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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Not necessarily. they could do this to discredit the patriots argument.Still this proves they have zero evidence of the Pats cheating. No need to go this route if they did.
I think Carnegie Mellon already did a good job of explaining the issue. And they were unbiased, not on the payroll of the Patriots or the NFL. I have yet to see anyone who conducted experiments, have the experiments come out in contradiction to the Patriots'/weather explanation.The fix is in.
Of course they'll hire a physicist from a New York university.
And what if he says this is all hogwash without performing any experimentation?
The investigation will claim that any prior reports that proved the Patriots claim as true were misguided.
This is a clear and strategic attempt at disseminating misinformation to weaken the Patriots defence.
Well played Goodell, Well played.
-Jamman
I think Carnegie Mellon already did a good job of explaining the issue. And they were unbiased, not on the payroll of the Patriots or the NFL. I have yet to see anyone who conducted experiments, have the experiments come out in contradiction to the Patriots'/weather explanation.
I guess I'm just concerned that a few seemingly credible physicists have so quickly dismissed that the notion that weather/ball prep can and will cause a loss of pressure. Shouldn't they know better. Dismissing it so rashly and being proven wrong is also a hit to ones credibility.Folks, this is great news. Don't worry about it being from NYC - scientists are unbiased and unlike the media, their reputations are at stake with their work.
Besides - I guarantee the physicists at Columbia come from all over the world. They could care less about Patriots vs. anybody.
Like many other physicists, they may make initial assumptions based on a cursory view of PV = nRT, but as the more robust calculations show, there is more going on in this case. And if they take an experimental approach, I expect we'll be vindicated.
In a vague and scientifically confounding news conference on Saturday, Bill Belichick, the Patriots’ coach, appeared to suggest that some mysterious element of preparing the balls for use in the game could provide an innocent explanation for the deflation based on simple physics.
Zajc said he believed there was little chance that atmospheric effects alone could account for the discrepancies in the football pressure.
Ughh, logical fallacy of false dilemma. Believing only two options are available. It's either "atmospheric effects alone" or manipulation.“I think it’s more likely than not that they were manipulated,” Zajc said.
“I think Belichick is better at keeping pressure on the passer than passing a physics test,” Kirshner said.
The Times, in a story published Tuesday that cited notes from an administrative manager, reported that a partner at the law firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton and Garrison made the call to the physics department Monday. Ted Wells, who along with NFL executive vice president Jeff Pash is leading the investigation, is co-chair of the litigation department at the law firm.
"He would like to consult with a physicist on matters relating to gas physics," the notes said, according to the newspaper, referring to the partner, Lorin L. Reisner, who initiated the contact with the Ivy League university.
Records obtained by the Times showed that Reisner also emailed Columbia's physics department.
"Just to confirm our call, we represent the N.F.L. in connection with the investigation into the footballs used during the A.F.C. championship game and would like to discuss engaging a professor of physics to consult on matters relating to gas physics and environmental impacts on inflated footballs," Reisner said. "Please let me know whether there is a Columbia professor who may be interested in and appropriate for this assignment."
The most important thing is to test everything experimentally! Do all the math you want but test it experimentally!