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‏@neiltyson
For the Patriots to blame a change in temperature for 15% lower-pressures, requires balls to be inflated with 125-degree air.

Its not like we all say an example of this happening on youtube by a lab associated with Carnegie Mellon. They are rats backed into corners. NFL is desperately grasping at straws.
 
Here we go
‏@neiltyson
For the Patriots to blame a change in temperature for 15% lower-pressures, requires balls to be inflated with 125-degree air.

Hahaha.

Between Glazer and this tweet...

I guess they are reviving the old "ball attendant doctoring footballs in the sauna" scenario?
 
Take this for whatever it's worth


Neil deGrasse Tyson ‏@neiltyson 16m16 minutes ago
For the Patriots to blame a change in temperature for 15% lower-pressures, requires balls to be inflated with 125-degree air.

For a supposedly brilliant man, Tyson sure is an idiot. Between his misleading comments, and his flat out incorrect comments, how the hell does he have any credibility?*






*I'm not even talking about this particular tweet. I'm talking about him in general.
 
I mean Belichick actually had guys do the experiment. Typical NFL, trotting out the "big name scientists" who aren't doing the damn experiments to keep the story going. This is some WWE level crap Goodell is pulling.
 
LOL. Using the 15% number invalidates him from the onset.

Beat me to it. 15% was based on the 2 psi difference, which has never been confirmed. There are now just as many unconfirmed reports that it was 1 psi, as there are that it was 2.
 
For a supposedly brilliant man, Tyson sure is an idiot. Between his misleading comments, and his flat out incorrect comments, how the hell does he have any credibility?*






*I'm not even talking about this particular tweet. I'm talking about him in general.
He's drifted away from brilliance and more towards entertainer.
 
He's drifted away from brilliance and more towards entertainer.

What do you mean "drifted"? He's always been pretty insignificant as a scientist. His claim to fame has always been science popularization (which admittedly is not a bad thing).
 
For a supposedly brilliant man, Tyson sure is an idiot. Between his misleading comments, and his flat out incorrect comments, how the hell does he have any credibility?*






*I'm not even talking about this particular tweet. I'm talking about him in general.
He's a panderer to pop-culture. He's only better than Bill Nye in the sense that, you know, at least he actually is a real scientist.
 
This isn't EVER going away. Get used to it. It's out in the general non-football-watching public now, and the impressions are baked in. I hate to be so pessimistic, but it's not going away.

Earlier in the thread, I said this:
After a certain point, you can't undo what is done by the messaging. Deus can probably elaborate on this, since he's a lawyer.

My degrees are in journalism and writing. I got them back in the 80's. The world is a very different place now in terms of communication, and we have come to see that perception becomes reality.

Busy people, who are taking in way too much information to ever properly digest it, make up their minds and for many people, it's almost impossible to unmake those impressions.

It's very sad because reputations can be destroyed for no reason. Pound at a reputation long enough, and the people who have come to hate a person will not change their opinion even if you show them with indisputable evidence that every claim made against the person is simply false.

We see this every day in politics. We even see it in the big scientific issues of the day.

The league could come out and make a statements completely exonerating the Patriots and a substantial number of people will, years from now, still refer to this scandal as proof of a culture of cheating or a reason that Brady shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.

I mean, they tape other teams doing walk-throughs, right?

The league really screwed this up, and it's a one-way bottle.

Okay, so I'm watching "The Cycle" on MSNBC (I don't typically watch it, but it was on when I came down from my office). Toure is interviewing Bill Nye and Jordan Schultz of NBC Sports...

Toure introduces Nye by saying Belichick's explanation sounds "completely absurd, footballs spontaneously deflating..."

When Nye starts talking, the banner comes up "REPORTED 2 PSI LESS"

Some quotes from Nye:
"In 2006, Mr. Brady and one of the Mannings petitioned the league to let the visiting team inflate their own footballs."

He rolls his eyes and gives a "hmm" suspiciously...

"The guy who detected an inflated ball was not a referee. It was a defensive player, D'Qwell Jackson"
(You hear Toure saying "Yup!")

"He just caught the ball and he went, 'Wow, that didn't feel right."

Crystal Ball, one of hte panel, then says, "Bill, to that point, how much of an advantage is it to play with a squishier ball?"

And Nye launches into the remarkable study proving the Patriots don't fumble.

It went downhill from there, with the NBC Sports guy piling on, the hosts all laughing about it.

It's over. If the Pats have done nothing wrong, nothing short of an apology from the NFL would be fair, BUT EVEN THAT isn't going to repair this.

If this was a sting by a vengeful former Jet official and Irsay - again IF - they have damaged the sports and the Pats irreparably, at least for the next decade. The whole thing disgusts me, however it plays out.
 
LOL. Using the 15% number invalidates him from the onset.
why does it invalidate him? Help me understand the science. (not being a wise ass for a change)
 
Take this for whatever it's worth


Neil deGrasse Tyson ‏@neiltyson 16m16 minutes ago
For the Patriots to blame a change in temperature for 15% lower-pressures, requires balls to be inflated with 125-degree air.

it isn't worth anything. The pressure loss is based on absolute pressure not gauge. I'll keep the math simple

Pressure inside the ball is 12.5 + 14.7 = 27.2 psia
Pressure loss supposedly say 2 psi
Percent loss = 2/27.2 = 7.35%

he is probably near correct regarding a 15% loss of pressure
 
why does it invalidate him? Help me understand the science. (not being a wise ass for a change)
Because the likely difference is only about 7%, not 15%.
 
Poor kid. Dad probably knows Kraft from awhile back, got his son a job as a ball boy as a favor.

Kid does what he's told, now he's being set-up as a scapegoat, because the league is a shady joke of an organization.

If, and I say if, Kraft is throwing this kid under the bus to help his pal Roger Rabbit, than he has lost all my respect and hopefully the media finds this out.

So all its takes for you is for Glazer to start a rumor that someone in possession of the footballs walked somewhere to dismiss Belichick actually testing the footballs under the same conditions and showing that the result is lowered psi, right in the range the league leaks they were in? (Since we still do not know, not does Dean Blandino for one)
Hope you are never on my jury.
 


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