That sure sounds like a BB guy. I think he's worth investigating more.

manxman2601 said:

Liked this comment by a scout on that report:



That sure sounds like a BB guy. I think he's worth investigating more.

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He has become one of my binkies. In the senior bowl he showed an ability to drop into zone coverage and made a play on a pass.

dliverey said:

He has become one of my binkies. In the senior bowl he showed an ability to drop into zone coverage and made a play on a pass.

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Watched his tape for the first time today and was impressed. Not convinced I'd want him before 64 because he is a tweener but like him as a sort of Umenyiora type guy that plays SLB in base, DE in sub.