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You're drinking the koolaid. I guess that's just what people do now: Koolaid keg stands.

What is usually a relatively level-headed forum has suddenly gone to the kool aid chuggers in the past week or so.

Hope they're right.
 
1)I remember the safety and Fox clapping.
2)I remember Manning s first pick and Fox clapping.
3)I remember turning to my friends and asking them "does this guy know his coaching
the Broncos"?
 
What? lol

Where to begin...

You're drinking the koolaid. I guess that's just what people do now: Koolaid keg stands.

How is the Broncos 2013 regular season `arguably the best regular season` of any team in history?

Im a pats fan. Not a Broncos fan. I was just speaking about stats in the regular season. Guess I phrased it wrong. Ha
 
hunger.

one factor for the seahawks last year that helped them. the hunger to win their first one.
I don't think they're the team with as big a drive as last year. no matter what its difficult to repeat because hunger is a factor.
They don't have Harvin making those 2 or 3 electrix plays. THey don't have Golden Tate. And Malcolm Smith MVP. lets just say everything went right for them last year.

I'm fairly certain that NE will give them far more to worry about than last years bronco's
 
Simple we have Brady he alone makes the difference his team won't quit like Peytons team diD.
 
well, we have Tom Brady who has the most TD's and Wins for a QB in the post-season...

and the Broncos have Peyton Manning....the QB with the most 1 and dones in post season history!!

for as much talent that broncos team has/had they are as soft as a paper tissue
 
I honestly look at Brady's weapons last year. It was an honest to god miracle we even made it that far.

Edelman
Amendola
Collie
Thompkins
Hoomanauakdiw
Matthew Mulligan

WTH?! Thats the worst supporting cast in a conference, heck any playoff game ever in the history of football.

If not for edelman, I'd give the award to them. . But jabar Gaffney and rache caldwell I think were by far the worst group to ever suit up for a conference championship


Last year was pretty bad though, a close second fo sho
 
I actually have watched that game 3-4 times again. They lost that game because the Denver offense crapped the bed and they could not stop Wilson in the passing game. The Denver "D" did what we all want the pats to do this year: stop the run and make Wilson beat you throwing the ball. And you know what, he did. Simple as that. Wilson converted 3rd and 8 all game long. Wilson was very good in that game. Shaky in the beginning but solid later one.

Also, Manning played terrible. His throws were bad but his decision making was worse. He threw late and to the wrong person. In that game, I noticed he had Welker wide open for huge potential gains but threw underneath instead. Welker came to play, nobody else did. Indy and Seattle played the exact same defensive game against Manning and it worked.

You also notice that the Denver receivers did everything possible to avoid contact. They wanted no part of that game. The play calling of Denver did not help either. Those crossing routes about 5-6 yards off the line just set the Denver receivers up for big hits, which they took and took hard. It actually reminded me of the 2001 Rams game actually!

The Pats wil have to realize that they will be punched and they have to punch back.
 
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Omg that gif makes me die every time lol
 
1)I remember the safety and Fox clapping.
2)I remember Manning s first pick and Fox clapping.
3)I remember turning to my friends and asking them "does this guy know his coaching
the Broncos"?


After the Seahawks went up 22-0, there was a shot of a Denver player laughing on the side line with a coach. That told me everything.
 
What? lol

Where to begin...

You're drinking the koolaid. I guess that's just what people do now: Koolaid keg stands.

How is the Broncos 2013 regular season `arguably the best regular season` of any team in history? Because they put up 5 more passing touchdowns than the 2007 Patriots? You do realize that rules have changed the game drastically to favor offenses now, right? You don't even get two sentences into your post before losing credibility. How is a team that loses 3 games to postseason teams in the regular season `arguably having the best regular season ever`? Are you a Bronco homer or something?

I know Bronco fans are delusional, only watch Bronco games, and thus sound like morons any time they speak on anything NFL related. Maybe you're just confused.

The 2007 Patriots went undefeated in the regular season and shattered every offensive NFL record at a time when defensive backs could still smash defenseless receivers into retirement. If Randy Moss didn't have to concern himself with worry while crossing over the middle of the field, Tom Brady's Patriot offense would have thrown five billion touchdown passes that year.

The 2013 Denver Broncos were a sad, pathetic joke. They didn't "beat us handily" in the AFCCG - they faced a Patriot team missing its biggest offensive weapons, with nearly our entire starting defense on IR, coming off an off season so bad we had to sign Tebow just for the temporary training camp distraction.

Denver faced Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and the NE Patriots practice squad in the AFCCG, which sent a fraud to the Superbowl, and you saw the pathetic results of that.

The 2014 Patriots aren't frauds like the 2013 Broncos, and Brady is our quarterback, not the postseason sulker, Peyton Manning.

There is no comparison between these teams at all. One is battle hardened, having destroyed division leader after division leader in all kinds of adversity. The other was fools gold, stat-padding ******** that lost to the good teams it faced during the regular season, then coasted passed the lolChargers and an injury-ravaged Patriot squad for its Superbowl beatdown of epic lul proportion.

lol @ "arguably the greatest regular season ever"

lolololololololololololol.


Completely agree with all of this, but to be fair the Pats 2007 offense benefited from the over emphasis on PI and I rules too.. it's just gotten progressively worse since then hehe
 
Ugggh.

For some reason this is the first time I've thought about what we'll all have to endure, should the team not win on Sunday.

I think it was watching this .gif that brought it out in me.

Yea but you just have to believe in them. .. this is their destiny to win this one and cement their legacy, while giving a huge middle finger to all the haters who have taken their shots since 2007 and have tried to question their greatness and accomplishments. ..

This is the team to do it. .. fully healthy, key weapons on offense, a championship caliber defense with incredible flexibility and a top notch special teams unit.

They HAVE to win this game
 
What is usually a relatively level-headed forum has suddenly gone to the kool aid chuggers in the past week or so.

Hope they're right.

Maybe this is a cumulative comment, but what in this thread is kool-aid worthy?

They soft, we ain't.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Thomas/Decker didn't like to be touched and even their TE is more of a finesse player. They didn't have much of a running game without the threat of the pass, either. Of course, their QB is well known for being a control freak who doesn't react well when things are thrown off kilter.

Not that Denver wasn't supremely talented, but every Pats fan should know by now that talent alone is not enough. The Broncos could overwhelm a barren roster, but they weren't up to slinging rocks with an equal. FWIW, I said this early in the year as well. I thought Seattle would take them down on a neutral field even when Denver was putting up 50 a game.

They only had two real scrappers, Wes, who by then was a shell of himself, and Moreno who was too little to manufacture a rushing attack on his own. NE is far more capable of - and willing to - get their hands dirty.

If not for edelman, I'd give the award to them. . But jabar Gaffney and rache caldwell I think were by far the worst group to ever suit up for a conference championship

Last year was pretty bad though, a close second fo sho

At receiver, but 2006 still had Dan Graham and Ben Watson, pushing the group ever-so-slightly ahead. It's not a compliment to either squad when those two are the difference makers. :confused:
 
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I've always thought that even last year's Patriots team would have given Seattle a better game. They wouldn't have won (they were too hurt and that Seahawks team was ridiculous), but it would have been closer than 35 points, simply because our coach and our QB set a much tougher tone. When things got tough early, they wouldn't have folded like the Broncos did.

Now add to that team: Revis, Browner, Gronk, Wilfork, LaFell, Branch, an appropriately used Chung, and major improvements from Collins and Hightower. This team is MUCH better than that Broncos team was. You can have all the stats you want.
 
hunger.

one factor for the seahawks last year that helped them. the hunger to win their first one.
I don't think they're the team with as big a drive as last year. no matter what its difficult to repeat because hunger is a factor.
They don't have Harvin making those 2 or 3 electrix plays. THey don't have Golden Tate. And Malcolm Smith MVP. lets just say everything went right for them last year.

I'm fairly certain that NE will give them far more to worry about than last years bronco's

No one is talking about how much heart NE has right now.
 
I'm curious how you guys think we compare to the Broncos last year. The Broncos had arguably the best regular season of any team in history. They beat us pretty handily in the Afccg. Most people picked them to beat Seattle and then they got destroyed.

This years Seattle team is pretty much the same as last year. So how are we more likely to beat them? I would argue Brady is playing some of his smartest football of his career. I would also say our defense is better than last years Broncos team. And the addition of Blount has really opened up our offense when he gets rolling. I've just been getting excited because I think we are gonna win and it's not gonna be that close and that's what everyone thought about the Broncos last year. Thoughts?

In addition to what almost everyone else has said here, you can't compare teams like that. A team can look like a world-beater one week, then suck the next.

Seattle didn't make Denver snap the ball into the end zone for a safety.

Denver THIS year was much more talented at many levels than they were last year, and the Colts. the pansy-ass, Irsay-stoned Colts, buried them IN DENVER.

Denver played an incredibly easy schedule last year - the other thing that changed is htat the penalties that were called against people defending them in the regular season shut off in the Superbowl. The refs let them play, and Seattle beat the snot out of them.

I don't think Seattle is as good as they were last year, but they're still pretty damned good. They're also pretty damned lucky - Green Bay had them beaten in their own house...gigantic choke. If Green Bay had beaten Buffalo, I have no doubt that we'd be lining up against Aaron Rodgers on Sunday. Seattle would not have beaten the Packers in Green Bay. Not sure it would have been that close, honestly.

Seattle is still very good, though. There were three teams in the NFC this year better than anything the Pats had to beat in the AFC (with the possible exception of the Ravens, who, like Seattle, seem to morph when it's on the line - credit to both).

Also, Belichick should have been the coach of the year last year and Brady the MVP. That they got the Pats to the AFCCG is nothing short of astounding. We all knew that the Patriots would be better this year simply by getting healthy.

Add Revis, Browner, LaFell, Branch, Ayers, Stork, Chung, the emergence of Jamie Collins and Dont'e Hightower, the health of Gronkowski and Amendola (who could be an x-factor against Seattle), and the fact that there has been no drop-off in performance from the rest, and well...this Pats team is much better than last year's version. In fact, this particular Patriots' team might be the best of the Belichick era. Certainly the deepest.

Should be a great game.
 
There are a number of differences:
  • As Greg Bedard has said many times, Manning cannot handle it when conditions aren't perfect. You pressure him and take away his timing routes and he folds. Brady can be rattled, but he never collapses like Manning.
  • The Broncos were a soft finesse offense. No one comes up smaller in big games than Eric Decker. The Patriots are far from soft or finesse (at least when they want to be on the finesse part).
  • The Broncos would not run the ball. Knowshean Moreno had a good year last year, but they were a pass first team. In the Super Bowl last year, they rushed 14 times (Moreno only rushed 5 times) and that included one rush from Manning. The Pats will commit to run the ball. McDaniels does give up on the run at times, but the Broncos only rushed 4 times in the first half in the Super Bowl last year.
  • The Pats have a much better defense than the Broncos did last year.
  • The Pats have one of the best special teams units in the league. The Broncos gave up an 87 yard kick off return for TD to Percy Harvin who is no longer with the team.
  • The Seahawks defense and special teams scored 16 points in the Super Bowl last year. It is unlikely for that to happen again.
 
Peyton completed 70 percent of his passes and had a record number of completions yet they lost by 35 points which is scary
 
I've said this earlier. Start fast and whether the speed of their defense early. Get adjusted to their speed which is quite fast. Establish rhythm and tempo. Don't give them something early to knaw on.

We keep comparing this team to last years Broncos and many mention the early safety by Manning and his center. That goes two fold for us. 2010 Brady took the safety on their opening drive that very well may have cost them the game looking at the final score. They settled down after that play and the offense played well enough the rest of game to win but the defense let them down.

No doubt this team is better than that Broncos team and better than the 2010 team. Just execute on offense, stay balanced mistake free football, stop Lynch and Wilson from running the ball and let the CBs shut down the receivers and this game should be in the bag. Tall order but I think this team is capable of doing that.

In game adjustments should be the key. They will try to beat the Pats,with physicality and athletisism. That is is their game plan, it never changes it's a hybrid 43 slide and it doesn't have the interior pressure it had last year. The coaches know what they run, it's all there to game plan for. This is a classic matchup and it is going to be a "this is what we run. Beat it if you can."
 
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