Toucher and Rich: Sources said the League approved under-inflated balls BEFORE GAME

Rich was just on the air and said that they had multiple sources that the Pats turned in the balls to the league prior to the game slightly under inflated and the refs approve them. So the refs didn't measure the balls.

He's doing a bad job explaining this..

That would be a game changer if true. I hope there's more to this.

Toucher is harping on "so they deliberately turned in under inflated balls?" Not the point. I'll bet the pats never measure the Psi before handing them in.

PatsSox363804 said:

He's doing a bad job explaining this..

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And Toucher is trying to turn this into cheating. The refs are responsible to make sure that it is inflated to the proper amount and fill them to the proper amount. Not the Pats.

PatsSox363804 said:

Toucher is harping on "so they deliberately turned in under inflated balls?" Not the point. I'll bet the pats never measure the Psi before handing them in.

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Toucher is being a moron. He is claiming this is worse that deflating them after they are tested by the refs. This is the same thing that Aaron Rodgers said he does. He claimed he tried to turn in over inflated balls to sneak by the refs. And the media said that was ok, but it is different than deflating them after they are measured.

It is ridiculous. If the Pats turned them in under inflated and the refs measured them with a gauge, they would have been declared under inflated and inflated to the proper PSI. No harm, no foul.

Cramden said:

That would be a game changer if true. I hope there's more to this.

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Not really sure what it changes..

Everything said by countless scientists and BB still is the main reason why the balls were closer to 11.5 than the 12.5 threshold.

If they let through a couple of balls at > 12 && < 12.5 it just gives even more credence to the weather being the culprit because now we are talking about a drop of less than 1 PSI.

Rob0729 said:

Toucher is being a moron. He is claiming this is worse that deflating them after they are tested by the refs. This is the same thing that Aaron Rodgers said he does. He claimed he tried to turn in over inflated balls to sneak by the refs. And the media said that was ok, but it is different than deflating them after they are measured.

It is ridiculous. If the Pats turned them in under inflated and the refs measured them with a gauge, they would have been declared under inflated and inflated to the proper PSI. No harm, no foul.

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Right, and it completely jives with what Belichick said, "we tell them to set them at 12.5." Sadly if this is true I'm sure the national reaction will be similar to Touchers

Rob0729 said:

Toucher is being a moron. He is claiming this is worse that deflating them after they are tested by the refs. This is the same thing that Aaron Rodgers said he does. He claimed he tried to turn in over inflated balls to sneak by the refs. And the media said that was ok, but it is different than deflating them after they are measured.

It is ridiculous. If the Pats turned them in under inflated and the refs measured them with a gauge, they would have been declared under inflated and inflated to the proper PSI. No harm, no foul.

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It's not only ridiculous, it is downright confusing and not worth my rapidly diminishing time, but my team is being slandered by its own league, FFS. What a world-class ****-up!

PatsSox363804 said:

Right, and it completely jives with what Belichick said, "we tell them to set them at 12.5." Sadly if this is true I'm sure the national reaction will be similar to Touchers

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But how is it worse that giving it to the refs at the proper PSI and then deflate them after the fact.

PatsSox363804 said:

Toucher is harping on "so they deliberately turned in under inflated balls?" Not the point. I'll bet the pats never measure the Psi before handing them in.

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Is he always that obtuse? Toucher is stupid. I have never stayed at home to listen to them. What a stupid human being.

Rich confirmed the rules are the refs are responsible for making sure the balls are the proper PSI and not the team.

Rob0729 said:

But how is it worse that giving it to the refs at the proper PSI and then deflate them after the fact.

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It's not, people are just dumb.

PatsSox363804 said:

It's not, people are just dumb.

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I agree with that and people want the Pats to be guilty.

One of these dopes is a Jest fan, I believe?? Anyone know which one?

This may be why the League is dragging this out and smearing the Patriots with leaks. They know the Pats did nothing wrong by the letter of the law, but it makes the League look bad because they didn't do the proper pregame inspection of the balls prior to the game.

I believe that BB said during his press briefing on Saturday that they gave the balls to the Officials for them to inflate to the proper pressure.

PatsFanSince74 said:

I believe that BB said during his press briefing on Saturday that they gave the balls to the Officials for them to inflate to the proper pressure.

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Agree, that's what I thought, also. But, at this point, I'm not sure anymore what I've heard, seen and/or read about this ****show.

Rob0729 said:

Rich was just on the air and said that they had multiple sources that the Pats turned in the balls to the league prior to the game slightly under inflated and the refs approve them. So the refs didn't measure the balls.

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This is what i've been saying all along. This is all on walt andwrson.

I guess that guy Sharks of Vegas is legit if this is true. He has been saying for almost a week the investigation is on the officials and not the Patriots.