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OMG ...... How much time will this leave for motion if the play clock runs while he plays signals for the blind? The refs should be put on notice not destroy any communications between the NFL and themselves and to write down verbal instructions.
 
Next thing you know they're going to announce Vince McMahon as the new head of refs
 
Next thing you know they're going to announce Vince McMahon as the new head of refs

Dude, he is the head of the league!
 
I have a feeling the refs will be taking their sweet ass time on this particular part, just to let the Seahawks do the 1+1 math in their heads and adjust accordingly.

Though, I agree with most of the guys here. I'll be surprised if we see this trick at all on Sunday. It has pretty much exhausted itself.

Actually "No".

Skree makes a nice point in post #9.
 
The Herald picked up this story... the Pats are just too smart for most.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...seahawks_notebook_pete_carroll_throws_flag_on

“We don’t want that to happen if we can help it, so we made a call in and asked about that,” Carroll said. “They came with a very clear response about having a new signal that designates when a player with an ineligible number is eligible — that’s the same — and when an eligible number is now ineligible, they’re now going to make a new declaration to the players on the field so they can clearly identify that.”

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Yeah , I am pretty sure you cannot just change rules on the fly... but who knows in this crazy league.

Maybe Pete thinks he is playing CalvinBall??
 
this trick works best when your using it the first time, two time is the max but in a third game no way.I wouldn't be surprise f they use this against us.
 
BB is already on to the next thing....always one step ahead...
 
All this commotion over a formation that we're not even going to use. Good for Carroll for trying to get out in front of it, though. If the roles were reversed, I would be disappointed in BB if he didn't do the same thing.
 
Blandino obviously realized that telling a team not to cover another player basically undoes the deceptive aspect of this. Vinovich apparently did that in the AFCG.

Can you imagine if the Colts tried to fool the Patriots, and the ref told the Patriots players, "Don't cover that guy!!"?

The media would have a bunch of stories about how the NFL is aiding the Patriots.
 
Doesn't matter I really didn't see NE using these plays in the SB. I dont see BB doing trick plays in this unless they are desperate which I dont think the will be ;).
 
Blandino obviously realized that telling a team not to cover another player basically undoes the deceptive aspect of this.

I think the bigger thing is that it is an outright WRONG thing to say. The ineligible man can take a lateral or handoff, so the defense may well want to cover him after all. It's not like the only thing he's allowed to do is block.
 
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I think the bigger thing is that it is an outright WRONG thing to say. The ineligible man can take a lateral or handoff, so they defense may well want to cover him after all. It's not like the only thing he's allowed to do is block.

So, BB is going to use the same formation, then lateral to Vereen?
 
So, BB is going to use the same formation, then lateral to Vereen?

Who knows? But it certainly would be legal. As would be Vereen throwing a pass after getting the lateral :)
 
I want this taking up as much of the Seahawks' brain space as possible.
 
BTW, here's Vinovich's telling of the ineligible stuff. It's from A**wipe King's column, which you can find for yourself. I won't sully this place with a link to it.

Office League Mouthpiece and the Omissioner's Suck Up Boy said:
In the middle of the third quarter, the bizarre New England formation occurred: Tight end Michael Hoomanawanui lined up at left tackle, eligible. Running back Shane Vereen reported on the field and said clearly to Vinovich: “I’m reporting INeligible. INeligible.”

“It obviously caught me off guard,” Vinovich said. “I’m not gonna say what the Ravens should or shouldn’t have done. I mean, the easiest thing [for them] to do would have been to call timeout and let them match up. Basically it was just a brilliant play on Bill Belichick’s part and it caught them off guard. That’s why you have to be able to think quickly. Not only did I say he’s not eligible, I said, ‘Do not cover 34 [Vereen].’ But the DBs were obviously confused. What’s going through my mind is, Can he do this legally? Was Vereen in the previous play? All these different things start going through my mind. Then I realize that going from eligible to ineligible, you don’t have to be out one play before. The other way, coming back ineligible to eligible, you have to be out of play. Now he can’t go back to eligible without going out for a play, which he did. Some of the stuff they throw at you, you just go, whoa. That’s the great part of officiating—it’s always changing. Someone’s gonna think of something different to do. But the play was legal, totally legal.”

Vinovich is aware that some critics—Harbaugh, for one, who thinks the Ravens weren’t given sufficient time to match up; and also Tony Dungy, who felt the same way—didn’t like New England being able to use that play. But he also knows on those three plays, the Ravens had at least seven seconds per play to adjust. So he’s sure he made the right call. “I don’t know how else we could have handled that,” he said. “You’re not going to put the umpire over the ball at that point. We told the Ravens the back was ineligible.”
 
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Though I believe Vinovich is actually wrong. I'm pretty sure the rule says the player needs to come out (or there to be a stoppage in play) for a player to change his eligibility status in either direction.
 
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