Twitter report: NFL investigation is more about NFL Officials, not Pats (updated)

Dr Pain said:

Sharks of Vegas just tweeted "Mike Kensil, remember that name guys......."

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I hope they are right. Do we know who Sharks of Vegas is/are and where they get their sources?

Fixit said:

I agree a zillion percent, minus the nut bets.

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Meh..no worries for me, already done my part on populating the planet....lol

People are caught up in a lot of irrelevant stuff. Parsing words like "inspect" from the basic NFL statement is a waste of time. Worrying about conspiracy theories is silly without more information. Raging at the media for its reporting is either ignorance or the inability to take what you have no problem seeing dished out, and it doesn't change a thing..


Edit: And once again, people show their silliness by disliking a post that should be completely non-controversial to anyone who can think remotely rationally.

billikens said:

I was just relating that movie to this scenario today! I was saying how they trashed Forest Whittaker's (the big football player at the high school) car and made it look like fans of the opposing team in the upcoming big game did it as a prank. Forrest Whittaker's character demolishes the other team, sacking the quarterback on every play he was so mad. I was saying how I hope this all being accused of cheating bullcrap would have the same effect on our team.

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I only remember the pool scene...and one other

ender24601 said:

I hope they are right. Do we know who Sharks of Vegas is/are and where they get their sources?

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Florio or Curran?? Considering Curran first brought this up 8 hours ago.

ender24601 said:

I hope they are right. Do we know who Sharks of Vegas is/are and where they get their sources?

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No but they have been pretty good so far

kennyb said:

...The fact that the balls were 11psi proves that they weren't tampered with and that they were 12.5. If true.

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No, it doesn't.

supafly said:

As of now, the NFL said on Friday that: "....Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game."

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Captain Cool said:

I posted this in another thread, but the "inspect" language is very vague. If they measured with a gauge to establish a baseline psi, why not be more specific. I think that they can't make the claim.

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I think they did the "confirming" without much "inspecting". Agree that these are just weasel words.

Deus Irae said:

No, it doesn't.

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Yes it does. Ideal gas law. That would stand up in a court of law.

The media deserve blame for not mentioning or realizing that balls deflate if internal temperatures drop. Law of physics.

kennyb said:

Yes it does. Ideal gas law. That would stand up in a court of law.

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No, it doesn't. You're confusing "potentially plausible" with "proof of innocence".

PatsWickedPissah said:

I only remember the pool scene...and one other

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Yeah, remember, Sean Penn says "we can fix it, my Dad's got an awesome set of tools."

Deus Irae said:

Raging at the media for its reporting is either ignorance or the inability to take what you have no problem seeing dished out, and it doesn't change a thing..

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Yes, Deus. We are just ignorant fanboys who are unable to take what we dish out while the media is just doing their job.

So should we apologize to the media for our overreactions now.. or later?

While I might agree with you anecdotally, now seems a strange time to take the side of the media over your fellow Patriot fans.

Deus Irae said:

No, it doesn't. You're confusing "potentially plausible" with "proof of innocence".

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A law of physics is not " potentially plausible". It doesn't work sometimes and not others. It's been proven. So I'm not confusing anything. It's not that pressures MIGHT fall. They will. They can't not fall.

I think you're confused by that.

VrabelJr said:

I'm so glad Football By Football finally chimed in. They have by far the best analysis.

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Chatham comes up with some glorious turns of phrase. Such as:

Matt Chatham said:

Roger Goodell likes to beat his chest about his role in protecting the integrity of the game. But based on his overall performance in his tenure as commissioner, I'd sooner put my life savings in the glove box of an unlocked car.

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Hey just throwing this out there, if it is the Jets behind all of this...plus the tampering charge that was filed with the league....wouldn't it be sweet to get 2 of their draft picks!

Won't happen, but in a perfect world it would...

As for the ball boy theory, first, if it was true, the investigation would be over by now. Second, I am going to guess that the first thing Belichick did Monday morning after getting to work was have all those equipment guys standing before his desk. I would not have wanted to be one of them, and if there was anything going on, I am going to guess they would not have withstood his withering anger. When Belichick says he investigated and they did nothing wrong, believe me he made damn sure in a way that probably spread fear thoughout the clubhouse. It would be nice, though, to have heard a little about that part of the process (after the officials give the balls back and during the game) that Belichick did not comment on. Were they all just exposed on the field where everyone could see?

supafly said:

Again, they've already confirmed that the balls were good by the refs prior to the game starting. Do they have official, scientific measurements? No. But they are going to claim that they inspected the balls, which also includes measuring them with a pressure gauge.

No one is going to suddenly admit that the refs didn't do their jobs, which include measuring the pressure of the balls. Otherwise, how do they know that they didn't start off a bit underinflated?

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Again...they have NOT confirmed that the balls were "good" by virtue of attesting to the actual psi readings. The NFL's statement has only used the "confirm language" to set a bit in everyone's brain that's designed to connect everyone to the standard, namely the 12.5 - 13.5 pressure range. I think it's pretty clear right now that there is no log (or official documentation) of any kind which describes the pressure readings taken on those 24 footballs submitted for inspection by the Patriots. There were none taken. Yes, you can argue that the NFL doesn't have to prove its point of contention...but given the unbelievable public hysteria that has ensued over the issue, I don't see how they'll be allowed to gloss over it...now that everyone better understands all the moving pieces. At some point (maybe right around Super Bowl Day?) the media will have turned its investigation towards the NFL (and maybe even the Colts) as the trail turns cold on the Patriots.

Essentially BB has put the NFL in a "Check" position...and if the Patriots are correct (and I'm 100% sure they've validated it internally) --> that nobody did anything to alter a football, then it could turn into a "Checkmate". At that point, there will be nowhere else to look other than the official, the NFL office, and the Colts.

Saying the ideal gas law is potentially plausible is like saying 1 plus 1 equals two is a strong possibility. It's possible. Potentially.
Only a confused person would say that.

Deus Irae said:

People are caught up in a lot of irrelevant stuff. Parsing words like "inspect" from the basic NFL statement is a waste of time.

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So you don't believe that the statement should have been as accurate as possible from the NFL after this crazy story blew up to epic proportions? I don't know, I just don't buy that and I think that they went with a softer wording because the refs probably performed the charmin test. I think that the baseline measurement is one of the most important parts of the investigation.